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Now, They'll Let us Vote in the UK...
Monday, January 22, 2024 @ 1:54 PM

It was a shame that those of us Brits who back then in 2016 had lived abroad for fifteen years couldn’t vote in the famous referendum over leaving the European Union. The Brexit as it became known: the one where the UK would steer a new course all by itself.

As to where it was going, who could be sure? Glory, success and ennoblement of course, but maybe only for those few millionaires who had wisely moved their funds offshore beforehand.

But that’s the problem for the United Kingdom and its inhabitants to face. Brexit will bring some benefits perhaps, along with some unpleasant realisations and lessons.

Over here in the remains of the European Union, things appear to be moving along. We are managing quite well in the absence of the British, and wish them well with their straight bananas and trade deals with Timbuktu.

We couldn’t vote, us lot. Normally, voting for a candidate to become either a member of parliament or to crash and burn might be useful enough for those who live there – a good candidate will have ideas and energy to spruce things up locally – with the benevolent support and indulgence of his party – but we live, and have lived for a long time – in foreign parts.

The French have long had a group within their parliament which represents Frenchmen abroad. They have eleven seats in the National Assembly. Nice.

The referendum, of course, was different. Instead of discussing the pros and cons of increasing the acreage of sugar-beet (I’m from a bucolic part of East Anglia: left for Spain when I was thirteen), it was about a subject which would enormously affect us expats – traitors and malingers as we might have been considered back in Henley – in many ways.

Sugar-beet, by the way, is a kind of turnipy-thing that you can either get sugar from, or can feed to the cows.

Yet we couldn’t vote in the one thing that would have affected us.

Back then, I doubt even the British media bothered to ask us our views, despite there being 1,300,000 of us living in the EU and another 4,200,000 living elsewhere in the world.

Regardless of the usefulness or otherwise of swelling my North Norfolk constituency by one person; and following a change in the law, we Brits abroad (fifteen years and up) are now encouraged to register (every three years) and to call for our postal vote. This register of Brits abroad may not be huge (although they endearingly estimate three million potential voters – spread of course across 650 polls), but it might attract a few extra donations to one party or another which will no doubt be welcomed (if criticised elsewhere).

Right now, I’m renewing my passport (they do this these days in Belfast). My current one has ‘European Union’ stamped in gold on the cover. My new one won’t.

I suppose you are right – I should be looking for Spanish citizenship after all these years here. After all, I speak Spanish and know my way around – even if I do happen to look extremely and pinkly Nordic.

All I wanted, really, was to be a European.

Anyway, it boils down to this: either get myself a Spanish passport, or find out more about the fascinating politics of sugar-beet.



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Charlietwice said:
Sunday, January 28, 2024 @ 11:53 AM

I remember getting my referendum voting papers a week before the vote. It had instructions to send it at least 10 days before the day itself. I’m convinced my vote didn’t count and I’m fairly sure most people had the same issue. This week came with news of more checks and price rises for the UK on food coming from the EU and still we are told by big sections of the media that leaving was best, yet still can’t show any tangible benefits. Most people are now lethargically drifting and can’t be bothered to fight it. From over here, the UK looks in a sad state, and quite isolated.


Ten66 said:
Sunday, January 28, 2024 @ 2:58 PM

For me in Spain, it made my life harder, not much harder but just that little bit so.
I speak Spanish but not well enough to be Spanish citizen, yet, and as I am running high on years maybe I will never get there.
I will still work towards it though.
I was lucky enough to afford a small flat in UK in case it went to hell in a handcart (medical not sorted) but that side was OK. So now I just deprive some low wage person access to a cheap UK home.
Still not seen any positives for UK but it is not so important to me now.
The vote is important, all my income comes from there (the UK minus the Brexit dividend) so at least I feel I have some say in that.

I am happy in Spain, I am sad I cannot buy UK goods anymore due to hassle and costs with post and my UK phone had to go.
So, all my income from UK, all my spending (well most) in EU.

Life continues and I really hope the UK soars and proves this pessimist wrong.


sdeleng said:
Sunday, January 28, 2024 @ 6:03 PM

I live in Spain and voted remain. By express delivery. Like the person above I have my doubts whether it got there in time. Half or more of my mountain village britts voted leave. Then they panicked when it happened and realised that they needed to get their papers sorted.

I do not know one person here or in England that is happy with taking back control and that oven ready brexit deal, no matter what they voted in the first place.i do know a lot of people suffering terribly in the UK due to it. Include me. My children have fled for other pastures and it’s tough on them and us. Actually my house and is in a different pasture than myself. We sound like cows. Moo


sdeleng said:
Sunday, January 28, 2024 @ 6:05 PM

I live in Spain and voted remain. By express delivery. Like the person above I have my doubts whether it got there in time. Half or more of my mountain village britts voted leave. Then they panicked when it happened and realised that they needed to get their papers sorted.

I do not know one person here or in England that is happy with taking back control and that oven ready brexit deal, no matter what they voted in the first place.i do know a lot of people suffering terribly in the UK due to it. Include me. My children have fled for other pastures and it’s tough on them and us. Actually my spouse and I are in different pastures. We sound like cows. Moo


sdeleng said:
Sunday, January 28, 2024 @ 6:07 PM

Ignore first post. Editing here is dire. Actually work between the two. Print so small….


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