23 Jan 2013 7:22 PM:

 Roly you have a very outdated view of Britain's ethnic minorities - maybe you've been away too long. Yes most immigrants to Britain came from the 'Old Commonwealth' 50-60 years ago but guess what has happened in the meantime? They've had kids and their kids have had kids and so on. The point is, whether you like it or not, that current generation are also citizens of the EU and not 'immigrants'. Unless your definition of immigrant is anyone who is non-white?

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23 Jan 2013 5:40 PM:

 Bob 

Towns like Luton, Birmingham, Leicester, Bradford and many sections of London are swamped by SE Asians and Africans, west Indians etc, not EU.

The BNP might agree with this but the reality is very different. Most of the racial groups you mentioned are 'settled communities' of third and fourth generation who make these cities vibrant and interesting as well as making a strong contribution to local economies. Curiously enough they are also EU citizens  

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23 Jan 2013 3:33 PM:

 An extremist from the left would have a very different belief from one from the far right.

 

Isn't that the same with every debate, regardless of the issue? Like I said, the Pro-EU lobby needs to present a case that is grounded in fact and use credible representatives from business and academia to articulate this.

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23 Jan 2013 3:26 PM:

 I am not suggesting that MPs present the pro-EU case Woodbug but people like business leaders and academics maybe.

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23 Jan 2013 3:11 PM:

 Fair enough have a debate or even a vote about Britain's relationship with the EU but not something as extreme as a referendum on membership. But as someone has already said, the argument for staying in has never been properly articulated due to the noisy sceptic rantings of the Tory right and Tory press. I would welcome a calm and measured presentation of the real benefits of European membership. It would surely win the day then.

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