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Noel O'Kane said:
Tuesday, January 19, 2010 @ 4:24 PM

An English translation of the form would be helpful at least of the instructions to complete it.
Noel O'Kane

una said:
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 4:47 AM

I second that - is there no english version?

Moira Boyce said:
Thursday, September 16, 2010 @ 3:40 PM

Was there ever a response to Noel and Una

Antonio Robles said:
Friday, September 17, 2010 @ 7:32 PM

HI Moira,

I am sorry I didn´t see those comments. The answer is that there is no English version of those forms. They are Spanish officials forms and have no other translation but to some of the other co-official languages of Spain (Basque, Catalonian, Gallego and Valencian)

We can help this people in case they want to fulfill their forms.

Antonio Robles.

Isobel German said:
Monday, October 25, 2010 @ 2:59 PM

Can you tell me please how I would get your help to fill in this form. Thank you

Antonio Robles said:
Monday, October 25, 2010 @ 3:34 PM

Hi Isobel,

Usually to fill that form you need the last IBI bill, or if not, the price you bought your property. I presume you already have a NIE number and that your working in Spain with some of the banks that cooperate with the Spanish Tax office in order to set a direct debit for the payment of the bank.

If you wish we can help you with the process. you can contact us in antoniojara@serveco.es

Best regards,
Antonio Robles.
Best

Mr C Thurgood said:
Tuesday, October 26, 2010 @ 7:14 PM

My non residents tax works out at 116 euros but if I am not allowed to complete the form myself and submit it with the necessary documentary evidence it is going to cost me another 60 euros. What is the solution?

Antonio Robles said:
Tuesday, October 26, 2010 @ 8:01 PM

Hi Mr. Thurgood,

As a Tax advisor, I understand that some times you end up paying to the professional that assists you almost as much as you have to pay to the Taxman. But it is the way it goes, because there are minimum fees.

The term to pay the non-resident tax is the whole next year from January the 1st to December 31st. Anytime you come over to Spain yo can come to any Tax Office and buy the form or downloaded from the www.aeat.es and as you only need the IBI bill of the previous year probabley some the clerks at the Tax office might assist you for free.

Best regards,
Antonio Robles
antoniojara@serveco.es

Sarah said:
Friday, November 5, 2010 @ 1:03 AM

So if I take my IBI to the Tax Office together with the forms and pay this year's tax, will I be able to then set up a Direct Debit to pay next year onwards. My IBI and local tax already gets taken by Direct Debit automatically. It would be much better if this could happen with this tax also. Can I do this at the tax office or do I need to go to the bank to arrange this?

Antonio Robles said:
Friday, November 5, 2010 @ 2:12 PM

Dear Sarah,

In order to have everything clear: there are two taxes involved, the IBI tax is payable to the Town Hall and the Non-resident tax is payable to the State.

So, the IBI tax you can pay it at the bank with the bill you have picked up from the Town Hall, and if the bank cooperates with the Town Hall at the same time you pay the bill, you can order the direct debit for years on. If you don´t work with any of the banks that cooperate with the Town Hall you can pay at any of the ones that cooperate and with the bill already paid you can go to the Town Hall and set the direct debit for years on at your bank you usually work with. This bill for the IBI tax is calculated automatically by the Town Hall.

The non-resident tax, has to be calculated by you (or a tax advisor) and you can set a direct debit if you submit the form before December the 23rd or you can pay the form at the of the banks that cooperate with the Inland Revenue. But the bill is not calculated automatically everyyear. You will have to do it by your own or with the help of a tax advisor.

I hope I made myself clear enough.

Best regards,
Antonio

Sarah said:
Friday, November 5, 2010 @ 7:22 PM

Thank you very much for your reply Antonio. I, like most of the people who frequent these boards am used to filling out all sorts of Tax forms at home but struggle with the language barrier. We all want to pay everything due and on time but does anyone anywhere know of a site which translates this form to let us know what figures and information in what box. There seems to be 4 or 5 forms with almost identical information to fill in. It's not that I mind paying for services anywhere but this paying each year for a Tax Advisor seems a bit of a rip-off when it is a simple percentage formula and actually the problem is not that the English people are mathematically incompetant, we just need an English translation. Sorry if i come across as awkward, but it would be quite a simple matter for someone to translate this. My own fault for not being fluent, I suppose but i do try LOL

george said:
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 11:15 AM

Who actually needs a copy of the 210 form?
Cam Bank asked me for 4 copies of each of the 210 forms!
The two 210 forms consist of 1 that you use to calculate the amount to pay....the other is to say how much you are going to pay and this acts as a receipt of your payment also.
Surely the 2 originals go the the tax office, a copy of each form for the bank(although they could scan them into their system), and a copy of each form for yourself.
Cam were miffed that we didn't have an adminstrator but I can't see the point.

Antonio said:
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 12:48 PM

Hi,

the form 210 has four copies, but one of them is usually useless, so you keep one stamped by the bank, and the bank keeps two, the copy of the bank and the copy of the "Administración" because the bank submitts the copy for the Tax Office.

Best regards,
Antonio

Davey said:
Thursday, January 20, 2011 @ 10:55 AM

Could you please advise if there is a new form 210, for this year 2011?

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, January 20, 2011 @ 4:15 PM

Hi Davey

Yes there are. Indeed I wrote about them in this same blog. Probably they aren´t ready yet at the web page of the Income Tax office.

The appeared published at the BOE of 23 of december 2010. Here is the link

http://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2010/12/23/pdfs/BOE-A-2010-19707.pdf

Best regards,

Antonio

Davey said:
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 9:36 AM

Thank you Antonio,

Do you know if there are instructions in english, to help complete the new 210 form?

I have completed and filed the previous form 210.

My Spanish is not very good, although i am trying.

Regards
Dave

Antonio said:
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 7:40 PM

Hi Dave,
I am afraid there no instructions in English.

Best regards,
Antonio

atul sedani said:
Wednesday, March 2, 2011 @ 8:21 PM

what would be really good is if somebody scans a completed 210 tax form so that others can copy it even if it in spanish !
People can block out their bank accounts or NIE number if they are worried about confidentiality but this would really help. i visited the tax office in spain and obtained the forms and bar code stickers but still not sure which boxes to fill in !
thanks in advance
atul sedani

Bob said:
Monday, May 2, 2011 @ 9:45 PM

Try this site, it is very good for information.
http://www.ehow.com/how_5878951_do-spanish-tax-form-210.html.
If you want to do self assessment you need your IBI bill. The amount of local rates you pay is used to calculate your tax liability.
example
If your Valor cadastral is 120,000.
Then 120,000 x 0.02(2%) x 0.024(Tax rate) = €57.60.

If there are two names on the deeds split the liability and file seperate forms. Your can get your barcode NIF numbers from printer machines in most tax offices. Chech the form is filled in correctly, bring to a designated bank and either pay cash or set up a direct debit.

Val said:
Wednesday, June 8, 2011 @ 9:58 PM

Not completed the tax form before now. Can you tell me what to put in Delegacion de, Administracion de and codigo? We live in Alicante region (Pilar de la Horadada). Do we fill the form in on line, print it out, then sign it, send for stickers to attach and then take it to the bank to set up a direct debit?

Antonio Robles said:
Monday, June 13, 2011 @ 11:37 AM

Hi VAl,

Sorry to take so late to answer. You can put at Delegación: "Alicante", at Administración you can put "Orihuela", and código leave it in blank. This is not really important. To the rest of the process the answer is yes. Go ahead as you say.
Antonio

Nick said:
Thursday, June 16, 2011 @ 12:44 AM

Hi
I'm looking for some advice, I have had the 210 forms filled in by a tax advisor the same as last year, but this year I thought I would pay it using my online spanish bank, it allowed me to pay and gave me an NRC number for each payment my translation of the page was a bit vague but I'm sure it said I need the NRC number to verify the payment,
But then told me that I still need to submit the forms, can anyone tell me if I can just send the forms to the tax office?

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, June 16, 2011 @ 10:43 AM

Hi Nick,

If you have chosen to pay with NRC, (you could have set a direct debit instead or pay in cash with form in paper) you have to submit the form through internet. That is what law says, but in my daily experience as tax advisor, once you have paid with the NRC the Tax office doesn´t mind if you don´t submit the form. Anyway I would submit it if you can. But it will have to be done by Internet.

Best regards,
Antonio Robles.

Nick said:
Thursday, June 16, 2011 @ 6:19 PM

Thanks Antonio

Can I ask you if you have a link where I can submit the forms on the internet, I have looked at the Agencia Tributaria website but cant find anything. Will i just have to put in the NRC numbers I got from the bank?

thanks
Nick

Antonio said:
Thursday, June 16, 2011 @ 6:23 PM

Hi Nick,

I don´t know if this link is going to help you because it is a secure area of the web page of the tax office. And besides, in order to submit a tax form through internet you have to have a digital certificate that identifies you or go to a tax advisor that has a especial digital certificate that authorizes to submit tax forms in the name of others. As I told you, if you don´t want to hire the services of a tax advisors, just keep the slip of the bank with NRC and I don´t think you will have any problem in the future.

https://www.agenciatributaria.gob.es/AEAT.sede/tramitacion/GF00.shtml

Best regards,
Antonio

Nick said:
Thursday, June 16, 2011 @ 8:52 PM

Thank you for your help

regards
Nick

Tony said:
Tuesday, September 6, 2011 @ 6:35 PM

is the calculation correct ?

Mike said:
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 4:20 PM

Am I the only one not to have received an IBI bill? The tax was paid on time directly from my bank account but we have never received a bill or receipt. Is the is "normal"?

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 6:16 PM

Hi Mike,

If you have set a direct debit on your bank to pay every year the IBI bill, the bank should send you the bank slip with the receipt that the IBI has been paid. If not, and you think you had the IBI bill debited, you should check at your bank or the Town Hall to see if something is wrong.

Best regards,
Antonio Robles

Alfred Waldon said:
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 @ 1:19 PM

Dear Mr. Robles,

Like a lot of the other people commenting here I have a reasonable knowledge of conversational Spanish but not the Spanish jargon needed to complete tax forms.

As an accountant in UK I am well used to minimum fees and hourly rates. I was, however, somewhat surprised when my representative in Spain asked me for €100 to complete the 210 and pay over €54 (which by the way I think is an incorrect calculation).

Am I correct in thinking that If I complete the 210 myself I can simply take it to the local tax office, I think ours is in Almeria, and simply pay over the counter so to speak?

Best regards

Alfred

Antonio Robles said:
Wednesday, November 2, 2011 @ 9:49 AM

Hi Alfred,

You are right. Sometimes, if the value of the property that appears on the IBI bill is very low, tax advisors charge more than the tax due, but it is the way it is. For sure that any time you come over to rest in summer you can fulfill your income tax declaration during the that period, pay it at any of the banks that cooperate with the tax office, which are almost every one of them, even Lloyds is supposed to do so by year 2012, and take it to your nearest Tax office and submit it. For year 2010 you have the whole year 2011 to make the tax declaration, so if not summer, easter or even Chistmas, as the period ends December ths 31st

By the way our fees is 82,60 € VAT included and we take after the IBI bill so the clients pays it as well.

Best regards,
Antonio

Alfred Waldon said:
Wednesday, November 2, 2011 @ 12:50 PM

Dear Antonio,

Many thanks for the Quick reply. My property cost me €62000.00 so I calculate my tax (0.2% up to €167,129) to be €124.

Would it be possible to just walk into the tax office and have them help me complete the form?

Once this is done can I then pay annually by direct debit?

Best regards

Alfred

Antonio Robles said:
Wednesday, November 2, 2011 @ 6:37 PM

Hi Alfred,

Well the calculations are not correct. Once you have the IBI bill you have to consider the "valor catastral" that appears on the IBI bill, not the price you bought it for, and over that value the revenue taxable is 1.1%, over that amount you tax the 24%.

Regarding just walk in the nearest tax office they help you, will depend on the willingness of the clerk you might find there. Usually they help you with very specific questions but not to fulfill the whole form. Just try. You can set a direct debit for that year, but next year you will need to make the calculation again. It is different from the IBI that is calculated automatically by the Town Hall, and once is debited one year, it goes like that for years on.

Best regards,
Antonio

Tony said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 12:21 PM

Hi Antonio
I have read through the notices on this site and feel i have a grasp on the form the link i have is http://www.agenciatributaria.es/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210e.pdf if i complete the downloaded form and take it into my bank is the downloaded form acceptable ? Also i have my tax stickers to attach to the form but my friend has not do they need the stickers or do the simply fill in they pesonal details
Regards

Tony said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 12:23 PM

Hi Antonio
I have read through the notices on this site and feel i have a grasp on the form the link i have is http://www.agenciatributaria.es/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210e.pdf if i complete the downloaded form and take it into my bank is the downloaded form acceptable ? Also i have my tax stickers to attach to the form but my friend has not do they need the stickers or do the simply fill in they pesonal details
Regards

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 12:31 PM

Hi Tony,

The link should be http://www.aeat.es/static_files/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210_mi_MI.pdf

If you don´t have stickers then you should enclose to the form a copy of your NIE sheet.

Best regards,
Antonio

Tony said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 1:05 PM

Hi Antonio

I have downloaded the form from the link you put above thank you the form look very similar to the link i put on what is the difference ? I am submitting my return in Lanzarote is the form the same through out spain? Am i correct in that if i complete this form and print it off, that the form i print off is acceptable for the bank also can you just have a look at my calculation. i bought my my property on 3rd sept 2010 so i made a pro rata calcutation and divide by 2 for joint ownership

Catastral Value €64856.57 x 1.1% / 365 x 119 / 2 = 115.81 x 24% = 27.79

In respect of the direct debit then for next years payment the amount will change as it will be a full year will i have to inform them or will they take the full year?
Kind Regards
Tony

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 1:19 PM

Hi Tony,

Calculations is OK. The non-resident tax has to be calculated every year. It is not like the IBI bill that is calculated automatically by the Town Hall. You can take it to your bank with an envelop that is sold at the Tax offices.

Best regards,
Antonio

Tony said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 1:35 PM

Hi Antonio

Thank you for confirming the calcuation, i am now a liitle confused about the envelope you mentioned. Am i right the downloaded form is ok but it has to go in a special envelope ( i cannot just take the completed downloaded form into the bank )can i buy the envelopes online or can you only get them from the tax office and if i have to go to the tax office should i not pay it while i am there.

Kind Regards

Antonio said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 1:41 PM

Hi Tonny,

Try to take it to the bank without the envelope. If they don´t accept it you will have to get the envelope from the tax office. You cannot pay taxes at the tax office. Only at bank branches, and once it is paid and stamped by the bank, the bank submit to the Tax office. The envelop cannot be bought on-line. Indeed, I am quite sure they give it to you for free at the tax office.

Antonio

Tony said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 1:50 PM

Hi Antonio
Thank you for your help, i suppose i was trying to be lazy an avoid a trip to the tax office at least i have got the form online so saved myself that part.

Muchas Gracias

Tony said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 6:28 PM

Hi Antonio

please can you confirm which is the correct form from the followimg links the only difference i can see the number on the bar code.

http://www.aeat.es/static_files/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210_mi_MI.pdf

http://www.agenciatributaria.es/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210e.pdf

http://www.aeat.es/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210e.pdf

what is the difference on the form

Regards

Tony

Antonio said:
Thursday, November 3, 2011 @ 6:35 PM

all of them are good, everytime you download the bar code changes so there are no forms equal.

Tony said:
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 12:53 PM

Hi Antonio doe this mean that i must submit a different from for each owner with a unique bar code also each year i know this is not a great hard ship i just did not want to print of one and keep using it

Regards
Tony

Tony said:
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 1:04 PM

Hi Antonio doe this mean that i must submit a different from for each owner with a unique bar code also each year i know this is not a great hard ship i just did not want to print of one and keep using it

Regards
Tony

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 1:47 PM

Correct. One per owner and year and with a different bar code.
Even if you both properties 50% with your wife or partner, then it would be four declarations, one per owner and per property.
Best regards,
Antonio

Tony said:
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 4:16 PM

Hi Antonio i am trying to submit online via this link https://www2.agenciatributaria.gob.es/es13/h/ie02100b.html?idi=EN#S045

But i keep getting the following error message even though i am filling the data in

Error en los siguientes ámbitos:
Ubicación de la propiedad: Código postal Localización de la propiedad: ProvinciaPor favor, corrija
Regards

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 4:23 PM

Sorry Tony,

But this is the point when I have to tell you that our fees to fufill the form are 70 € plus VAT. I hope you understand.

Best regards,
Antonio

Tony said:
Friday, November 11, 2011 @ 3:42 PM

Hi Antonio
i understand but if i could ask one more question it would be appreciated what dates should i put in the following boxes i bought my property sept 2010 and this is my first payment
Acumulación de años ?
Fecha de devengo ?
Regards
tony

linda w said:
Friday, November 11, 2011 @ 11:50 PM

Hi
not sure if anyone has noted this but when going over my past tax forms done by a tax advisor....the amount I paid was the IBI
amount x .44
re: suma /08 155.54 x.44 = 68.44 amount paid on tax form
/09 158.65 x.44 = 69.80
so 2010 suma 160.23 x.44 = 70.50 = tax amount to pay for 2010 please try on old tax forms and see if this works for you. Linda

Pat B said:
Wednesday, December 7, 2011 @ 3:14 AM

This small taxis a nuisance and the Tax authority makes it as difficult as possible for people. A complaint needs to be sent to the European Commission. Asking a Euro MP in UK achieves nothing either. All most people want is a dummy copy for non residents with a translation of the the required inputs in English. There is one for former Scottish Power shareholders that gives a little information. Seemingly the solution is to pay an advisor for the first year make sure you get a copy then do it yourself from that in future years

Peter said:
Thursday, January 5, 2012 @ 5:59 PM

Tony, you cannot use the new form 210 for imputed non-resident income tax for the fiscal year of 2010. Its use is for declarations for 2011 onwards. You have to use the old form for 2010 but presumably you have discovered this already.

GrumpyGit said:
Thursday, February 9, 2012 @ 12:30 PM

I have downloaded the same form and used it for the last 3 years, 2008,2009,2010. You can download the forms in PDF format, fill them in using your computer and then print them out. There are are copies for the tax office, compies for your representative. I only print pages 1-2 and 4-5. The other copies are for your representative and page 7 is for the bank but they don't seem to want it.

Use this address to get the form.

http://www.aeat.es/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210e.pdf



I pay the tax by taking the completed forms to my bank. They enter the data on-line, take the money from my account, stamp the forms. They send the forms to the Tax Office. I get to keep a set.

To complete the forms you need your tax office etiquetas. You get these by going to the tax office or requesting them on-line.

https://aeat.es/etidomic.html

Fecha de devengo is the tax year date. Fill in the Contribuyente block with your details. Fill in Renta Obtenida with the address of the property you are paying the tax on. Tipo renta = 02, Clave de divisa = 954.

Determinacion de la base imponible box 4 is calculated as "Catastral value" x 1.1%. Divide the result by the number of people who share ownership of the property.

Liquidation box 14 is 24 0 (tax rate is 24%) Boxes 18 and 21 is calculated as 24% of the amount entered in box 4.

REMEMBER THAT IF YOU RENT YOUR HOUSE OUT THEN THE ABOVE AMOUNT MUST ALSO INCLUDE YOUR RENTAL INCOME LESS COSTS. CONSULT AN ADVISOR.

Page 2. Top part is the same as page 1, box 21 is the same as box 21 page 1.

Ingresos : tick box EC adeudo en cuenta, Importe = box 21 amount, Codigo cuenta are your bank account details .

Sign and date. Go to your bank (not the cash desk but one of the blokes sitting at a desk) let them do the rest.

It has worked for me for the last 3 years

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, February 9, 2012 @ 12:39 PM

Also I would like to take the change to remind that for tax years 2012 and 2013 the tax is 24,75% instead of 24%
Best regards,
Antonio

Andy said:
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 @ 9:44 PM

I pay my IBI by DD and the receipt that I receive from the Suma office confirming payment does not show the catastral value for 2011. As the amount paid is the same as 2010 is it safe to assume that the catastral value will be the same? Obviously I need this value to calculate 2011 Non-Res tax.

Antonio Robles said:
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 4:25 PM

Yes, you can take the value of the previous year, only if you see that the final amount to pay of IBI is similar. Usually the IBI values changes once every 7 o 8 years. Unless the change catches you...

Best regard,s
Antonio.

Jill said:
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 7:58 PM

I have just returned from Spain and paid my 2011 income tax on form 210 via my bank, as normal. I understood that the new forms for 2012 had been streamlined down to 3 pages, but when I visited the tax office to get forms and stickers for next year's payment, they didn't understand me. Was I misinformed about there being a new form? Also, the tax office adviser indicated that I should have paid the 2011 tax online and not have used form 210 through my bank last week! I have been paying for many years, but I'm now confused! I cannot see a way to pay online. Thanks

Kerry said:
Monday, April 23, 2012 @ 11:36 AM

I have completed our last 2 tax returns by printing the above mentioned form and paying at my local bank. Am I correct in assuming I can still use the same form and pay at my bank as we have previously done. The only reason is ask is that I have stumbled across a post on:
http://www.andalucia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=27897&p=260418#p260418

This post seems to show a brand new completely different form that is printed in English?? Antonio do you know if I have to now use this new form or can I continue using the old one as the instructions providing seem very long when trying to save the form to your pc in order to print it off??
Any advice would be really appreciated as I want to pay these taxes when we fly out to Spain in a few weeks time

Thanks

Antonio Robles said:
Monday, April 23, 2012 @ 11:54 AM

Hi,

The link you send me seems to be OK. I wasn´t aware of this possiblity, as this year I haven´t started off the campaing of non-resident. The Spanish Tax office is permantly innovating with its web page. What you have to do is to fulfill the tax and generate a copy in PDF, print it and take it to the bank to pay it. The Spanish tax office more and more is getting rid of tax forms in paper and making things easier for electronic and internet submission of the tax payments.

Best regards,
Antonio

Kerry said:
Tuesday, May 1, 2012 @ 3:22 PM

Thanks Antonio

Will I need to use the new form I mentioned or could I still use the old one as I know what I'm doing with this even though it's in spanish!

sam said:
Wednesday, May 2, 2012 @ 8:41 PM

Hi I have been told that on the new non resident 210 tax forms i now have to put my english address of residence and not my spanish one that I have always done
Thanks

Antonio Robles said:
Thursday, May 3, 2012 @ 12:44 PM

You have to include both. The spanish one in order to receive notifications from the Tax office.

Kerry said:
Monday, May 14, 2012 @ 11:59 AM

Hi Antonio

Can you tell me if the link I previously asked about relates to a tax return on a property that you receive rental income on? Do you have a link for the most upto date form which will enable me to complete the return for a property that is for personal use?
Thanks

disgruntled from tunbridge wells said:
Friday, June 8, 2012 @ 11:45 PM

what? what are you all talking about? we are just buying a place in spain and NOONE has ever told us about this. where do we find stuff out?

Kerry said:
Wednesday, June 13, 2012 @ 11:06 AM

Just another tax that you have to pay whether you are resident in Spain or not, it is based on the castral value of your property which is determined by the town hall. You find this on your receipt for your IBI which you pay yearly (similar to council tax) it isn't a large amount, it's just a pain to complete especially now they have changed the form to electronic only. I have tried to sumit several times but on every occasion the system crashes I am seriously considering paying someone to do it for me now!!

If you type tax form 210 Spain into google it brings up lots of info about it.

disgruntled from tunbridge wells said: said:
Saturday, June 23, 2012 @ 1:02 AM

Thank you Kerry.
Have just returned from majorca - a gestor quoted 130euros plus vat to complete this for us next year. and you are saying i can do it myself?!
everything official in spain seems very hard work compared to the uk. why do people buy there? am seriously put off.

Kathy said:
Wednesday, October 3, 2012 @ 2:24 PM

We only discovered this year that we should pay this tax. An advisor completed forms for the last 5 years. as our property is over 2 levels and the council made a mistake many years ago and thought it was only one level, they now bill the IBI as two amounts. One for each level. As the advisor had to complete 2x form 210 for each of us she charged nearly 300 euros for a bill of 140 euros! It seemed to take her only minutes to comete the forms online. Do you think this price is a rip off? We pay an accountant in the UK nearly that amount to do our whole years income accounts which are far more complicated.

Antonio said:
Wednesday, October 3, 2012 @ 2:29 PM

Hi Kathy,

I think that payment is exagerated. The fees of our firm would be (in your case with two supposed properties) just 70 € plus 21% for the whole marriage. I mean, just one bill of 70 € plus 21%

If you are interested we will be glad to take after it.

Best regards,
Antonio Robles.
antoniojara@serveco.es

Tony said:
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 11:42 AM

Hello

Please can you help me I wish to pay my non-resident income tax I have gone to this link www2.agenciatributaria.gob.es/es13/h/ie02100b.html?idi=En and completed the form one for my wife and one for myself. Is this now the correct one ?

I have validated and generated the form I just want to know is the correct form to take to my bank to pay my tax ( how many prints of the form do I need to take with me )

Last year I used this link http://www.aeat.es/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210e.pdf and took that to the bank to pay
also is it ok in english or do i need the spanish version

thank you

Tony said:
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 11:51 AM

Hello

Please can you help me I wish to pay my non-resident income tax I have gone to this link www2.agenciatributaria.gob.es/es13/h/ie02100b.html?idi=En and completed the form one for my wife and one for myself. Is this now the correct one ?

I have validated and generated the form I just want to know is the correct form to take to my bank to pay my tax ( how many prints of the form do I need to take with me )

Last year I used this link http://www.aeat.es/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210e.pdf and took that to the bank to pay
also is it ok in english or do i need the spanish version

thank you

Tony said:
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 12:06 PM

Hello

Please can you help me I wish to pay my non-resident income tax I have gone to this link www2.agenciatributaria.gob.es/es13/h/ie02100b.html?idi=En and completed the form one for my wife and one for myself. Is this now the correct one ?

I have validated and generated the form I just want to know is the correct form to take to my bank to pay my tax ( how many prints of the form do I need to take with me )

Last year I used this link http://www.aeat.es/AEAT/Contenidos_Comunes/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Modelos_y_formularios/Declaraciones/Modelos_200_al_299/210/mod210e.pdf and took that to the bank to pay
also is it ok in english or do i need the spanish version

thank you

Liz said:
Thursday, October 18, 2012 @ 5:24 PM

The website above is that of Mijas Foreigners Dept., Malaga, and tells you, in English, how to fill in Form 210

David said:
Thursday, October 18, 2012 @ 9:12 PM

Hi Antonio
I have submitted 4 years tax forms for both my wife and I as we are joint owners of our property. I was informed by the spanish tax authorities that the calculation was incorrect and that all the monies submitted( in excess of 500 euros) would have to be returned and the correct amount resubmitted. Meanwhile I was asked to pay the correct amount for 2008 which I did and to date have not had any further instructions from the tax office concerning either the return of the monies paid or correct payments to be paid. Does the tax office in Madrid usually take so long to reply its been at least 6 months.

Antonio said:
Monday, October 22, 2012 @ 10:33 AM

Hi David,

Yes it can take that long. I don´t know exactly what paperwork you might have of this claim of taxes, but usually, a solicitar that cares and really take after these kind of things, usually has to pay a couple of visits to the tax office to see how things are going.

Probably your issue is not at Madrid central headquarters. It will be at the nearest tax office where the property is located.

Best regards,
antonio.

Janet H said:
Monday, October 22, 2012 @ 7:29 PM

Anybody any idea what is wrong? I have completed form 210 on-line, but when I get to the end and click the box that says "validate and generate PDF" I get an error message that says my petition cannot be dealt with at this moment. then the form is cleared and I have to start again! I have tried many times and it is always the same.

Janet H said:
Monday, October 22, 2012 @ 7:29 PM

Anybody any idea what is wrong? I have completed form 210 on-line, but when I get to the end and click the box that says "validate and generate PDF" I get an error message that says my petition cannot be dealt with at this moment. then the form is cleared and I have to start again! I have tried many times and it is always the same.

Heather said:
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 @ 10:39 PM

I have tried to complete the new 210 online form but keep being advised of errors re the amounts I am entering (nos 21-30). Could anyone advise me the correct values I should be inputting at each point. Also if the amount is, say 10.51 do you input it as 10.51 or 1051? Our charge is split between 4 owners.
Many thanks in advance for help.

krist said:
Friday, October 26, 2012 @ 11:09 PM

Bonjour,
Je suis le propriétaire de un appartement. J'ai rempli le formulaire modèle 210 et j'ai imprimé les deux feuilles. A quoi servent ces feuilles et comment devrais je les utiliser? Dans l'une de ces feuilles est indiqué mon numéro de compte bancaire en Espagne. Je voudrais savoir si le prélévement se fera automatiquement, si non, de quelle d'autre façon je devrai régler l'impot?

Antonio Robles said:
Monday, October 29, 2012 @ 9:18 AM

Hi Krist,

they only way you can order a direct debit for the non-resident tax is if you have an electronic signature. If you don´t, you have to print the five pages of the PDF form generated by the tax office and go to your bank and pay it.
As the PDF form is original, you can resend it to your Spanish bank and instruct them to pay it as if you were there in person.

Best regards
Antonio

Gail said:
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 @ 9:18 PM

Have tried to complete form 210 on line - filled it in several times but when trying to validate the form error message comes up, when I try to go back to the form it appears blank again! Any help gratefully received!!

Tony said:
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 @ 4:55 PM

On my IBIU i have two figures one is the Valor Catastral and the other Base Imponible which one do i use and do i still calculate 1.1%

Thank you

Antonio Robles said:
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 @ 4:58 PM

you have to take the sum of both figures, the one of Valor construcción and the one of Valor del suelo.

At the end is Valor catastral the one you have to take in consideration.

Tony said:
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 @ 5:16 PM

Hi Antonio

on my IBIU it has valor del Suelo 49.805,19 Valor Construido 14.781,38 Valor Catastral 64.586,57
it also has a Base Imponible 43.737,00 i cant work out which one to use ??

thank you

Angeles Rual said:
Saturday, July 6, 2013 @ 6:23 PM

Estimado Sr Robles,

Soy una española residente en UK. Poseo junto con mi hermana un piso en Bilbao (como herencia familiar) y hasta ahora he declarado, anualmente, mi parte a Hacienda a traves de una gestoria.
Este año han cambiado la frecuencia y el modelo 210 debe ser cumplimentado cada trimestre, con lo que he decidido cumplimentarlo por mi cuenta y ahorrar gastos. Despues de muchos intentos he logrado entrar en la pagina del modelo 210 y cumplimentarla pero siempre me da un error en el apartado:
"DEVENGO - PERIODO". En este trimestre he cogido la opcion de 2T- segundo trimestre, pero a la hora de validar el documento me dice: ERROR DE DEVENGO, PERIODO CAMPO INCORRECTO" y me pregunto si usted sabe lo que hay que poner.

Muchas gracias por adelantado,

Gennadi said:
Monday, October 21, 2013 @ 12:20 PM

Dear Antonio,

As far as I know percentage for the tax base calculation (1.1% or 2%) depends on the location of my property, right? Where can find this information? Do you probably know what is the right percentage for Pego, Alicante? My house is built in 2003.

Thanks in advance.

Antoniojara said:
Monday, October 21, 2013 @ 4:30 PM

Hi
Just take in consideration the 1.1%. the detail to choose between one or the other is the date of revision of the catastral values. If there were checked after 1994 (99,99% of cases) then it is 1.1%. if the last revision was before 1994 then 2%.

the rule has its sense with the first law of income tax of 1998. With after version, the rule hasn´t been changed and therefore now is senseless.

best regards
antonio

Gennadi said:
Tuesday, October 22, 2013 @ 9:13 AM

Thanks for your fast reaction.

My house is built in 2003, catastral value was defined in 2005, I guess, and never revised. In fact, they tried to revise the value but for some reason failed. Is it possible that you should appy 2% and not 1.1%?

Kind Regards,
Gennadi

Antoniojara said:
Tuesday, October 22, 2013 @ 4:42 PM

In that case the percentage is 1.1%.

Gennadi said:
Tuesday, October 22, 2013 @ 6:48 PM

Thanks again.

Does it mean that when catastral value is defined after 1994 (first time or after revision) percentage of 1.1% is valid.
Could you refer to some official document of practical case explaining this situation?
In 2010 & 2011 my applications have been filled by third party and they applied percentage of 2%. Could I refund too much paid amounts?

Thanks in advance,

Antoniojara said:
Tuesday, October 22, 2013 @ 6:51 PM

Yes you could, if you have done so. If you wish, we can budget you the recalcalution of the tax that should have been paid and the fulfillment of the application of the tax refund.

best regards
antonio

Tomas Mac said:
Saturday, November 23, 2013 @ 11:48 PM

How can download the 2012/ 210 form for the Dec tax return. I am travelling to Spain next week. Can you help me please

Daria said:
Tuesday, December 3, 2013 @ 9:26 PM

Hello to everybody,
a lot of questions here...

Right calculation for Modelo 210 is as following:
Taxable Base [4] = Valor Catastral * 1.1%
Type of taxe rat, IRNR law [21] = 24.75%
Full amount due [22] = [4]*[21]

If there are more than 1 owner of the property, in this case you should divide [22] for the quantity of the owners, and this amount is the exact amount which appears in each Modelo 210 (you need 2 copies for each owner).

Here is an example (2 owners of the property):
V. Catastral from I.B.I. receipt is 150 000 euro.
[4] = 150 000 * 1.1% = 1650 euro
[21] = 24.75%
[22] = (1650*24.75)/2 = 204.21 euro

Hope this helps,
Regards

Daria said:
Thursday, December 5, 2013 @ 4:36 PM

Sorry, a little mistake here (appears when you fill-in Modelo 210 online. You see, that final result is the same, but [4] must be calculated as shown below:

Here is an example (2 owners of the property):
V. Catastral from I.B.I. receipt is 150 000 euro.
[4] = 150 000 * 1.1% : 2 owners = 825 euro
[21] = 24.75%
[22] = (825 * 24.75%) = 204.21 euro

Hope this helps,
Regards

jswood said:
Sunday, August 17, 2014 @ 3:28 PM

To Antonio Robles

Is the percentage used last year for Form 210, i.e. 24.75%, the same for completing the form this year?

Thanking you for your reply to this question.

Janice Wood