hi mark, am in a penthouse and I pay about €60 euro every two months for electric but that's when am not living there, when am over goes to about €100 euroevery 2months. I know you can get a card meter fitted I've ur there a lot it's with Eco tech that will be better I've ur renting out ur place, and for the water you should pay about €30 euro when you not there, and when u are about €60 euro 2-3months. Ricky