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21 May 2008 9:00 AM by tricia lauren Star rating. 10 forum posts Send private message

KEEP THE GOOD NEWS COMING!!


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21 May 2008 7:14 PM by ROUGHDIAMOND Star rating in Bristol. 88 forum posts Send private message


Hi Guys,

I have just taken the following of groupotrampolin website, translation was best I could do:-


Official Communique

Yo, D. Antonio Martínez Trampolín group chairman, I call from here to any media to be afforded to convene a public debate between the chairman of Hon. Municipality of Rio de Campos D. Miguel Navarro, director general of urbanism D. Antonio Javier Navarro Corchón, spokesman for the PP said the council D. Miguel Prieto Buendía, if lends itself to it, SSD Jose Garcia Miñarro and of course myself, to clarify the situation, avoid the fallacies discharged into the matter and that people know the whole truth and true can draw conclusions about it.

As you can see, I do not hide nor I never hide, and I am ready to face all my clients to see that what I want is to build houses for everyone.
 
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lets see if anyone else wants to talk?????????????

regards
Brian granada 16c

 


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22 May 2008 5:34 PM by TVJ Star rating in Orpington, Kent. 76 forum posts Send private message

I received the below from TH.  Don't know if any of you are interested.

Tracy
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Hi there  Tracey ......just thought Id send this below that may be useful to know as its info I have seen from the spanish forum and there it has listed all the contact numbers and email address of those dept for the relevant parties involved in the farce in the ayuntamiento. There seem to be contact details for the hub of the people involved. It seems that those people on the furum are intending to use these details to make contact directly either by phoning or e-mailing.......this would help the council relise that the buyers want answers now if those that had bought were to communicate directly to them as well as the promotor..........

 
Usuario
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Feb 2008
Lugar: MURCIA
Mensajes: 12
COMUNICADO A ALBERTO

Amigo Alberto:

Muy bueno lo de tu comunicado. Como eres tan aficionado al foro, y a enviar cartas y burofax a Trampolín, te mando algunos teléfonos de interés de otras instituciones, por si quieres contactar con ellos. YA SE QUE TU SOLO QUIERES TU DINEROOO, pero convendras conmigo que tendras mas posibilidades de recuperarlo si desbloquean el proyecto y la empresa empieza a construir.

Si sigue bloqueado o bien lo tumban definitivamente, no se de donde va a sacar la empresa (o el ayuntamiento de Campos del Rio como responsable civil subsidiario, según la sentencia del otro dia) tu dinero y el de los demas.

968 903 000 psrm@psoe-regiondemurcia.com Sede del PSOE en Murcia: Puedes preguntar cuales son sus intenciones para con el proyecto de Trampolin Hills, y que pasa con el alcalde de Campos del Rio, que se esconde en el ayuntamiento para no asistir a un pleno extraordinario. Si esta recusado por tener intereses previos con la empresa ¿para que se presenta a Alcalde, sabiendo que existe un convenio urbanistico aprobado anteriormente, y cuyas ultimas modificaciones tendrían que ser ratificadas a lo largo de su legislatura?.

968 212 269 murcia@pp.es Sede del P.P. en Murcia: Puedes preguntar cuales son sus intenciones con el proyecto Trampolin en Campos del Rio, y que diferencias hay entre este, al que se oponen, y otros del Grupo Polaris con los que han estado de acuerdo. Por que su concejal Miguel Buendía Prieto, pese a tener litigios con la empresa y familiares con terrenos colindantes a los del Resort que han sido ofrecidos a esta NO SE ABSTIENE en la votación del pleno, permitiendo que esta salga adelante.

968 65 01 35 aytcampos@retemail.es Ayuntamiento de Campos del Rio: Puedes preguntar por que se niegan a realizar los trámites necesarios para aprobar las últimas modificaciones de un convenio urbanístico ya pactado y aprobado previamente por otra corporación anterior del mismo color político. También puedes preguntar si el alcalde y el concejal que se escaquearon el otro día del pleno, impidiendo que este se celebrara, y pregunta también si cuando presentaron su candidatura a la alcaldía lo hicieron pensando en los intereses del pueblo, o en los suyos propios, sabiendo como sabían que no podrían participar en la aprobación definitiva del proyecto de Trampolin, que llevaba ya varios años cursándose.


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22 May 2008 6:11 PM by tricia lauren Star rating. 10 forum posts Send private message

Maybe it would help if all us brit’s that speak Spanish phoned up theses numbers to put pressure on the town hall it could help it seems like that’s what the Spanish are doing. Fingers crossed!  



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22 May 2008 7:05 PM by dei Star rating. 23 forum posts Send private message

Thanks for the contact details Tracey. I for one will definately be contacting them. The main message of my e-mail  in Spansh, to the headquarters of those blocking the building works will start with the letter T and end in O and have ONT in the middle..heeeheee.There, that will be easy for them to read dont you think ? and rather polite considering. Failing that , it looks like copying and pasting what someone on the spanish forum has written by the side of the e-mail should be good enough for those who dont speak Spanish and I think would be the best option for me. Im told it looks like they are good questions to put to those that would read the e-mail as to why they are blocking the project and to what possible good would come of doing so.---or something to that affect 
Dont know if it will work but the little Spanish I have Im afraid I can only plagiarize at the moment..

oh well,lets see if they respond.?


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23 May 2008 10:06 AM by tricia lauren Star rating. 10 forum posts Send private message

968 903 000  the PSO headquarters in Murcia: You can ask what your intentions for the draft Trampolin Hills, and goes on with the mayor of Campos del Rio, which lies in the council not to attend a full special. If this be challenged by business interests prior to Do to be submitted to Mayor, knowing that there is an agreement previously approved urban and whose latest amendments should be ratified throughout his term?.

968 212 269  Headquarters P.P. Murcia: You can ask what are its intentions with the project Trampolin in Campos del Rio, and that there are differences between this, which are opposed, and others in the group with which Polaris have agreed. For his Buendía councilman Miguel Prieto, despite having disputes with the company and family with land adjacent to the Resort that have been offered this NOT abstain in the vote of the full, allowing the go ahead.

968 65 01 35 municipality of Campos del Rio: You can ask that they refuse to make suitable arrangements to approve the latest modifications to an agreement and urban agreed and approved in advance by another corporation earlier the same political hue. You can also ask whether the mayor and councilman who escaquearon the other day of full, preventing this should be held, and also wondered if when they presented their candidacy for mayor did so thinking of the interests of the people, or their own, knowing as they knew they could not participate in final approval of the draft Trampolin, carrying several years courses.



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23 May 2008 12:22 PM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

Please note that the text below was written by A Martinez (or his representative) on the Spanish forum. He was reacting to the understandable anger and impatience by the Spanish TH forum members. (I follow their forum on a daily basis)

Best wishes


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23 May 2008 9:45 PM by broadfield Star rating. 23 forum posts Send private message

Here is a Google translation of a new announcement on the Trampolin website, 23rd May

Yo, D. Antonio Martínez group chairman Trampolín, dated today May 23, 2008 at 19:05 I have instructed the law firm headed by D. Diego de Ramon Hernandez to draft and refine a criminal complaint against D. Miguel Romero Navarro, mayor of River Fields, because I believe this gentleman is acting in bad faith and without taking into account the huge size of outrage against more than 2,000 families.

That lawsuit will be brought by neglect of their duties taking the project nearly 11 months retained, and unfairly blocked, thus creating a damage worth about 75 million.

We proceed to seek personal responsibility for being the same vendor and liability for the administration, in this case the City of River Fields, this being a D. Mayor Miguel Romero Navarro President of the same.

It also requested relief annotations preventive embargo so that, somehow, we can amend this, so unfair problem, which I understand is solely responsible for the situation.


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24 May 2008 10:30 AM by GuntherP Star rating. 14 forum posts Send private message

Please, visit "La Verdad" website and read carefully:

http://www.laverdad.es/murcia/20080524/region/clientes-trampolin-hills-campos-20080524.html

And now, the end is near
And so I face the final curtain...



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24 May 2008 11:26 AM by TVJ Star rating in Orpington, Kent. 76 forum posts Send private message

Below is an article from the Costa Blanca News:

Deadlock at Trampolín Hills resort

Courts and regional government blame town hall for delay

By Nuria Pérez
A BID by Campos del Río town hall to allow building work to start at Trampolín Hills golf resort has been knocked backed by a judge and the regional department for public works.

As a result the scheme is in deadlock once again and buyers who have purchased properties still have no start date for the project.
The company had applied for planning permission to build 2,575 houses and a golf course in Campos del Río and started to sell properties off-plan in 2005.

But according to a decision by Murcia’s court for administrative and litigious affairs, recent changes to the resort plans should have been approved in a full council meeting – something which did not occur.
Lawyers acting for the regional government informed the Socialist-run town hall on May 9 that they had not followed the correct procedure.
Local Partido Popular (PP) leader Miguel Buendía said: “They knew they could not win so they didn’t call a meeting.”

Sr Buendía has five PP councillors – but the ruling Socialist party (PSOE) has only four councillors out of six allowed to vote as the mayor and councillor for town planning had sold properties for Trampolín Hills before being elected.

Sr Buendía stated that the PP is not against the scheme and said it could be approved if the mayor and the councillor resigned their posts.
He said: “They would be replaced by another two Socialist councillors who would be allowed to vote.

“The scheme would be approved by their votes because they have the majority.”

LIABILITY

The decision issued by the court states that the town hall could be liable in a hypothetical case of prejudice to other people.

According to the judge, the town hall has permitted building works and the sale of properties which have no licence.

A town hall source said the council was not liable because it cannot interfere in the property sales market and cannot prevent the company selling their products.

CB News tried to contact Trampolín Hills’ chief executive Juan Francisco Canales Gil, as well as Campos del Río’s mayor and councillor for town planning but they were not available for comment.

nperez@cbnews.es



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24 May 2008 12:04 PM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

Article from laverdad.es (spanish newspaper published early hours 24th May)



Customers Trampolín River Hills in Campos put the first complaints of fraud


The guarantees provided by the promoter for the money it has been delivered to account have no legal validity The complainants claim to be victims "of a hoax '


24.05.08 --
Ricardo Fernandez


The fear and concern extends to full speed among those who bought a house in Trampolín Hills Golf Resort Rio de Campos. The obvious difficulties it is encountering this development project, whose provisional approval is paralyzed for months by the inability of the municipal government team (PSO) to move ahead, have spread the suspicion that the resort houses and a field -2,800 Golf-might not ever be built, and in that position, are dozens and clients who are seeking to recover the money they handed over to the reserve account for a home. With the unpleasant surprise in many cases, according to The Truth has been found not only real estate company that is severely hampering them to reimburse the money, but also the vast majority of the guarantees provided by the promoter do not have any legal validity.

The law requires, since 1968, sponsoring undertaking any construction or amounts received on account of planned housing units, is required to substantiate these amounts through bank guarantee or insurance contract with an entity authorized to operate in Spain. In the case of Trampolín Hills Golf Resort, in some cases buyers have not received an endorsement and in other cases the guarantee up to the Swiss insurer finantial Corporation LTD, which is not authorized to act in Spain, or by signing Solera The Trampolín , Nor any validity would not be a bank or an insurer authorized by the Directorate General of Insurance.

"Some do not requested"

The lawyer Diego de Ramon, who represents the interests of Trampolín Hills, has acknowledged in conversation with The Truth that some buyers, mainly Spaniards, not-called collateral is the company which has to deliver so-bound, and that which were delivered correspond to the aforementioned Swiss finantial Corporation-invalid-and only a small portion (up to cover about six million) are backed by La Caixa, so that they themselves would be perfectly valid.

According acknowledged a few days ago the representative of Trampolín Hills Juan Francisco Canales, a significant percentage of the planned 2,800 homes are already sold, why the company has received some 50 million euros (about 8,300 million pesetas) in deliveries to account .

The main problem involved not having a valid guarantee is that if urbanization is not built, or whether buyers believed that the company has failed to meet the deadlines or has not respected the contract, they can not execute these guarantees and automatically retrieve your money, with 6% annual interest besides establishing the Law 57/1968.

It would then forced to act against the construction company and against their heritage and their owners to try to recover the investment.

If it is true, as the signature itself, which La Caixa endorses only about 6 million, the remaining 44 million would not be guaranteed according to law.

They feel cheated

Under these circumstances-with the project stalled for several months, with the company refusing to terminate contracts and return the money received on account and with few guarantees that mostly appear to be a dead letter, some buyers have already begun introducing the first by fraud allegations before the courts.

In these complaints-this newspaper is in possession of documents that are supportive evidence -, it is stated that those responsible for Trampolín Hills Golf Resort have breached a legal obligation to give guarantees valid, who refuse to return the money to account and who are considered "cheated".

In one of the complaints, filed by attorney Joaquin Guzman against Trampolín and its president, Antonio Martínez, explained that "the allegations, which operates across societies to evade personal responsibility, he used deception to get enough displacement heritage, and convinced that the complainants, who needed a home, to surrender amounts to the same account, making them believe they were legally guaranteed, despite record that the alleged guarantee that delivered lacked any value in getting this maneuver collect large quantities money. "

The complainants go beyond pointing out in his letter that "we have reason to suspect that the intention of the person accused is not doing the work and keep the amounts received. And added that "our alarm has been increased to check on various Internet forums that we are many buyers in good faith that we are experiencing what seems like a real estate scam."

End of judicial complaint stating that "denounced a plan carefully designed to achieve illegal goals, and offered some homes with an attractive value for money, and gave image solvency, taking advantage of the housing needs of those affected and good witness the same as in the first instance, had no reason to believe that they would become victims of a scam. "

Joaquin Guzman believes is time for 'buyers act united in defending their rights, both for the case that the works fail to do so or not completed within the agreed period, as to require termination of the contract or providing a guarantee adjusted to law ".

Resolutions of contract

This is the case of lawyer Jose Antonio Madrid, Valdes Albistur Attorneys office, confirming that takes months asking for guarantees with legal validity to the company, having received the silent response, and has initiated several cases of customers who have already applied for termination of the contract and the refund of money on account.

Madrid advanced that these customers have already pushed him to file a complaint through criminal, or a complaint, and that is expected to have read it and brought along the next  week

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24 May 2008 12:46 PM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

The sad thing is that the Mayor has still not voted (after 7 days) and doesnt look like he will. Maybe he knows he will be up for investigation if he does due to the fact he  made 200,000  Euros (allegedly) from commission paid to him for selling properties on TH.

Unfortunately political corruption and political infighting being a common problem in Spain.

Lets hope the Mayor and councilor not eligible to vote will resign and make way for a new mayor and councillor with no links with TH, who will then be able to vote in favour and therefore gain the approval for the build.

Best Wishes
Jackie


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24 May 2008 2:31 PM by murciabhoy Star rating. 88 forum posts Send private message

we are all doomed !!!!!!!! 

they tell me there is a waiting list fore the Erskine Bridge so we can jump off.

I


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24 May 2008 2:31 PM by murciabhoy Star rating. 88 forum posts Send private message

we are all doomed !!!!!!!! 

they tell me there is a waiting list fore the Erskine Bridge so we can jump off.

I have


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24 May 2008 2:31 PM by murciabhoy Star rating. 88 forum posts Send private message

we are all doomed !!!!!!!! 

they tell me there is a waiting list fore the Erskine Bridge so we can jump off.

I have started


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24 May 2008 2:31 PM by murciabhoy Star rating. 88 forum posts Send private message

we are all doomed !!!!!!!! 

they tell me there is a waiting list fore the Erskine Bridge so we can jump off.

I have started the process to exercise my guarantee. For what it is worth.




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24 May 2008 6:36 PM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

Murcia boy,

there are two solicitors mentioned below in the newspaper articles, First thing Monday you need to get in contact with them (not bank holiday in Spain) and get advice, one way or another, the obvious is to sue for breach of  contract.  You need to think logically now (not having a go, by the way)

Best wishes
Jackie




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24 May 2008 6:42 PM by juliet454 Star rating. 99 forum posts Send private message

Hi Jackie and other TH buyers,

Are you saying you are giving up now after such a long wait?  can you advise what you intend to do and perhaps give others some hope of which direction you are taking with this.

Thanks

Chris
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24 May 2008 7:09 PM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

Hi Chris and other on T\h and other developments.

I personally feel there is still a chance of this Mayor resigning (there is too much and too many people against him now)

However I myself have received advice from a Lawyer, which is in the process of firstly asking for the money back ( which I dont think will achieve anything) if they do not reply within 7 days then the solicitors are going to take court action against the developers for breach of contract, I have no guarantee only a company guarantee. If you have a bank guarantee from La Caixa then you are probably safe.
Not sure about other guarantors tho'.??

Has anyone else acted against the developers ?

We should now all act together and try every avenue possible to either have the development built or get our money back! including political pressure on our own governements, including getting press coverage for this fiasco of what is laughably called trampolin hills.


Best Wishes
Jackie









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25 May 2008 10:20 AM by amga2 Star rating in Murcia. 15 forum posts Send private message

The head office at Tramoplin Hills has asked that the following message be put to all those concerned in the project of Trampolin Hills:



Please be aware that Antonio and the rest of Trampolin Hills are not cons or running away with everyones money as certain have liked to imply. There is no con or scam because he has not allowed so far to build. Its that still has not been given the opportunity......and that if the licenses were given 3 months ago then now there would have been 200 homes constructed

We thankyou for your continuing support and we hope to have more news for you all in the following week.



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