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30 Jun 2007 6:18 AM by mickmemate Star rating. 115 forum posts Send private message

Other article re. your flat to let at La Torre, Mike.

Property/House & Garden back print tell a friend
Judge orders seizure of council documents

By:
Daniel Vidal, thinkSPAINtoday

Torre Pacheco made it onto the national map of alleged property development-related fraud last week as a result of a joint investigation involving the Guardia Civil and San Javier court. Guardia Civil and court officers spent five hours poring over documents at the council building and left with a van packed with urbanisation dossiers.

According to insiders, the judicial investigation, which has not been declared secret, is based on allegations that the Town Hall has been granting favours to local construction companies and promoters, and stems from a complaint filed by a member of the public a few months ago with the public prosecution department of Murcia Superior Justice Tribunal. Proceedings started by chief prosecutor, Manuel López Bernal, led to a complaint filed with San Javier court, which is now being investigated by Judge Aránzazu Moreno.

To be exact, officers took away several boxes filled with dossiers of partial plans, land pooling, expropriations and even contractual documents dating from 2004 until the present. Council workers are reported to have cooperated fully with the Guardia Civil officers, and the mayor himself, Daniel García, claims to have offered to help. Judge Moreno is investigating the truth of allegations that council officers committed a number of offences including influence trafficking, prevarication, and even bribery related to the handling of various construction projects and in the resolution of urban development dossiers. The Guardia Civil is playing an active part in the investigation to the point of mounting surveillance on several politicians and businessmen implicated in the case.

In addition, the phones of some of the suspects have been tapped on orders of the investigating judge, according to sources close to the investigation, who also reveal that companies owned by relatives of some of the suspected councillors, that may have benefited from being awarded contracts, are also under investigation. The same sources also indicated that the Guardia Civil has been analysing thousands (maybe as many as 10,000) of conversations made during the last few months by those under investigation. These conversations were not just recorded by the court-authorised phone-taps, according to one suspect, who stated yesterday that he is convinced that the Guardia Civil had installed hidden microphones to find out with whom, and about what, he had been talking.

Regional PSOE spokesman, José Ramón Jara, denounced last year that the Town Hall does not govern Torre Pacheco, which he described as "captive." Jara pointed out that the mayor worked as a lawyer for companies owned by Polaris World founder, Facundo Armero, in whose favour two million square metres of land in the municipaltiy had been re-assigned.

For his part, the mayor of Torre Pacheco expressed his trust in "the impartiality of the Law," but questioned the the way the search and document seizure was undertaken last Tuesday. "One of the principles of penal law is that the person under investigation has the right to know why, and we don't yet know why we're being investigated. We also don't understand the indiscriminate request for information, which does not seem to correspond to any case in particular," said mayor García. The judiciary is investigating the truth of allegations that council officers committed a number of offences including influence trafficking, prevarication, and bribery related to alleged preferential treatment shown towards certain local construction and promotion companies based on a complaint filed by a private individual.

Polaris World in the spotlight
Several of the documents seized relate to construction empresario, Facudo Armero, the founder of Polaris World and for whom Daniel García worked as a lawyer before being elected mayor.

"My relationship with Facundo Armero is now like any other that may exist between a mayor and a construction company boss," explained Daniel García. "It is true that I provided legal services before entering the Town Hall, but my professional relationship with him was sporadic, like any other client, although, because the legal process is slow, some of the cases I was working on for him were not resolved until after I became mayor." The mayor also refuted claims that dossiers relating to Polaris World were given any kind of special treatment: "They were all resolved according to the law and the sanctions imposed have been paid."

Furthermore, García added that "I feel like I'm being treated like a 21st century Al Capone." The mayor estimates that, in total, nearly 150 dossiers have been confiscated, and insists that the priority for the council's legal department will be "to ensure that the documents are returned to the Town Hall as soon as possible." He also criticised the way the documents were seized, which, he believes, may invalidate the investigation.  


Friday, June 29, 2007





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06 Jul 2007 12:25 PM by GASMAN Star rating. 24 forum posts Send private message

Still trying to be positive, apparently we should be recieving a letter from Parador shortly updating us, but I can't see what information they can give us we don't already know.




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18 Jul 2007 6:16 PM by mickmemate Star rating. 115 forum posts Send private message

Anyone heard the rumour about tomorrow or Friday (19th/20th)?


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18 Jul 2007 6:18 PM by GASMAN Star rating. 24 forum posts Send private message

Heard no rumour but what have you heard..??


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18 Jul 2007 6:19 PM by KarenDavid Star rating in Berkshire and Vera P.... 122 forum posts Send private message

What's the rumour? We haven't heard anything. 

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18 Jul 2007 6:47 PM by mickmemate Star rating. 115 forum posts Send private message

Reps. from the Junta are paying the site a visit (as well as other places in Cuevas) on one of those days, and are expected to give the nod (or otherwise) soon after.


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18 Jul 2007 7:47 PM by KarenDavid Star rating in Berkshire and Vera P.... 122 forum posts Send private message

Oooh - that sounds promising :-)   If you hear anything else, let us know .  Cheers



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19 Jul 2007 1:31 PM by Jasp Star rating. 71 forum posts Send private message

be careful posting good news like that, the boo-boys will be upset.....


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19 Jul 2007 5:55 PM by Mikenmandy Star rating in Dewsbury, Yorkshire .... 232 forum posts Send private message

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I don't think there are that many people who don't think the site will eventually be completed. They just don't want to wait.


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19 Jul 2007 8:07 PM by lester Star rating. 13 forum posts Send private message

I agree with you Mikenmandy.While there has been a lot of confusion & uncertainty over the past 2 years it now seems that most of the Planners requirements have been met and approved..

Most people who have been involved in one way or another with this development now realise that we are almost at the green light  & 'final approval' will shortly be issued.I know we've said that before but I believe we can afford to be more confident now.

We have had a number of negative comments on a regular basis posted on this & other web sites,some from mischievious contributors & some clearly from worried people who were naturally very concerned.

Lets hope that over the next few days Junta will finally approve & we can look forward to Huma getting back on site.

Certainly any information  coming from Huma at the moment suggests that they too expect matters to be finalised very soon.




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29 Jul 2007 11:31 PM by goodyg Star rating. 11 forum posts Send private message

Hi

Just back from a hol staying at Mazarron Country Club.

We stayed in a bungalow and assume it will be similar to the Tarifa we have purchased on ACC.  Met some lovely people who shared the experience of Mararron and Huma.

We tried to find ACC but it has been 2yrs since our first visit and we couldnt find the site, (which was a little worrying).  My husband went to see the Co ordinator for Mazarron with a view to contacting Huma for an update, she advised us that we needed and appointment with Huma and his office was situated on Mazarron Country Club.  Humas assistant Claudia seemed very positive that the go ahead would be September, (I know she has to be and we have heard it all before), she gave us receipts for the monies Huma has received which is only 15% (Masa has been holding on the the other 35%, which has annoyed us somewhat).  She explained that the site would not be downsized at all, and that Huma would probably not be pushing too hard to the final stage payment when the development it finished due to the problems.  She advised that Huma may offer compensation.  All in all my husband came away with a positive feeling that it would all work - if we can just all hang on and stay positive.

Speaking to various locals at Mazarron I have found out that one lady put her money down in 2000 and 7 years on  no shops have been built, they only have a country club (which I thought seemed a bit dirty and dated), 3 tennis courts and a communal swimming pool which costs residents and visitors 4 euros each per visit. ( aparently the pool is not owned by residents it is owned by Country Club - this is also common with a few other developments). The residents are non too happy about this.

I saw an advert for the sale of the shop on the MCC TV station, so I presume once they have a buyer for the shop it will be built, as this is how it seems to work.

My husband has asked Claudia to find out if this is the case for ACC.

The golf course still isnt build,  it is still a piece of  waste land.  Apparently Huma never had planning permission for this. 

The Mazarron Country Club took Huma to court and won the case, and Huma has had to put  a bond to one side approx 2 million to  cover the cost of the Golf Course (I assume that they have permission now)  Huma has a time scale to build the course and if he doesnt the residents can take the money and get someone else to build this for them.

The front line Villas overlooking the course aparently have received some compensation which has been up to £10K

The are still running on building site facilities and therefore have not had to pay any maintenance fees yet.  They pay rates which is approx £130 per year (unsure if that is english or irish pounds).   Aparently the builders have changed since the development started and some of the villas were still being finished off.  Our Individual Pool was cleaned twice weekly and they charge 15 euros per week.  The lady that I spoke to said they used to have a bus that went to the beach but she was unsure if that was still running.

They have a security guard who regularly patrols the site.

Oh and I think when people are trying to get there money back, Huma is re directing them to Mazarron country club (so he is winning everyway) but aparently the resales on the development are approx £10K cheaper and are furnished and gardens finished.

I hope the info that I have shared has been helpful, we really enjoyed our stay at Mazarron Country club and can see that ACC will be much better but I bet it will be a number of years before the whole site is fully finished.  (assuming it ever gets started)

We are looking forward to this starting this year,  I am trying to find out which solicitor the MCC used the owners apparently  per house paid approx 100 euros then a final payment of approx 200 euros into a legal fund.

I agree that we stand as a community.

Gayle & Dave

Our tarifa should have been finished May 2007




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30 Jul 2007 10:33 AM by Philmel Star rating. 214 forum posts Send private message

goodyg

Thanks for sharing your information with us.

I really hope that the information that is being passed out to many people ON A REGULAR BASIS (it seems) regarding re start of building in Sept 07 on the deveopment is true and actually does happen. We have been hearing this for 2 years.

What is just not acceptable is that building stopped on ACC nearly 2 years ago !! So why is this issue not resolved ? 




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30 Jul 2007 3:03 PM by Roly2 Star rating in Almeria. 646 forum posts Send private message

And just a thought - those who want to get an idea of what life will be like in ACC once it is completed - try dipping into the discussion boards for MCC!!!! 

The recent post about MCC supports everything I suggested.  Prices are lower in some parts of  the region, and you are looking at anything up to 10 years before you get the facilities promised!!!   And 4 euros for a dip in the communal pool!  Seems a bit of a rip off to me.

The position with the additional facilities seems to be the same for any developer - we will have to wait until someone wants to take on the shops/bars/gym etc - it is just that a Country Club 3 miles or so outside of town actually needs those facilities to be comfortable.  

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30 Jul 2007 5:39 PM by KarenDavid Star rating in Berkshire and Vera P.... 122 forum posts Send private message

Thanks for all the information Goodyg - you had a busy time on your holiday but you got some useful information and tips.   You're right about standing as a community - the ACC owners musts stick together to get everything done to our satisfaction.    Good idea from Roly2 about looking at MCC's discussion boards.  I'll be having a look later myself.  Thanks again and keep positive everyone   

PS - for those of you that dont live in the UK - the sun has been shining ALL day today!   Maybe our summer is here - at last!  



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30 Jul 2007 6:10 PM by Mikenmandy Star rating in Dewsbury, Yorkshire .... 232 forum posts Send private message

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No doubt I'll get slated for saying this, but one of the reasons for pulling out of ACC was the state of MCC. It was not the major factor, we needed to see some return on our investment, but it was a contributing factor. Like Gayle & Dave we went and had a look at both ACC & MCC. We weren't impressed.

Yes,yes,yes, Mr Negative I know, but it seems some people don't want an honest opinion.

And yes I do still think ACC will be completed at some point.

1 - The amount of construction that has been completed

2 - The amount of plant left on site, which must have cost a bob or thousands for the last 2 years.

Regds

Mike




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01 Aug 2007 2:57 PM by middleage1 Star rating. 6 forum posts Send private message

Hi

Here is the latest news I have received

 
 
Today MRI have been advised that the developers for the Almanzora Country Club are now awaiting the approval of final documents from the Junta de Andalucia.
 
This instution now has a further four months to approve these, and following this work can commence.
 
MRI are due to be updated again on this situation in September, and please be assured that this will be forwarded to you immediately.
 
Kind regards,

 

 

Johanna Mooney
Regional Co-Ordinator
 
MRI Overseas Property



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01 Aug 2007 4:37 PM by Roly2 Star rating in Almeria. 646 forum posts Send private message

So does this mean the September date has now gone????

And presumably the 'institution' may not approve it!

Roly2




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01 Aug 2007 5:38 PM by rowlandsbb Star rating in Gloucestershire &Hue.... 780 forum posts Send private message

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Probably means that MRI do not know what is going on which probably does not surprise anyone 

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02 Aug 2007 1:57 PM by Truff Star rating. 46 forum posts Send private message

Brian  -  I agree that MRI have been mis-leading in the past so wondered what your own opinion on the current state of progress is? But appreciate you are probably no more informed than the rest of us

I understood that the paperwork  was submitted in April with a 5 month (max) period to formally approve (or otherwise) the plans for the development. We are now being told the Junta have a further 4 months to make a decision. 




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02 Aug 2007 2:10 PM by rowlandsbb Star rating in Gloucestershire &Hue.... 780 forum posts Send private message

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I have bought and I am also an agent [UK based] and my contacts in Spain [who are a medium size Spanish firm where the owner has also bought] told me last week that the Final Plans are with the Junta in Seville and that the approval is expeted in September 2007

Some buyers think Huma have just been stringing us along -I do not agree but think that they just accepted that politics got in the way and started the planning process again

Their approach in doing this has been professional and I think they will get the right result for the first phase of 2000 properties

Their marketing with clients has perhaps not been so good!

And next phases will follow

Very frustrating wait but we all sitting on a good profit   

If this development was dead we would all have had our money back a long time ago as Huma would not have wasted the money involved in the new planning process



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