I thought HD boxes were only limited to Thomson and Pace units?
As they say you learn something every day....
4 sky HD boxes: Amstrad, Pace, Thonsons, Samsungs.
I prefer the Paces myself - slightly faster and better performing tuner....
And I too still cant get used to the new EPG - takes a while to know all the key presses for it....
Basic or Sky+ boxes will not be getting anything new...they just do not have the onboard memory capacity to handle the new EPG....infact some older sky boxes were built only for 200-300 channels not the 500 plus available today!!