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20 Apr 2012 9:39 AM:

Ah well, rant over.  I do like the fact that Spain is relaxed and old fashioned in many ways and have no wish for it to turn into mini-England. 

I do sometimes feel though like the little man gets trampled on by businesses.  I know there´s no excuse in today´s day and age for computer systems to halt banking for people in this way - it´s just lack of care and proper preparation.  I feel rally sorry for the staff that they obviously didn´t train.  They must have known a good portion of customers would be thrown into problems and I can´t see how appropriate measures were taken to avoid it.

I have 800 customers, rather than 800,000 and just about manage to survive in the recession.  That said, if i change even something small I make really sure everyone knows and the new system is tested carefully before we implement it,.  Can´t see why they didn´t have the time / money and care to do that.



Thread: Bancaja merger with Bankia....the customer´s nightmare

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19 Apr 2012 11:20 AM:

In response to you all, we did recieve a message about changing our account codes, which we did do in advance.  In fact for business customers the new codes have been in effect for a month. Incidentally, we discovered these new codes when we were locked out of the account so there was no warning the first time they changed it either. 

However, the information was changed again on 6th April for businesses and we had a completely new access code with no warning at all. 

I know some people (especially those with personal accounts) have been fine, but my business account is 12 days into the change and I can´t make transfers except by going into then bank, queueing for a VERY long time and then being charged extra for the priveledge.

I went in yesterday to make 3 transfers and by the third one, the system in the bank had crashed and they told me to come back tomorrow to do the third transfer becaue they could not complete it.

We are on our third digital signature. None have worked.  If we try and make a transfer online it crashes.  If you call the support number it either rings out or places you on hold and then hangs up on you.  I don´t think they can cope.

I have experienced bank mergers before - nothing like this has ever happenned. 

I have emailed all the people we work with to let them know our IBAN has changed, and most of them are based in the UK and can´t access their account at all nor get through to anyone for help.  It´s left a lot of people in dire circumstances

Incidentally, I also feel extremely sorry for the frontline stafff, which is why the rant was here and not in the bank


 


This message was last edited by sara23 on 19/04/2012.
Thread: Bancaja merger with Bankia....the customer´s nightmare

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17 Apr 2012 11:17 PM:

I own a medium sized business in Spain and have always used Bancaja.  They recently mergered with Bankia.

On 6th April, we went to our online banking to discover that the website had changed to Bankia, and our banking codes to access banking did not work anymore.   No notice at all that this would happen. You just had to wait until 5 days later when the bank re-opened on 10th April after the Easter holidays to access your account.  Very disruptive and embarrassing as we were forced to pay many of our suppliers late.
 
On 10th April  when the bank finally re-opened, we queued for hours to see someone but couldn’t get in the door, such was the chaos from all the punters in the same dreadful boat. We could not reach anyone on the helpline and still can´t a week later. 
 
On 11th April, we finally managed to make a few transfers in the bank which were extremely urgent. We were provided with new bank codes to access our online banking. However, internet banking doesn´t actually work. If we try and use it, it crashes. We have been to the bank every day since, always waiting for a long time, and no one can help us. We cannot get through on the customer service telephone number.  We are told we can come into the bank every day and do our transfers in person, but first of all this means queing for hours to get it done, and second of all they wnat to charge us extra for the priveledge!
 
 We were also told our bank account numbers had changed with no notification, so all the customers trying to pay us would have the payments refused.  Very embarrassing and unprofessional.  I do not understand why we were not told our bank account number was changing. We send hundreds of customers our payment details every week and now they have all gone out with the wrong information!!!   
 
It has been 10 days and we cannot properly access our bank account or our funds and we have suferred a great deal of embarrassment, hassle and inconvenience. We cannot pay our suppliers on time and this has caused problems for them as they cannot pay their own bills. It´s a complete nightmare. 
 
We do not understand why Bankia did not contact the Bancaja customers to let them know that their internet login codes would not work, and provide them with new login codes before the change was made.  they would have known well in advance and it seems like a total disregard for their customers to cut them off for days on end without access to their funds.
 
We are very unhappy that Bankia did not write to the Bancaja customers and let them know that their bank account details had changed so they could ensure their own customers were notified. 
 
We are also very unhappy that the changes were made right before the bank was closed for 5 days – taking away all possibility for customers to get help when they needed it.
 
We know numerous private individuals who can’t access their money, can’t pay their bills and can´t get into their online banking. This has disrupted my business, caused me to lose customers and wasted days and days of my time. 
 
Is there any mechanism existing in Spain to prevent banks from treating their customers this way?  Surely you have a right to access your own money?


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