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What does the Notary do?
Thursday, March 28, 2013 @ 9:21 AM

The Notary is one of the most powerful and respected figures in Spanish life. Whatever your nationality, you must involve the Notary in any major transaction such as buying a property or making a will. In England, when we make a will or buy or sell a property, everything is dealt with by the solicitor. In Spain, the solicitor does the leg work, but unless the Notary is happy, you cannot complete on your sale or authenticate your will. And the Notary, not the solicitor, will register your title to your property with the Land Registry.

When you see the Notary, make sure you are smartly dressed. If you are wearing shorts and a vest top, he will not see you. The Notary is very powerful and everyone is expected to show respect for his office by dressing appropriately. So it’s trousers and shirt for the men, although a tie is optional, and trousers, skirt – not too short - or dress for the ladies. There seem to be dozens of staff in the Notary’s office, but you can easily identify The Man Himself. He’s the only one wearing a jacket, even on the hottest day.

Even if your appointment is for 10.00am, don’t make any other arrangements for the rest of the day. The Notary Appointment System is one of the great mysteries of life. Nobody knows how it works; people arriving after you may go straight in, while others seem to languish there for hours. We waited for almost two hours to complete on our property . Our Estate Agent said we were lucky, as the previous couple he accompanied waited for 5 hours! And don’t bother complaining. In Spain, the Notary is akin to God, and you wouldn’t ask God how much longer you need to wait, would you? There is always a water machine in the Notary’s office, and some people even bring a packed lunch!

Before you complete your transaction, your solicitor and the builder’s representative, if you are buying a new property, will meet with the Notary and his secretary. You’ll witness lots of shouting, arm-waving and maybe laughter. You may think that they are about to come to blows over your dream home, but that’s how the Spanish do business. Reserve is a no-no, even in the august presence of the Notary. When he is happy that all the building and planning permissions are in place, that there are no debts on the property, and  that all monies have been transferred, it’s your turn.

The Notary’s office is enormous and lined with books. There is usually a picture of the Great Man with King Juan Carlos – all the Notaries seem to have met him. All parties to the deal sit around a huge table, while the Notary reads out the complete title deed (escritura) in Spanish. Your passport is checked, and you are asked if you understand everything about the transaction. Then everyone present signs and your home is now truly yours.

There are Notaries in England, but they do not fulfil the same function as the Spanish variety. He is at the heart of both the local government system and his community. Seemingly, every newspaper seems to bring tidings of yet another Mayor or council official who has been jailed for corruption, but the Notary is universally trusted and respected. While he must undertake several years of further training after attaining the obligatory law degree before setting up office, the rewards and prestige attached to the office and person of the Notary are well worth the hard work involved in qualifying.

 



 



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unlucky13 said:
Thursday, March 28, 2013 @ 9:38 AM

Hi,
Does the Notary play any part in the purchase of "off plan" property ?
If he does what is his exact role ?
From your information it would appear that he is "above" the Lawyers, therefore does he take any responsibility for the wording in the Purchase Contract and the Bank Guarantee ?


eggcup said:
Thursday, March 28, 2013 @ 10:20 AM

Another informative piece Sandra. Personally, I am quite anti-authoritarian and like to treat all people decently and not treat the notary with any more respect than I'd give to anyone else. As far as I understand, they haven't been squeaky clean either, because there used to be all that money under the table stuff, which notaries allowed (personally we never did any of that and the prices we paid for property were always fully-declared). I'm not sure what exactly they do for their big wad of cash - you could pay an 8-year old to read out the title deeds in full as they do - they don't seem to add any pearls of wisdom. And if you have a lawyer, I don't see why the notary is needed at all... All the best.


Patricia (Campana) said:
Thursday, March 28, 2013 @ 8:23 PM

Here we go:

http://www.notariado.org/liferay/web/notariado/inicio




Mac75 said:
Friday, March 29, 2013 @ 10:34 AM

They will write up or modify all title deeds and all company papers. A lawyer can not do this or is not allowed to do this better said. A lawyer at most will write up a private contract. So they don't just read them out they write them up too! Apart from this their main function is to "give faith" as to what is happening, ie an official and legal witness. It may seem easy but it's 8 years of study after university to become a Notaire in Spain and then have the opportunity to obtain a license which are limited and given by Government, as they are effectively civil servants and work on behalf of the state. If a document conflicts with law they are obliged to inform the parties, so they must know all of the laws in the country in every sector they don't specialise in particular areas, in theory...


mailpoint_dave said:
Friday, March 29, 2013 @ 6:06 PM

Good post and useful thread. I thought they had been instructed to clean up the house sale process and thus were challenging valuations that were blatantly inaccurate.

It will take more than a royal decree to change what was common practice - but it was a good start.


unlucky13 said:
Friday, March 29, 2013 @ 10:00 PM

Hi Mac75, Excuse my ignorance but I am still in the dark as to whether a notary deals with "off plan" properties but supposing he does I would say that the "in theory" quote in your piece, was to highlight the fact that it doesn't happen "in practice".
I would say that my purchase contract for an "off plan" property was an abortion and if a Notary had been present he must have been deaf dumb and blind.
What a waste of a University course and another eight years training.........


Patricia (Campana) said:
Sunday, March 31, 2013 @ 8:32 PM

A Contract of Sale and the Deeds (escritura) are two different things.

The Contract of Sale (contrato de compraventa) is usually drawn up by a solicitor engaged by the potential purchaser, although often the developers have their own ready-made version (standard contract), which SHOULD be taken to a solicitor for perusal, and the unacceptable (to the client) parts re-negotiated or removed. There is nothing odd or unusual about re-negotiating aspects of a contract.

Once satisfied (the client) the matter moves on from there, up to the point when the Deeds (escritura) are signed in the presence of the Notary.

No one is forced to sign anything s/he does not wish to sign.

The Notary has nothing to do with "off-plan" properties; he is not a property agent. He deals with the Deeds for property of all kinds: land and buildings, off-plan, on-plan, built, sites, etc.








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