27 Dec 2018 8:05 PM:

I advertise my property on HomeAway and last week received an email asking me to fill in an online form so that they will send my rental income from 2018 and onwards directly to the Spanish Tax Authorities. They also will send on Passport details of any holidaymakers as part of the Spanish Royal Decree 1070/2017.

I am a fully registered / licenced to rent my property in Spain, I declare and pay the 4+1 quartermy tax returns and also declare the income on my UK SA100 Self Assessment.

I am so confused by their email and the form that I called them up, unfortunately I seemed to know more about it than the girl I spoke to!

They are gathering and sending these details, but its not clear if they actually declare/pay the tax on your behalf in future. She implied they would. But my apartment is co-owned and the other owner declares and pays their half separately. The HomeAway web site only allows input details of one persins NIE number so how can the tax be paid across two owners?!

Also, you key in a "Tax value" - 19% for Spain. This then increases the final booking price right at the end by 19%. which then becomes the tax you pay. So how the heck do you offset this against your outgoings like mortgage interest ? You can't is the straight answer! The girl was very lost in the conversation and kept saying "call your local tax authority and ask them". As if the Andalucia Tax authority would have the slightest clue as to how poorly HomeAway had presented the email and their information. 

If you don't comply before end of Jan your ad is removed, I believe. However, I certainly don't want to be paying tax twoce, once as a straight 19% no offset, and then my own offset value and accountants fees also. It's almost like they relly haven't thought it out at all. 

Has anyone else received this email ? Its got a few of us on my development absolutely puzzled by its total lack of clarity.

Thanks,

Nigel

Thread: HomeAway Web Site now sending income to Spanish Tax authorities

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09 Apr 2017 1:44 PM:

Thanks Roberto, I understand that.

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the online submission site.

I've given up communicating with the Hacienda directly. I have trouble translating their replies using Google Earth at the best of times, so I ask Spanish friends to translate and even they say its not clear. As you say - open to interpretation...

Regards

Nigel

Thread: How can I submit a 210 quarterly rental income form myself

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09 Apr 2017 12:44 PM:

Ok, looking at the Agencia Tributaria web site and instructions fir filing the 210, it states the below:-

(not this bit, but starting at OTHER INCOME below)

What they havent stated is if you file say only 1 positive return in a year, do you declare that quarter ONLY as a positive return, and the rest at the end ?

I'm assuming they expect that if you are potentially renting you expect to make a positive return and therefore will be submitting a return quarterly. It would also make life easier for the tax advisors / accountants as it could get fiddly if people were only submitting positive returns.

However, if I am submitting the forms myself, I really dont mind submitting quarterly and it looks like you can do it through your own UK bank now.

Can I have peoples thoughts on this please ?

 Other income:

1. Positive tax returns (to pay): Tax returns must be filed and paid within the first twenty calendar days of April, July, October and January for income accrued in the quarter preceding these dates. If filed electronically by Internet, the tax payment  to be deposited from 1 to 15 can be paid automatically.

2. Zero charge tax returns: These must be filed between 1 and 20 January of the year following accrual of the income in question.

3. Negative tax returns (refund): These must be filed from 1 February of the year following accrual of the income in question and within four years following the end of the period for filing and paying withholdings. This is applicable to all self-assessed tax returns, irrespective of whether the refund derives from the internal rules of a particular double taxation Agreement, and even if a shorter period is stipulated in the implementing Order of the Agreement. The deadline for filing the self-assessment will be understood to conclude on the date it is filed.
 

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09 Apr 2017 12:29 PM:

Thanks Roberto. I have those forms up now, and the Agencia Tributaria web site, and am digging through and trying to understand it.

I'm looking for the annual payment options.

Regards

Nigel

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09 Apr 2017 11:16 AM:

Thats interesting Roberto. 

All of owners who declare on my complex seem to use different accountants/tax advisors and all are required to declare quarterly. I was wondering if this is because financially it is better for them.

Please can you point me to the Hacienda web site which states that you can pay annually (for rental income - NOT Non Resident tax - both of which use variants of the 210 form) ?

If I can see that, I agree, the Hacienda trumps all, and that would save me a lot of money.

Thank you,

Nigel

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