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Dear readers,
From White Baos Abogados we would like to inform you that we have presented recently the first class actions against BANCO POPULAR in relation with the HUMA MEDITERRANEO'S development in Almanzora Country Club, being a NO WIN NO FEES action.
We think that in about 2 months, we will be able to present the second one against BANCO POPULAR, for the clients who are now trying to put all their documents in place.
We are preparing also another legal claim against CAM BANK, for the client who paid their money into CAM BANK, as per the wording of their contracts with HUMA.
We know about the good work done also by other lawyers who are trying to help the consumers-buyers affected in this complex.
We really hope that the court will rule in favor of consumers, base on the law 57/68 and the encouraging last precedents from several courts all over the Spainm including the Provincial Audience of Murcia.
All the best
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Been here before, don't count your chickens...........
I've lost all trust in Spain...period, developers, builders, estate agents, solicitors, the legal system, everything.
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I know what you mean but this is the first time I've had a slight glimmer of hope. The only thing I can gaurantee is that if I didn't do anything then I would definately not get my money back so this is my last chance. There has been other cases were the bank has lost and been forced to pay the purchasors their lost money so I'm hoping we are as lucky.
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After the hard work, we, White Baos Lawyers have won the first class action against banco popular for the complex Almanzora Country Club from HUMA MEDITERRANEO, for several British families. This was done on a no win no fee basis.
We have received the court order yesterday night.
It has been really nice to be able to help people who have lost their savings, and to get for them a court order that says, that although they do not have a bank guarantee, the developer and the bank cannot just ignore their responsibility towards them, as consumers. This is, as far as we are aware, the first Class action against HUMA and Banco Popular that is successful and we are really proud about it, and happy for you. We would like also to thank everyone who trusted White Baos lawyers.
If any of you are in the same situation with HUMA and the banks, you must know that there is always hope and you should fight for your rights. If you want, we can assist you.
Best regards, Carlos Baos
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Its great that you have won the case but has anyone actually had money returned????
The bottom line is, other people have won court cases but no one in Spain seems to do anything more, will anyone who gets any money following this court order post on here how much they have had returned???
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I don't have a BG either so am in the same position as many. The bank can defer, appeal etc and it could go on for a while yet. Nobody on ACC has ever received a penny without a BG as far as far as I know. I will be keeping a close eye on developments but will not join a sole or class action until I see a cheque in somebody's hand. The no win no fee deal as I understand it is that you would receive your full monies back and your lawyer receives the interest element that you are entitled to assuming the court awards it. There are at least 3 BG class actions currently being processed by different lawyers for Huma and the various banks so it will also depend on which bank you have paid to. I have heard that Banco Popular are resisting the most as they presumably have the largest potential payment. Best of luck to us all
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Dont be taken in by "we won the case" of couse you will win you are in the right......but the banks will appeal..the WONT pay out, just becouse you won the case and the court wont force them.to pay you.......
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Jackb, I disagree. Once you win, even if the bank appeals, you can execute the first instance judgment provisionally and get the money without any guarantee from your part.
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We can't give names or details about our clients to third parties. It's absolutely forbidden by the Spanish LOPD (the Law for Personal Details Protection).
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Actually not true that you cannot publish customer refferences or make them available for a refference even publish their details on your website
All you have to do is to obtain their permission in writing to do this and of course happy customers are happy to do this and share their success, my customers allow me to use them as refferences for my services all of the time, very common practice
Also you are allowed to puublish a copy of the judgement in favour of the clients because these court records are in the public domain
_______________________ Roy Howitt
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It's absolutely true we can't give names or details about clients.
Of course, if they permit, we can, but not without previous and written permission fron him/her.
On top, the rule 21.2 of the Legal Statute of the Advocay forbids to make reference to clients without their authorization.
Regardless, some of our happy clients write in this and other forums. If you should have interest, just visit the threads of Santa Ana del Monte, for example.
About the copies of the judgments, I can only give copies hiding all the data that could reveal our clients identity (unless express and written authorisation from them)
_______________________ E. Lucas
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This forum isn't Santa Ana but is a different development with different facts and circumstances so there is no comparison between the 2 developments that should be drawn
The question asked was name one person that had won their case and received miney and your excuses regarding the clinet confidentially really don't stand up here, I know that if I had received money I would be happy to help the lawyer with a refference and as you quite rightly say you can do this with permission, so why don't you do this to get more business
I also know that the court judgements are on public record, anybody can see them and get copies so you actually don't need the permission of the people on the judgements, this is a PUBLIC record, it has to be by law
Supply me with the court and case numbers and I will prove it to the people on this forum
_______________________ Roy Howitt
Independent Property Consultant
www.sonrisaproperties.com
www.snaggingspain.com
WE CAN FIND YOUR DREAM HOME
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I don't know how far you know Santa Ana, but is very, very similar to ACC. A development that never was built, buyers that payed high amounts, money that disappeared to pay another expenses, the company into an Insolvency proccess, just a little part of the payments guaranteed with BGs... tell me the deep differences. I see same facts, same circumstances.
On the other hand, I'm not marketing any service. I just made a post to invite people to join the action. I'm not asking my clients for permission to name them because WE DON'T WORK LIKE THAT. We are not a Firm placing advertisements, We don't work under a "no win no fees", and we are not going to get that way. And we've explained our reasons.
You and jackb can go to other Firms that name their clients, of course, but also respect if we think our profession is much more serious than big advertisings or a bargaining policies.
You can visit our websites lucasasociados.es or lucasasociados.com and see who we are. That's our communication policy. And sometimes participate in the forums not to market but to help people know how things are running, and because we know there's a poor image of Spain and Spanish solicitors just because all those who didin't advice properly in the real estate boom, and want to help to clean it.
Some of our clients place references because they want. We don't ask them to do it. If they do, we are happy, but that's all.
About the judgments, not all of them are public. Some are in the Courts General Counsel webpage (www.poderjudicial.es) where you will be able to find some.
There's also specific databases for professionals where they put the judgments hiding the names of the parties or using initials.
But a solicitor can't go deleivering copies of the judgments obtained to anyone.
If you want, I can give references of many judgments. By PM. You can try to get a copy in the Courts.
_______________________ E. Lucas
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LUCAS I cannot believe how you can honestly say that you or other lawyers are not using this forum to market their services, you only have to read the topic subject on this thread and all of the other that your company and another organisation post here to know that is exactly what is happening so I would rather you were honest
Big differencies between the 2 developments, different contracts, banks and developer, I cam give you examples of this if you want
If somebody does a good job then absolutely they should use a forum to do this if it means that there is a real benefit to the customer and this of course works the other way if they don't
It is unfortunate that when people ask in reasonable terms for information, details and case numbers etc. you seem to be very happy to provude a lengthy explaination and advertisment for youtr company, including the website rather than providing answers to the questions that you are being asked
_______________________ Roy Howitt
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www.sonrisaproperties.com
www.snaggingspain.com
WE CAN FIND YOUR DREAM HOME
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If you just read the thread is "White Baos Lawyers..." which is not we. We just entered here to say jackb that there are won cases against the bank and to suggest him/her to execute the judgment provisionally.
This is not a thread to market our services
_______________________ E. Lucas
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You say "big differencies between both developments"... Which ones?
Different contracts? Of course. Different banks? Not at all, because Popular is involved in both. Different developer? Yes, of course.
But, at the end, same FACTS and same LEGAL FRAMEWORK: Purchase contract, Breach of contract, developer under Insolvency, special account, lack of BGs, banks that don't check if the money they receive is guaranteed or not, and Law 57/1968.
Same as Higuericas, same as Trampolin Hills, same as many others.
And the only question I don't answer is the name of our succesful clients. And we will not answer it, as we said.That's our legal obbligation, and our policy.
About judgments, you have in your PM box details about the two latest. We are sure you'll find something wrong.
_______________________ E. Lucas
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We are one of the couples who are in this class action taken by White Baos Lawyers. We are obviously thrilled that we have received the news that we have won the case.
Since instructing Whate Baos to handle our case last June we have been very pleased with how they have handled it. Everything they have told us they would do they have done and have kept us informed of the progress every step of the way.
We have not paid large fees up front and if we don't get our money back we don't pay any fees. It is nearly 2 weeks now since we were informed of the outcome and we are now just hoping the banks don't appeal.
I will post on here any news I get, good or bad, over the next few weeks
Gazza
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Thank you Gazza for your update - it is great news that someone from acc is getting somewhere in their attempts to get their money back. Lets hope the bank doesn't appeal. Out of interest which bank is it?
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