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Concentrating particularly on Catalan culture, history and language and paying attention to the current independence process. I wil also be including excerpts from my forthcoming book 'Catalonia Is Not Spain: A Historical Perspective'

Was Christopher Columbus Catalan?
Wednesday, September 24, 2014 @ 1:23 PM

The origins of Christopher Columbus are shrouded in mystery and show characteristics of a political cover-up. What seems extremely clear is that the idea of a humble Genoese wool weaver's son gaining favour with kings and leading an expensive expedition to discover the New World is highly implausible.

Was he Catalan? I am strongly inclined to think so but, although I present all the pro-Catalan arguments here, I have to admit that as far as international historians are concerned the jury is out. However, what might appear to be a slight tangent in the book's argument is worth recounting because it is a clear example of history being rewritten to favour the Castilian oligarchy.

The first time it occurred to me that Christopher Columbus might be Catalan was over 20 years ago whilst reading Robert Hughes' account of the building of the Columbus Monument at the bottom of La Rambla in his immense 'Barcelona', written just prior to the 1992 Barcelona Olympic Games.

"The presence of Columbus - Colom, to give him his Catalan name - requires some explanation today, but in 1882, the year Rius i Taulet commissioned the monument, it was self-evident. Columbus did have connections with Barcelona: he recuperated from his first voyage there and was received by Ferdinand and Isabella, who bestowed on him the plangent title of Almirante del Mar Oceano - Admiral of the Ocean Sea ... Late-nineteenth-century Catalans were convinced, as an article of patriotic faith, that Columbus was Catalan himself. (He was in fact Genoese.) Not only that: he was the Catalan who discovered the New World from whose subsequent plunder by Castile all future Catalans, at least until the time of the indianos, were excluded. It has never been lost on Barcelona that Columbus ... is pointing out to sea with his back towards Castile. Because of the inconvenient configuration of the coast, he is pointing in the general direction of Libya, not America, but the sea is Catalan. In order to reinforce Columbus's incipient catalanisme, the designer ... covered the plinth with ... figures symbolizing the role played by other Catalans in the discovery of America - the Blanes family, for instance, or the priest Bernat de Bol, who went on the Discoverer's second voyage and became the first apostolic vicar of the West Indies."

At the time I paid little attention apart from adding the fact that the Columbus statue was pointing out to Libya to my growing list of Barcelona trivia.

After Dinner Talk

Then a couple of years ago, a friend who had just come back from a holiday in the Caribbean came round for lunch and over coffee started talking about her visit to the British-controlled island of Montserrat. "That was when I realised Columbus had to be Catalan," she exclaimed. "After all, why would a Genoese sailor in the employment of the Crown of Castile call one of his discoveries after a religious mountain in the centre of Catalonia?"

This got us thinking and we quickly came up with Antilles, which loosely translates as 'Before Islands', presumably meaning the islands you come to before you reach the mainland. The word for islands in Catalan is illes whereas it is islas in Spanish. Similarly, the country Argentina uses the Catalan word for silver argent rather than the Spanish plata in its name.

These after-dinner reflections were a long way from solid evidence but my curiosity and been pricked and I decided to look into the Columbus story a little more closely.  To my surprise, there was a growing mass of literature on whether Christopher Columbus was Catalan or not.

The Conventional Story

According to legend, Christopher Columbus was born in 1451 in the Italian Republic of Genoa and his Italian name is Cristoforo Colombo while in Spanish he's known as Cristóbal Colón. His father was a humble wool weaver who worked both in Genoa and Savona and who also owned a cheese stand where young Cristoforo worked as a helper.

In 1473, Columbus began his apprenticeship as business agent for the important Centurione, Di Negro and Spinola families of Genoa, and in May 1476  took part in an armed convoy sent by Genoa to carry a valuable cargo to northern Europe. On the trip, he docked in Bristol, England and Galway, Ireland and possibly in Iceland. In the autumn of 1477 Columbus sailed  from Galway to Lisbon, where he met up with his brother Bartolomeo, and the two brothers continued trading for the Centurione family.

Apparently, Columbus was intelligent but self-taught and, as a result of his work with merchants and early sea voyages, he became interested in finding an alternative sea route to the Indies and China. In 1485, Columbus presented plans to João II, King of Portugal proposing that the king equip three sturdy ships and grant him a year to sail out into the Atlantic in search of a western route to the Orient.

Columbus also requested he be made "Great Admiral of the Ocean", appointed governor of any and all lands he discovered, and given one-tenth of all revenue from those lands. The story goes that the king submitted Columbus' proposal to his experts, who rejected it because they believed that Columbus' estimation of a travel distance of 2,400 miles was far too low.

On being rebuffed, Columbus sought an audience from the monarchs Fernando II of Aragon and Isabel I of Castile and on 1 May 1486 he presented his plans to Queen Isabel, who also referred them to a committee. After much consideration, the savants of Spain, like their counterparts in Portugal, replied that Columbus had grossly underestimated the distance to Asia. They pronounced the idea impractical and advised their Majesties to pass on the proposed venture.

However, legend has it that after persistent lobbying at the Spanish court and two years of negotiations, Columbus finally had success and in April 1492 at the Capitulations of Santa Fe, King Fernando and Queen Isabel agreed that if he succeeded he would be given the rank of Admiral of the Ocean Sea and appointed hereditary Viceroy and Governor of all the new lands he could claim for Spain.

Columbus would have the right to nominate three persons, from whom the sovereigns would choose one, for any office in the new lands. He would be entitled to 10% of all the revenues from the new lands in perpetuity. Additionally, he would also have the option of buying one-eighth interest in any commercial venture with the new lands and receive one-eighth of the profits.

I Have My Doubts

This zero to hero story of a poor Genoese wool weavers' son even getting access to, not only one but, two of the most powerful courts in Christendom seems a bit far-fetched to me. Furthermore, not content with having the journey financed and equipped for him, this humble pauper set conditions on the hereditary titles he would receive and how his discoveries would be distributed.

The Columbus of legend had no formal studies yet apparently learnt Latin, Portuguese, and Castilian and there are surviving documents written in all of these but none in Italian or the Genoese dialect. In fact, most of his writings are in Castilian and linguists suggest that they are, in fact, translations from another peninsula language, possibly Catalan or Galician.

For some reason, the story has Columbus born in 1451 but according to his own writings he was already leading maritime expeditions in the 1460s when young Cristoforo Colombo would have only been 15 or 16. Similarly, not only did a commoner get the Catholic kings to finance his expedition and provide him with three ships and crew, most of whom were Spanish not Portuguese or Genoese where he would likely have had more friends, but they also offered him the rank of Admiral and the title of Viceroy and Governor of all the new lands he discovered. Ferdinand and Isabella obviously had a lot of faith in the young Italian's abilities.

Titles such as Viceroy and Governor were only ever given to members of the Castilian or Aragonese nobility, never to foreigners and certainly in Aragon at the time the position of Viceroy, who would rule in the monarch's place, had only ever been given to members of the royal family.

More Research

I knew from the description of the plinth of the Columbus Monument in Barcelona that, in the 1880s, the Mayor and the City Council had believed Christopher Columbus and many of his companions to be Catalan. You only have to scratch the surface to find out how common the theory is. The first important publication on the subject was written in 1927 by the Peruvian historian Luis de Ulloa, who claimed that Christopher Columbus was a Catalan named Joan Colom, who after years of captaining pirate vessels established himself in Portugal and changed his name to Xristoferens Colomo.

Since the return of democracy in 1975, there have been other studies including a comparison of the Coats of Arms of the noble Barcelona family of Colom i Bertran and the official Coat of Arms of Christopher Columbus and both were found to include stripes, a rampant lion and a globe with a cross on top but the dove present on the Colom i Bertran Coat of Arms was missing the Columbus crest.

Coincidentally, the word dove is translated as colom in Catalan and according to testimonies in the court cases that the Columbus family brought against the Spanish monarchs for breaking their word on the hereditary titles promised at the Capitulations of Santa Fe, was initially present on the Columbus Coat of Arms. However, it was removed by Castilian censors in later versions presumably because it would have given away Columbus' true identity.

In 1976, another study showed that the four Colom Bertran brothers, Guillem, Francesc, Joan and Lluís, were clearly contemporaries of the Admiral. However, it wasn't until 1999 that the researchers from the Institut Nova Història led by Jordi Bilbeny began to pull the various threads together into a coherent whole. What follows is a much simplified version of the conclusions but gives a reasonably clear idea of their claims.

Joan Colom i Bertran

According to Bilbeny and his team, Christopher Columbus' real name was Joan Colom i Bertran from a Barcelona family of high-ranking religious or military men, navigators, cosmographers or merchants with access to the Court. His brothers, Francesc and Lluís were President of the Generalitat and a sea-captain respectively so the family had important political connections and maritime experience. Joan Colom had more brothers and sisters including Jaume, Guillem, Elionor, Isabel and Beatriu. All these names also appear in the official Christopher Columbus' family tree in their castilianised versions. Furthermore, Joan Colom had a son called Jaume whilst Columbus' son was called Diego, which is the medieval translation of Jaume in Castilian.

Joan Colom was born in 1424 and married twice. His first wife was Margarida d'Alós, with whom he had three sons, and his second Felipa de Coimbra, who was daughter of Pere of Portugal and of Elisabet of Urgell, which made her granddaughter of Jaume of Urgell, the failed Catalan pretender to the Aragonese throne.

Joan Colom had been a military leader on the side of the Generalitat in the Catalan Civil War against Fernando the Catholic's father Juan the Faithless during which time the Catalans had made Pere of Portugal their king. Following the defeat, Joan escaped and led pirate attacks off the coast of Catalonia on military and merchant targets before ending up in the service of Louis XI of France for whom he led expeditions into the Arctic. It seems very likely the Joan Colom would have visited North America so he knew of the existence of another continent across the Atalantic and reasoned that the rich pickings would be further south. This was why he could be so confident in his demands to the Portuguese and Spanish monarchs.

In the 1480s, Joan Colom wound up at the Potuguese court where he fell in love with Felipa, the sister of his deceased former ally, Pere of Portugal. They had a son called Ferran, who as great-grandson of Jaume of Urgell would have definitely had a claim to the throne of Aragon. Incidentally, Ferran is translated as Fernando or Hernando in Castilian and sure enough, the official Christopher Columbus had a son called Hernando.

For patriotic reasons, Joan Colom wanted to lead his expedition to the New World from Catalonia and, taking advantage of the amnesty for participants in the Civil War, installed himself in the port of Pals on the coast of Northern Catalonia. Negotiations began mainly with Fernando of Aragon in order to guarantee the benefits and hereditary titles, which would allow Colom to establish what would effectively be a new royal family in the New World. In return, Bilbeny suggests, Colom would have renounced his son Ferran's claims to the throne of the Crown of Aragon.

In August 1492, the expedition set sail from the Catalan port of Pals. The Spanish version claims Columbus embarked from Palos de la Frontera in Andalusia but recent studies show that as today, its port, which is set on a river estuary, was certainly not big enough to moor three large ocean-going ships. Furthermore, many of Columbus' companions are documented as living in the Empordà region of Catalonia and of being known to the Colom i Bertran family. The best example is the famous Yañes Pinzón brothers who in Catalan were Anes Pinçon.

In early engravings, most of the flags the ships carry bear stripes just like the Catalan senyera whilst the Castilian flag showing the picture of a castle is suspiciously absent. The flags cannot be Spanish flags because the red stripes on the gold background of the rojigualda wasn't invented until 1785. Incidentally, when you stop and think about it, the Spanish flag looks much more like the Catalan senyera than it does the Castilian flag. Perhaps the design was chosen to protect Castilian territorial claims to the Americas.

Censorship

There is so much evidence that Columbus and Colom were the same person and the reasons why the story was changed are pretty obvious. Colom's descendants were of royal descent and as soon as the Catholic Kings realised how much power they had given away at the Capitulations of Santa Fe and the size and wealth of the new territory, they knew they had made a mistake.

Fernando, in particular, was autocratic enough to have introduced the Inquisition so they would have had few qualms about breaking their deal with some rebellious Catalan nobles. Furthermore, the printing press was just beginning to come to centre stage and someone as capable as Fernando would have realised the power of propaganda. Unfortunately, the censors left traces of the cover-up and eagle-eyed researchers can still find them to this day.

The only remaining question is why did a Barcelona noble called Joan change his name to Christopher or Cristòfor in Catalan. The answer is simple. These were religious times and the current pope was the Valencian Alexander VI of the Borja family, who as a Catalan speaker would have known Joan Colom. The reason for the expedition wasn't only commercial but was to take Christianity across the water just as Saint Christopher had carried Jesus across the river in the Bible tale.

An interesting footnote to Catalan Columbus mystery came in 2011 when Spanish researchers collected the DNA of the families of the various claimants and the plan was to make a comparison with the DNA of Hernando Colón whose body lies in Seville Cathedral. As the research was drawing to a close, lead investigator Dr José Antonio Lorente was interviewed on Catalan TV and said that the Catalan hypothesis looked the most likely. Mysteriously, the research was never heard of again and the results still haven't been published.

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eos_ian said:
Wednesday, September 24, 2014 @ 12:42 PM

Extremely interesting Simon. Thanks for taking the effort to post it. Look forward to reading more.


ufotour said:
Saturday, September 27, 2014 @ 10:29 AM

This is very interesting - but has one major flaw - if he was born in 1424 he would have been 68 when he left for the New World and also in his 60's when he supposedly "fell in love with Felipa and had a son called Ferran". The latter claim is possible but that someone would set sail on a voyage into the unknown at the age of 68 - and indeed, be given money to do so seems highly unlikely - especially after a tough life. Also - how old would he have been during his second and third voyages? Well into his seventies. In the medieval world that would be equivalent to being in one's 90's these days.


REEDS said:
Saturday, September 27, 2014 @ 10:30 AM

I love mysteries. Here are a few added comments you might like (or not) from books I have read on origins. There is a village on Gibraltar that has the history of being a Genoese village. The original Italian villagers all packed up and left their native country, due to high taxes, and settled on the Mediterranean side of Gibraltar around that time. I believe Spain still owned it then.

The other fact is that Portugal was the lead in map making and most expeditions and merchants had Portuguese navigators.

I love this sort of history. History is written by the victors and we have to tools to now look at it again.


mphillips said:
Saturday, September 27, 2014 @ 11:41 AM

Very interesting thoughts. I have heard the theory that Columbus was Jewish and some of those who invested in his voyage were Jewish merchants. So it had to be 'cloak and dagger' stuff.
You can imagine how desperate the Jews were to find another
land. The Expulsion and The Inquisition were just starting in 1492.


simonharris said:
Saturday, September 27, 2014 @ 12:04 PM

There are various conflicting theories but the point is that he wasn't a Genoese weavers' son, which calls into question any official history fabricated by the Crown of Castile/Inquisition of the time.

ufotour ... that's the very point ... contrary to the popular image was a grand old man of the sea ... that's why he got the money and he had to go as the surviving member of a royal line!


simonharris said:
Saturday, September 27, 2014 @ 12:04 PM

There are various conflicting theories but the point is that he wasn't a Genoese weavers' son, which calls into question any official history fabricated by the Crown of Castile/Inquisition of the time.

ufotour ... that's the very point ... contrary to the popular image was a grand old man of the sea ... that's why he got the money and he had to go as the surviving member of a royal line!


ufotour said:
Saturday, September 27, 2014 @ 12:49 PM

Hi Simon - I take your point - but have you seen the actual size of the Caravels in Huelva? - they're pretty small The Pinta is only just over 50 foot long. You'd think twice before crossing the channel on it! Very hard to believe that a man of what in today's equivalent age would be about 90/95 would be strong enough to contemplate such a voyage...let alone lead it. He also explored some of the lands he discovered - and by the third and 4th voyages he would have been close to 80. He wouldn't have been old - he'd have been ancient.


BHTHE said:
Saturday, September 27, 2014 @ 2:30 PM

It is quite clear the ship has a knights Templar flag on the Top of the mast, he was at least from Northern Spain, I read somewhere his descendants were Scottish and they have been going to the USA since medieval times as far back as the Vikings from Greenland so probably had Maps.The hardest thing was to hit the same spot twice to re-supply if you hit the coast just 1 mile up the road you could not claim you had discovered anything, the New world was well known many years before, Roslyn chapel has Sweet corn tied back and sunflowers in it's stone work 150 years before the voyage.


simonharris said:
Saturday, September 27, 2014 @ 3:19 PM

The Knights Templar had a strong presence in Catalonia, Blythe!

Jaume I was under their tutelage and conquered Valencia with their help in 1238. There's actually a route of Templar castles in southern Catalonia.


leoleon said:
Sunday, September 28, 2014 @ 8:59 AM

Hi Simon,
A very interesting and well researched piece. Most enjoyable and intriguing.

Perhaps you might be inclined to read a book called '1421' by Gavin Menzies, a retired British Submarine Commander. He suggests that Columbus had charts to the New World provided by a Portuguese adventurer, who procured them from China. It also might explain the mysterious map of the Turkish Admiral Piri Reîs.
Cheers
Leo



rsanchezlamoso said:
Monday, September 29, 2014 @ 10:42 PM

Thanks Simon for sharing all this very interesting information. Apart from this being true or not, there are a few things incorrect. The first one is about the Catalonia´s flag, the "senyera", let´s not get confused, the senyera is the same flag as the Aragon flag. Any reference to that flag at that time, should be attributed to the flag of the Kingdom of Aragón, and Catalonia was a region part of it. In 1492, the Kingdom of Aragon and Kingdom of Castille were already united, so "Spain" was any of these regions or kingdoms. So by default if we were to beleive this story, then we will have to conclude that not only the country of Spain discovered America, but that the credit of the idea, should go to a Spaniard. I find this very hard to believe because this is such an important event in history, that the truth would have came out a long time ago. I do believe that the expedition could have been in the area of Catalonia first (kingdom of Aragon), because maps from that time show the Aragonian flag on ships, but the expedition officially left Puerto de Palos in Cádiz, and it was not carrying Aragonian flags. This is just another Catalan fabrication in their eagerness to prominence, and to be the centre of attention, they love that sfuff. Catalans hate the fact that the expedition left from Andalucía, two regions that never liked each other. And BTW, it was pretty clear that none of the sailors in the Pinta, Niña and Santa María were Catalans.


john ronald hind said:
Tuesday, September 30, 2014 @ 3:44 PM

I have lived here a long time and wonder where the port of Pals is.
All I can see there is beach.


rsanchezlamoso said:
Tuesday, September 30, 2014 @ 5:16 PM

John, Puerto de Palos is "Palos de la Frontera", which belongs to Huelva, not Cádiz (sorry about the confusion, got mixed up with Jerez de La Frontera, which belongs to Cadiz). This is where the expedition left from. Here is a reference in the Wikipedia (C.Columbus is mentioned on it): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palos_de_la_Frontera
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palos_de_la_Frontera


simonharris said:
Tuesday, September 30, 2014 @ 7:20 PM

Hi John Ronald Hind,

Apparently, many medieval documents talk of the Port of Pals but the configuration of the coast has changed considerably since the 15th century. I think it silted up as a result of a change in direction of the River Ter. Here's an example doc from 1790.

El 24 de setembre de 1790 Bartholomé Copelo capità d'un vaixell polacra que es diu “ Ntra Sra. de Monte Negro” matriculat a Jerusalem amb càrrega de botada que fa la ruta: PALS-PUERTO FINO-ANGAY-BARCELONA i diu el següent: En la ciudad de Barcelona a los veinte y nueve dias del mes de setiembre del año mil setecientos noventa: Compareció personalmente en este Tribunal Real del Consulado de Comercio de esta ciudad y provincia el capitan Bartholomé Copelo que lo es de su polacra Gerosolimitana nombrada Ntra Sra. de Monte Negro. Y digo que estando el buque bien estaño, y equipado de todo lo necesario para la navegación salió de Pals el dia veinte y dos de julio con cargo de botada y desde dicho Puerto hasta Puerto Fino por la Mañana que hallándose sobre Angay en Francia tuvo un fuerte temporal de viento...

Per tant, tenim que l'any 1790 surt un vaixell del port de Pals amb càrrega de vi, pateix una avaria i el patró interposa una queixa la qual - tal com ens explica el mateix tribunal de comerç- té una validesa notarial, a fi que li sigui dampnificada la càrrega a través probablement de l'assegurança que devia tenir contractada.


ManuelRosa said:
Saturday, December 20, 2014 @ 5:27 AM

This is an interesting article but quite flawed in its conclusions because the facts are not as claimed.

First it is important to understand that the correct name of Christopher Columbus was Cristóbal Colón and that this name, which the explorer always wrote this way "XpoFERENS ./ “ was not his true identity but an alias chosen to hide his true identity.

Unlike what has been written, the name Colon did not come from Colombo but from the Greek Kólon with the meaning of Member. The correct Latin of Colón is “Colonus” and not Columbus. Columbus is a misnomer, an error made by the Italian Bishop of Montepeloso in May 1493 in a printed letter that was sold all over Europe.
The only thing one can be certain of is that Colon/Colom/Colombo/Colonus/Columbus/Colomo, etc.were not the discoverer’s original name. This name was assumed when he entered Spain and his true identity remains a mystery.
As for the written language of Colón, all experts agree it was heavily influenced, not by catalan, but by Portuguese. http://www.religionenlibertad.com/articulo.asp?idarticulo=37935&mes=&ano=

Regarding Montserrat, You should know there is a Monserrate, in Sintra, Portugal, which gave the name to Monte Serrate in Brazil. http://www.paroquiansmonteserrate.com.br

As for the word Atilles, which is a French corruption of Antilhas, the name the Portuguese gave to the lands beyond the islands. Antilhas is made up of the Portuguese words “Ante” http://www.priberam.pt/dlpo/ante and “Ilhas” and referred to the lands opposite the Islands of the Azores. The fist map of the Antilhas was drawn in 1424 and is kept in the Bell Library at the University of Minnesota. Antilles, Antilhas, Antislas and Antilias had its roots in Portugal because only Portugal had populated there Islands in there Atlantic (Azores) that gave the name to the opposite lands.

As far as Argentina, the name comes from the latin argentum, meaning silver, which gave the Portuguese language the word “argentar” http://www.priberam.pt/dlpo/argentar same as “pratear” to coat with silver.

"Titles such as Viceroy and Governor were only ever given to members of the Castilian or Aragonese nobility, never to foreigners and certainly in Aragon at the time the position of Viceroy, who would rule in the monarch's place, had only ever been given to members of the royal family.” This is a misconstrued thought. It is true that not everyone could be a Viceroy. However, if a person was of royal blood, even if he was not from that kingdom, he could achieve such titles depending on his lineage. Such was the case of Constable Pedro of Portugal, who was given the tile of King of Aragon by his blood right and was killed in 1466.

"Christopher Columbus was a Catalan named Joan Colom, who after years of captaining pirate vessels established himself in Portugal and changed his name to Xristoferens Colomo.” This statement has no basis in fact. There is not a single record of Joan Colom living in Portugal and Cristóbal Colón never called himself “Colomo”, which comes from Colonna.

"Coincidentally, the word dove is translated as colom in Catalan and according to testimonies in the court cases that the Columbus family brought against the Spanish monarchs for breaking their word on the hereditary titles promised at the Capitulations of Santa Fe, was initially present on the Columbus Coat of Arms. However, it was removed by Castilian censors in later versions presumably because it would have given away Columbus' true identity.”

Unfortunately this is false information presented by Baltazar Colombo, an Italian who wanted to steal Colón inheritance in the late 1500s and goes complexity against the facts of Colón coat of arms which was drawn in 1493 but Castile King of Arms and signed by Queen Isabel. Furthermore, as stated above, although Colom does mean dove in Catalan, as stated above, the word Colon, as stated above, mean remember in Greek and does not mean dove.

"In the 1480s, Joan Colom wound up at the Potuguese court where he fell in love with Felipa, the sister of his deceased former ally, Pere of Portugal.” This statement of pure fantasy, the Duke of Coimbra’s daughter never married Felipa de Coimbra lived as a nun in the Mosteiro de Odeivelas and died in 1493. http://geneall.net/pt/nome/354667/d-filipa-de-lancastre/

"An interesting footnote to Catalan Columbus mystery came in 2011 when Spanish researchers collected the DNA of the families of the various claimants and the plan was to make a comparison with the DNA of Hernando Colón whose body lies in Seville Cathedral.” Actually, I was involved with this DNA study and the first bones were collected in 2003 and the tests were long done before 2011. http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v20/n2/full/ejhg2011162a.html


I have spent the last 23 years combing through the life of Cristóbal Colón and one thing is obvious, the courts of Portugal and Spain were involved in covering up this guys true identity. The question now is why?
Manuel Rosa
www.1492.us.com


simonharris said:
Saturday, December 20, 2014 @ 6:25 PM

Hi Manuel,

Thanks for the comment, Manual. To be perfectly honest, I have no idea whether Columbus was Catalan or not but I am certain, like you, that there was some kind of cover up. I wrote the chapter/article in order to show that the conventional version of history we receive has often been tampered with and in the version included in the book, I stress even more strongly that this is just a theory!


ManuelRosa said:
Saturday, December 20, 2014 @ 6:34 PM

I have nothing against theory I only ask that "facts" be factual.

Cheers,
Manuel


jbr said:
Saturday, January 7, 2017 @ 6:44 AM

In response to Ufotour:
In those days we have documentary records that tell us that in those times it was not unusual to find many naval commanders in their seventies and eighties. The Turks had a naval commander over the age of 90. The Institut Nova Historia has a study on this topic.
Additionally, Colom (Columbus) was a very experienced admiral, who had sailed in the service of several kings and states, well before his first voyage to the New World.
In 1492, the year he discovered the New World (America), he was 78.


jbr said:
Saturday, January 7, 2017 @ 6:44 AM

In response to Ufotour:
In those days we have documentary records that tell us that in those times it was not unusual to find many naval commanders in their seventies and eighties. The Turks had a naval commander over the age of 90. The Institut Nova Historia has a study on this topic.
Additionally, Colom (Columbus) was a very experienced admiral, who had sailed in the service of several kings and states, well before his first voyage to the New World.
In 1492, the year he discovered the New World (America), he was 78.


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