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15 Oct 2013 10:24 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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To answer that question, this is how it should work -

 

The hierarchy is such that the major decisions should be made by an assembly of presidents at either level 1 or level 2, the responsibly of level 3 is restricted to their particular garden/block and as the voice of the owner at level 2 upwards.
 
There are a set of statutes at level 1, 2 and 3 which define the services and areas that each level is responsible for.  The Level 3 has complete authority within his garden and should be that one that approves all activities that are solely confined within that level 3.   for example if tiles need replacing in a communal area, is a fence needs repairs or light fitting need changing then only the level 3 presidents needs to be consulted and the authority for those expenditures would lay with him.  
 
For the services of level 2 then ALL decisions with be made with the consultation of all the level 3 presidents within that level 2.  if you will probably be familiar with the RACI matrix you could relate it as ;-
  the level 2 presidents would be responsible and accountable, the level 3 consulted and the owners informed.
 
For all services of level 1, which is restricted to the shared infrastructure resort wide, all decisions should be made by the board of level 1 which incorporates all the level 2 presidents.  The statutes of level 1 give the level 1 president pretty much absolute power but there are agreements that all presidents should be involved in the decision making process.   So by the statutes  the level 1 president would be responsible and accountable, the level 2 consulted and the level 2 informed.  The local agreement ( called the Protocol agreement ) would change this to the level 2 presidents would be responsible, level 2 and the level 3 consulted and the owners informed.


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16 Oct 2013 12:15 AM by Redrose Star rating in Norwich. 233 forum posts Send private message

16 Oct 2013 12:28 PM by Danseex Star rating in Los Naranjos J4 n253. 652 forum posts Send private message

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I Agree with Phil, the info regarding IRM seeking protection from creditors and facing bankruptcy should be taken seriously, could be big trouble ahead for Al Kasar and the Golf course if this is the case, how ironic that the banks that were saddled with Polaris debt have now been taken down themselves sad

Anyone have more info on this?




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16 Oct 2013 1:31 PM by elarado Star rating in Las Cañadas - a nice.... 63 forum posts Send private message

kitchenman- the original theme of the thread was regarding the lack of communication – the passing of information!

I posted the link as I thought it fitted with “original theme”!

I think your comment on 15th @ 22:16:00, is a classic case of the “kettle calling the pot black ass”!

 

 

Think you should all take heed of ptan, he is the only poster who has elaborated on the many complex issues regarding the running and management of Condado.

The full impact of the current IRM situation will not be known for some time – if it even effects you at all - just make sure you have the information you need.

I also think ptan is a “sad b_____d” – spending all that time studying the operating documentation of Condado when he could be enjoying himself………

 

For those who do not understand the above is “una broma”…………..




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16 Oct 2013 1:40 PM by Redrose Star rating in Norwich. 233 forum posts Send private message

Woah, Elarado!! Who says Ptan doesnt know this from his days as L1??? We are all pretty sad @@@@@@@@ for worrying about anything on here the more time we bicker among ourselves..the more the powers that be in Ml get away with! If we didnt have Ptan to keep us informed on these matters who would we have?? If I had a copy of Condado's operating docs...i'd read a little more myself!



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16 Oct 2013 1:52 PM by faulky444 Star rating in Rossendale, Lancashi.... 399 forum posts Send private message

If IRM went bust then that must surely be an opportunity for our community to take over the golf course and Al Kasar. We could make it pay a I bet there are people in the popular golf society who could run it or at least advise on it. A different pricing structure and modern promotion would bring in more custom. Might not be such a bad thing, every cloud..........


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