Hello Everyone

For all buyers from „Vistas de las Rocas“
I am one of the original owners in this urbanisacion. 
The plans of the infrastructure are not correct, and the quality of the workmanship is poor. Because of this there are on going court cases. In the interest of my friends and neighbours and a good relacionship for the future i recomend all buyers check there paperwork carefully.
For example:
- The building regulations, the house must be 5 meters from the public road.
- Has the pool got building permission and is it included in the purchase price of the house. The problem is, the plot is only allowed for comercial and public use.
- The promotor from the houses has changed the building plans and there is talk of more houses being built a third line of townhouses, witch will inefect take the sea view away.
- Because of the poor workmanship the cost of maintenance will be high in the future. Its possible, that this cost could be paid by the owners.
- Its possible, that the promoter could abanden this project. Leaving the buyers with no warranty or guaranty. The promoter has a spanish company, Zyljen S.L.. And this means it is a Ltd. Company.

Can you explain more about the poor workmanship of the properties?
Originally there was going to be 3 rows, but in fact there was not building permission for the front row as houses.
Im sure nobody knows what will happen to the front parcel ofland.
There is now a hotel being built in front of this plot of land.
The pool does have a licence which I have a copy, but this is in Spanish so can not translate.
Could you PM me with any other information as we were also one of the original purchasers (4 years ago) and have just completed.
Thanks
Ann

  the promotor have applied new plans and the town hall have modifid the building plans in the october 2007. Now he has been cranted permission for to built a third row of houses. The promotor will sell this plot. 
Petra

27 May 2009 08:30 Susan&Pip Parcela I've made 4 posts Send private message to Susan&Pip

Hi all,   You may be interested in this I was sent by a "well wisher"...   Homes From Hell 2009 on ITV2 are looking for people who have had, or are having, problems with buying homes abroad for them to investigate. They asked for people to email them on homes at itv dot com  (sorry - can't put the correct link because I've posted less than 10 posts - and don't want to clog up the system just to reach 10!)   I suggest we ALL contact them…this could be the big publicity breakthrough we need and have been waiting for!

Feedback from the meeting at The Insolvency Service for those who could not attend. Key points:

* The Insolvency Service WILL investigate the conduct of the directors and shadow directors (those who acted in the capacity as directors or (maybe - I'm not sure) held themselves out to be directors

* The vote on the appointment of the Liquidators was made. It was a simple monetery majority by the creditors that led to the apointment of Nick Wood and Ian Richardson of Grant Thornton. One is in London one is in Leeds (I think). A member of Mr Richardson's team can take calls 0207 7282651 - Sam - I think her name was. However, hold back for now, they have to have time to investigate.Their role is to recover funds and turn assets into cash to pay a dividend (eg 20p in the £) to the creditors at the end of the liquidation (I am not talking down to anyone, just not averyone will understand this process).

* DI Spears and his team's 'role (previous asumption made here was incorrect - sorry to ooovvvpp poster!) is to investigate what happened and work with other agencies (including internationally with the SFO) the Ins Service and liquidators to recover funds and undertake criminal action if necessary.  WHAT THEY DON'T need is mass calling of people. Report you case by telephone, if you feel you have been a victim of crime by OVP, and obtain your crime reference number.

* Still send your reports of your own dealings to the Ins Serv (especially matters of conduct of the directors and shaddow directors) and lodge your claims as creditors with the IS at Manchester (0161 234 8351). Also, send in reports (the same ones to the IS) to help the investigation if you have not done so to  DI Andrew Spears (Staffordshire Economic Crime Unit ) BUT give them some breathing space to investigate. The investiagtion on 3 fronts (IS, Liquidators and police.  It IS underway and IS being taken seriously)

* The creditors that came forward as of the 1 June cut-off date amounted to £42million. (I think was Sterling not EUROS).

* The was a creditor claim of circa £1m relating to Sean Woodhall's company/Worldwide Desinations -  as he has died (I know) in a plane crash his interest will be liquidated for his estate so don't be too concerned. Although, a potential conflict of interest of the liquidator appointed is being looked at and if they find out there is conflict they will deal with that. However, initial assurances made are that there are none. It could be helpful even given the reported potential link with OVP in the past. 

* a creditors committe will be formed (separate meeting) later to oversee the renumeration of the Liquidators

* I would like to say well done to the Dean Hamlin at the Insolvency Service. They have done well so far in what they state is a very large case. The OVP related developments from which there were claims from creditors were - EBCC, G of M, Vista Rocas, Tefedna Bay (Or Royal Maroc as previously known), and some others ( around 6 or 7 in total). I just asked around the room. There were a good 6 - 7 lever arch files of claimants.

* A thank-you should be made to a certain Police officer who helped get the criminal investigtion off the ground. I was pleased to have been able to personally thank him. You know who you are mate!

* I would say for now report yourself as creditors to Dean Hamilin, give your information to the police and also the liquidator. Leave them to investigate and get on with your lives for now as best as you can.

* I did approach a few people at the meeting to try to make contacts. I am sure may were sceptical of me and my motives so I apologise for that. Let me assure you, I am genuinly trying to help. I am trying to recover my funds and will to try to help you too, if I can.

* It was good to meet simimarly affected people for some mutual support and also to help with the fight for justice, return of money and to see them have their dodgy lifestyles well and truely curtailed (one day!).  Mr V - good to talk to you - keep in touch! I will be in touch soon with those I discuss EBCC with. Mr W (and partner), D&H, BG etc

Try not to post for a while - leave this as the latest post for a while for people to read over the next few days as I think that may be the most helpful thing to do for now and is the most up-to-date information. You can PM me with questions altugh I will be off-line  from 3.00 pm onward today.

Regards

Joey123

This message was last edited by joey123 on 06/06/2009.

This message was last edited by joey123 on 07/06/2009.

Can anyone who has completed on this site and who has ongoing building problems with the houses, please contact me

I am still looking for people who  have completed on this site and who haveongoing problems to contact me please as we have major drainage problems in thehouse we have purchased.

Thanks

Just to update this thread, I am still looking for any people who have completed on Vista de la Rocas, who have had or are still having ongoing problems with the drainage/sewage system and any damp in their property because of this.

We are having difficulty getting the developer to admit any fault and repair.

Thanks

Hi Kernow,

Sorry I havnt posted before, I saw your post and thought about it but as I dont have something 100% useful to say I didnt bother. Basically I completed at Vistas and yes I had plumbing issues. But I knew a year back that OVP were a bunch of shisters and also twigged the developer was going to dodge any work, so I just paid to get the work done myself. I used jim at Pipetek who I would recommend 1000% as he is English and has an English worth ethic if you know what I mean!

He did it all for me, liasing with my letting agent and sorted all the work out no real fuss, cant remember the full tab but its wasnt that horrific, (its all relative) so if you have had a few quotes or are still looking I would give jim a nudge, just google pipetek and you'll find him.

As above its not a great answer as you have to pay for the work yourselef ,just the realist in me feels you will do well to get the developer to pay for it, and yes I know OVP offered a 10 year building gaurantee but we have all found you can wipe your arse with most of what OVP said! So its best just to get any issues sorted out and rent it asap to get some cash coming in

hope this helps and if you wanna chat to me feel free to pm me, think we may have chatted about other stuff in the past

Alex