Mac's Poll - Let's Vote

Bibi said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 6:04 AM

I'm glad to see that as many as 75% hate it. Cruelty to animals cannot be continued just because it's a tradition.

deecoco said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 7:32 AM

Cruel. barbaric inhuman. My only experience was when I was in my naive 20´s and on my first visit to Spain. Visiting the Bull ring in Barcelona... 7 bulls and not one clean kill. One bull was tortured to death the matador had numerous attempts until they came into the ring and slit its throat. Im now in my 70´s and it has lived with me all my life.Not to mention visiting the stables afterwards and seeing the state of the horses... Disgraceful and disgusting

Brian said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 7:33 AM

The Spanish are renown for their bad treatment of animals.
Unfortunately I'm English and come from the opposite point. I hate the idea of bullfighting
However I choose to live in Spain and love the Place and its People
So I guess I should not tell them how to behave.
BUT I still hate bullfighting and any animal cruelty.

Andrew said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 8:47 AM

Quite simply I believe that anyone who is a meat eater is by definition a hypocrite if they state that they abhor bullfighting.

I know that 2 wrongs dont make a right.....

However, an intensively farmed animal, often cooped up all day in a miserable existence, suffers a far, far worse life than a toro bravo. It is said that a typical human consumes 10 bovine creatures in their life. They therefore effectively kill 10 as a result of their demands. If people could see the life these animals have had for arond 18 months, and the horrific way they are often killed (for efficiency's sake and/or bad killing technique) they would think again.

Most people just see the juicy steak in a chiller at the supermaket - and think no further. They think it magically grew and appeared there. It's what is known as either stupidity, or burying ones head in the sand. You decide which camp you fall into.

A toro bravo is treated like a lord for up to 7 years on the other hand. It roams free on the plains prior to it's 30 minutes in the ring. They have a life. If bullfighting were to be banned they wouldnt even be born (you dont think breeders wiould continue to breed them and keep them as pets do you? Really?)

Think again folks - it's very glib and hollow, and highlights your ignorance, to be so pious if you are a meat eater. You effectively kill 10 cows, plus lots of lambs, chickens, pigs etc in your lifetime as a result of your demand for meat to sustain you. Go and ask your local abatoir if you can spend a few hours watching what goes on in there. However be prepared to be told to politely F*** off! They do not want you to know - believe me - I've seen it.

Hopefully this has made some of you think a little.....

We dont see over 50% of Spaniards protesting that their meat has been killed in the way it has. Do we?

What a strange world.

sandy said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 9:00 AM

beef for food is killed instantly, bullfighting bulls go through a series of disabling attacks until they are to weak to defend themselves, ban it. Let the matadors fight it out with their little swords.

Angie said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 9:38 AM

It's a despicable act of cruelty. While I think it's important to keep tradition alive this is one which is inhumane and should be banned. And as for the man prancing around in pretty tights actually having balls, I would agree if the bull hadn't been severely weakened beforehand-research some of the things they do-just as shocking as the barbs in the back, tormenting, sword through the heart or the sawing at the spinal chord of they can't make a clean kill. The horses also suffer a terrible fate. The 'protective' cloth doesn't do much and their insides are often ripped out. You won't hear many scream though as their vocal chords have been tampered with. Well done deecoco for bringing the plight of the horses to light also.
Andrew, as a vegetarian I agree with much of what you say. For me any kind of animal cruelty saddens me deeply and as I have seen what happens in an abattoir (sometimes quick, sometimes not at all!!, but stressful nonetheless) I can not eat meat. And although the bulls may well live like lords, there is no denying their end is horrible! One comment I have always been sick of as a vegetarian is that cows etc wouldn't be bred anyone if everyone was veggie (or the bulls if bullfighting stopped). They are not natural breeds, man has created them and if there were less in the world we wouldn't have so many greenhouse gases!
When I lived in Barcelona I was at a large,very peaceful bullfight demonstration and couldn't believe the stupidity and violence of some of the supporters-one elderly lady said to me 'oh you stupid girl, the bull doesn't feel pain, it enjoys it as he dies proudly'. Another man on coming out tried to punch me in the face (I am small and a girl) as I said he enjoyed cruelty. I think if people are taught that this kind of bloody cruelty is ok, it makes the heart cold and any act of violence seems normal.

winemama said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 10:12 AM

I for one don't care how 'artistic' the death of a bull is - it's still tortuous to wound and weaken an animal before killing it!

Peeps said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 10:29 AM

I have been to a bullfight and would go again. How many of the "anti" voters have actually witnessed a bullfight and therefore speak from knowledge.

Armchair critics? Get involved and speak from first hand experience not some idealogical pulpit!

catalanbrian said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 12:30 PM

Bullfighting, or for that matter maltreatment of any animal for the enjoyment of the crowd, cannot be justified on any level whatsoever. Stop babbling about tradition, that is a nonsense and is no excuse. Dog fighting, for example, was a tradition in Britain many years ago but we grew up and banned it. In some societies Female Genital Mutilation (or "female circumcision" as it is often referred to) is a tradition. Who thinks that it is OK for those societies to continue this just because it is a "tradition"?

And in answer to "Peeps". No idealogical pulpit here. Many years ago I went to a bullfight in San Feliu de Guixoles in Catalunya, concluded that it was barbaric, never went again and have since argued against bullfighting. Fortunately the Catalans have seen the light and have banned bullfighting in Catalunya.

Finally, in response to Andrew's comment I agree that many farm animals are treated poorly but to use this as an argument in favour of bullfighting is fatuous in the extreme. Both are wrong. It is up to us consumers to demand that the meat we eat is from animals that have been treated well and is humanely killed, but regrettably most of us are not prepared to pay the proper price for that meat.

Andrew said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 12:30 PM

Sandy

How incredibly naïve to think that all slaughtered animals in abattoirs are killed ‘instantly’!

Are you an expert? Have you ever seen inside one, let alone worked in one? This shows your blind ignorance, and blissful state, if I may say so.

Even if they were killed instantly – what about the conditions they have been kept in previously? All that misery before death - just so you and your ilk can enjoy a nice steak or roast. Mentally and physically these farmed beasts have been abused before death – believe me!

I don’t think you will like this next bit, however, by definition, if you are a meat eater then you are (a large) part of the ‘killing chain’.

Fully respect to Angie though, who, as a vegetarian, can comment without being two-faced.

Andrew said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 12:37 PM

Catalanbrian, you have totally misread my post. Nowhere do I say I am pro-bullfighting.

However, if you care to re-read it (carefully this time please), you will see I am making a point about those who are meat eaters who seem to miss the point that they are effectively killers themselves.

I also, you will discover, continue by explaining that, at best, these beasts live a miserably abused life before slaughter, and that quite often they have horrendous tortuous deaths in abattoirs. All because human beings enjoy their steak – at the best possible prices.

Angie, as a true vegetarian, is, in my opinion, entitled to speak out. However, anyone who, by their nutrition demands on the food chain, eats meat – is a killer of animals and therefore a major component in the chain of misery that a young beast suffers until slaughter for the table.

D J F said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 12:40 PM

There some very arrogant people on this forum speaking out against bull fighting.
How would you feel if a Spaniard went to the UK and said that Crufts was cruel because the breeding is unnatural, bull dog type dogs can hardly breathe in order to satisfy Kennel Club judges standards.
I think the Spaniard would be told to mind his own business, this is what we do in the UK.
Have an opinion on bull fighting but don't be so arrogant as to demonstrate and campaign to have it banned. You are a guest in Spain.

catalanbrian said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 12:59 PM

Andrew, we are perhaps both guilty of not reading each others postings. Reread my final sentence for my views on the treatment of animals. Animal cruelty is animal cruelty, whether it be on the farm, at the abbatoir, in the bullring or anywhere else. There is, however no inconsistency in being a meat eater and being anti bullfighting, provided that you ensure that the meat that you eat comes from humanely reared and slaughtered animals. And that means paying a lot more for it.

catalanbrian said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 1:04 PM

DJF. I am British and I agree that the dog breeding industry as exemplified by Crufts is cruel, and if a Spaniard was to criticise Crufts I would applaud them! And you should be aware that unnatural dog breeding is not an exclusively British pastime. The Spanish also do it (as do the French, the Germans the...........).

manxmonkey said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 1:30 PM

Peeps, what a pathetic trite apology. Look mate if you want to go watch an already disabled animal be chased by a group of drag artists around a usually baking hot dust bowl until it's painful death is dragged out in front of a medieval baying mob then just do it. And as for anyone else who says, "Ooh I live in Spain now and daren't criticize them" stop being pathetic, literally pathetic. You don't have to become a crazy animal liberationist or anything but for God's sake don't be so mealy mouthed. I don't know any Spaniards who go to or support bullfights. To suggest that all Spaniards are cruel to animals is racist nonsense.

manxmonkey said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 1:40 PM

DJF thanks for the laugh. brilliant. I had to extend it slightly and thought, "Ooh I'm so sensitive I'd hang myself if someone laughed at our Morris Dancing or criticised anything. Ooh boo hoo" - Of course no sensible person would mind a Spaniard / Japanese / Congolese or man from the moon complaining about Crufts / boxing / fox hunting etc. We are a generally well educated racially mixed country not really sensitive to criticism and hopefully still enjoying a freedom of speech and open intelligent discussion. Personally I abhor the practice of breeding dogs which may have health problems. I used to run an animal rescue centre and still have a huge German Shepherd not "low enough at the back" to show - GOOD he'll enjoy a longer happier and healthier life. Thanks for reminding us of the cruelty of silly dog and cat breeders and I'll remind you all never to buy a dog please - there are so many in need of a home anyway.

David H said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 2:17 PM

The bull isn't fighting, it's trying it defend itself whilst being tormented to death. The horses used in the arena are terrified; these intelligent and sensitive animals don't know what it's all about; they don't eat meat!
We've surely moved on a bit since the Ancient Romans put to death millions of wild animals in one-sided 'contests', not to mention the gladiators themselves if they weren't crowd pleasers.
Maybe as a first step the bull 'fighter' should be put to the sword for failing to make a clean kill!!f

Roy Leon said:
Saturday, August 24, 2013 @ 2:29 PM

I saw my first Bullfight in La Linea many years ago (1964 ish) I was not appalled I was terrified. it was the training ground for Toreadors and they didn't have an easy time of it. Of the six fights the bulls won 4. Two Matadors were carried off on stretchers. One bull was despatched by a little guy who looked like a farmer in blue denim type dress and espadrilles. He just walked up t o the bull and with a very small knife, despatched the mighty bull in a fraction of a second. Albeit that the bull was severely wounded by severed neck muscles.We were nevertheless impressed with the ease he sent the animal to the next world. We sat near the front and the bull was enormous and ferocious. We moved back several rows.Without the fights this type of bull would become extinct. I know, So who cares..? Well some do gooder society will be shaking tins in the streets in an effort to provide homes for neglected and unwanted Bulls.
I suspect that the majority of votes against the bull fight were from Brits.
These would be the same Brits that own a dog in Spain and when they go back to Brit land they let their beloved and faithful dog loose on the Motorway and drive off at speed. The result doesn't need explaining.
Bullfighting is an old and revered tradition of the Spanish. They understand it and know how to deal with it. If the Spanish people ever come to a majority feeling against it, then, they and ONLY they should abolish it.
The Sanctimonious North and West would best let local issues be resolved by local people, and I mean ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Especially the Mid East.
Yours sincerely
Leo

Del Fuller said:
Sunday, August 25, 2013 @ 6:38 PM

Like all blood sports, there seems to be little chance for the poor animal invloved. OK it's a Spanish tradition but we are supposed to be living in more enlightened times and like some of our own outdated English pursuits I think it's about time we called it a day.

Lizzie said:
Monday, August 26, 2013 @ 2:23 PM

My husband is Spanish and enjoys shooting as his main hobby. He grew up watching bullfights on tv, it's the kind of thing that's on in the background in many homes. He went to his first 'live' bullfight about five years ago....and said that he would never go again. He said that it was a shameful way to kill an animal.

Spain should be ashamed at the way they continue with bullfights. I remember a programme on Spanish tv a few years back which came up with about 80% of people voting against it. The tides are changing, the Spanish population is getting it's head out of the sand and they are waking up. European subsidies meant for farming is being spent on this 'sport' which is shameful. A few get rich whilst the country falls apart.

Spain should ban it and start to toe the european line. Spain have a fantastic football team, tennis players, golfers, judo, motorbikers, racing drivers... why do they need bullfighting?

I remember seeing a picture of a bull ring being used for the Red Bull motorbike event and it looked great, a fantastic arena for a non gory event!! Wake up Spain!

Lizzie said:
Monday, August 26, 2013 @ 2:25 PM

ps, I've been vegetarian from a very young age but my family eat meat.

I buy our food from local suppliers...it costs a bit more (and let me tell you thanks to our blooming Spanish property mortgage we are on a very tight budget) but..it feels good to do the right thing. We are lucky to live in fantastic Ireland and buy locally reared and killed beef. Live transportation of animals should also be banned in my opinion. Buy local and buy with a conscience.

tvnick said:
Wednesday, August 28, 2013 @ 1:44 PM

Peeps so by your logic to be against say kicking a dog up and down the street i would actually have to be involved in doing so before i say its cruel and have an opinion on it

Gioia said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 11:39 AM

I think it is stupid, cruel and completely unuseful, spain should bann it now and foreverer

Melsfirdale said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 11:45 AM

This is barbaric tortuous and cruel. A tradition? This type of tradition was practised during times when people were SAVAGES and sadly their mentalities have not progressed. To torture any animal is so vile and heinous it beggars belief! Spain is supposed to be a Christian and Catholic country. Hypocrites - where is the love and compassion shown which was taught by Jesus Christ in all this? These beautiful bulls are at the mercy of human scum armed with spears! The bulls have already been abused and provoked for days prior to entering the bull ring including vaseline in their eyes! How can a so-called civilised educated people be so cruel and barbaric - only one answer they are uncivilised and barbaric! Those supporting it and those making money have their hands covered in blood! In my opinion they are sick, vile to indulge in this 'low life' and vile spectacle! Sickening to the core!

Alison Gilbert said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 12:13 PM

a horrendous 'tradition' and what's cultured about cruelty to animals :(

Alexander Zarjitsmy said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 12:53 PM

POLL: What is your view on Bullfighting?

catalanbrian said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 1:01 PM

Melsfirdale. Ok so you don't like bullfighting any more than I do, but I am not sure that an offensive rant like yours where you attack the entire nation is at all helpful.

Debby camille said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 1:24 PM

Theses 'humans' are NEANDERTHALS.

sk said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 2:06 PM

Stoning someone to death is still a tradition and it should be banned like this barbaric practice.

Nima said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 2:06 PM

Let move on with civilization and stop this barbaric cruel practice!
Besides killing a defenseless tormented animals does not do much for your tiny penises, you would still be a prick!

Angye said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 2:59 PM

Im spaniard and honestly I found it barbaric, disgusting and aggressive towards nature. The only ones that are more wealthy are the matadores (bullfighters). Is not a fair game..they hurt an animal that is been cut and hurt previously . i have many fight with idiots who still believe that is fantastic and a tradition. So if it is a tradition why no continue with the Roman coliseums a man versus man or man versus lions?? a man could be a rapist or pedophile.. and thats fair game

Terri alan said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 4:13 PM

Djf our comment is extremely ignorant, any country should respect all life, go and boil your head down for glue!

cecilia said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 4:37 PM

Abolición ya a la tauromaquia y cualquier actividad donde se maltrate a seres inocentes

Philippe Ducreux said:
Thursday, August 29, 2013 @ 7:59 PM

Bullfighting should be banned everywhere, Torturing and killing an animal is punishable by law, more than 90% of people are against bullfighting, so...

Keith said:
Friday, August 30, 2013 @ 12:52 AM

For those who think it’s ok…because it’s classed as a culture…. The fact that bullfights are held for entertainment value, takes this act of wickedness to animals, to the realms of evil ! ...........These acts should not be classified as bullfights. The bull is going to be horrendously tortured and slaughtered for entertainment value by the most evil of humans! And maybe you don’t know…But the horses that are forced to take part have their vocal chords cut! …..WHY? …..to stop them screaming in agony when the bull attacks… The horses are also blindfolded…AND THIS IS OK BECAUSE IT’S CLASSED AS CULTURE…????
Some on here think these bulls have a good life before being sent to the bullring…SO IS IT OK TO TORTURE IT TO DEATH FOR ENTERTAINMENT…?????
And yes! Animals are treated abominably before being sent to slaughter….animal activists are fighting constantly on their behalf…IT’S NOT THE MEAT EATERS TO BLAME FOR THEIR WELLFARE, BUT THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR REARING. More stringent licensing would help.
Slaughter houses need severe monitoring, with hefty fines, or even closure for malpractice.
Back to the bullfight… To pay to watch an animal being tortured to death is wicked… To take part in its torture is wicked…To organise this event is evil… Some use the excuse that these bulls were bread for this very purpose…WELL!.. That’s premeditated wickedness… STOP LOOKING FOR EXCUSES FOR THIS PERVERSION….it’s 2013 Bullfighting started some 800 years ago.. It’s time Spain…..Portugal….France….and Mexico, put a stop to this vile practice… and dragged themselves into modern times. For those who say we shouldn't speak out against other nation’s culture, all I can say to you is BULLSHIT! We need to speak out against cruelty, wherever it is, and under whatever disguise it comes in, whether it be culture, tradition, art or religion. CRUELTY IS CRUELTY no matter how many bows you tie around it.
Bullfighting is subsidised to the tune of tens of millions of euros by the EU. So your taxes are being used to feed the greedy evil people that make their living from this barbarism. Are you happy with that…?? Without your money bullfights would fade into oblivion…just where they deserve to be.

MICHAEL SHAPIRO said:
Friday, August 30, 2013 @ 3:57 AM

ESPANA. THE BLOODIEST COUNTRY IN ALL OF EUROPE FOR ALL ANIMALS. A VERY GUTLESS COUNTRY. THE MACHO SCUMBAGS ARE WITHOUT HUEVOS. THE INTELLIGENCE OF SPAIN IS WITH THE WOMEN OF THE COUNTRY. THE MEN DO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO KEEP THEM QUIET.

Sylvie Auger said:
Friday, August 30, 2013 @ 11:06 AM

This kind of show must to be banned. Stop it !

John said:
Friday, August 30, 2013 @ 12:26 PM

"The bulls have already been abused and provoked for days prior to entering the bull ring including vaseline in their eyes!".

Many people do not like bullfighting and find it cruel but don't make it even more cruel than it already is by telling lies about it. All this talk which I hear all the time about vaseline in the eyes, beating their kidneys with sand bags, filing down their horns, sticking cotton up their nostrils so they can't breathe is all total rubbish and clearly spoken by someone who knows absolutely nothing about bullfighting and is taking someone else's word for it. The only "cruelty" a Toro de Lidia receives is what you see in the arena. It is pampered and checked by three vets before it is set loose in the ring. The most important strength of a bull is its vision, if it can't see there will be no fight, firstly because the bullfighter will reject it and the crowd will too. The bulls vision is what is checked for most before a fight, it must have perfect vision or there is no fight full stop. The sand bag argument goes back as far as the 18 century and then was a trick used by new bull fighters but was a made illegal nearly a hundred years ago. No bullfighter wants a weak bull, nor will the breeder allow it, his reputation depends on it. The bull is well fed and given water and kept in a relaxed environment right up to the moment it leaves the ring. Anyone who has had the slightest involvement with the world of Tauromaquia would know this. The rest is just rubbish and ancient lies used to criticise the world of bullfighting. Now in the ring I have nothing to say, that is a question of moral and ethics and if you consider it to be cruel, I respect that opinion and yes at the end of the day the bull is pretty much always killed, like all bulls on the planet.But suffers probably no less than many bulls in an abattoir. A bull fight last for around 20-25 minutes and a cow that has been stunned can be kicking about for 10 minutes until it passes out and event then it may be hung up and bled alive. Both are horrible and the fact that one is done for "fun" admittedly makes it appear worse but both are just as bad as the other, however I don't hear many saying that Abattoirs a torture cells. Torture is when the other part can not defend itself or fight back, admittedly it is not a level playing ground as humans are more intelligent than bulls full stop and thus have the advantage and the tools but the bull has a chance. But Bull fighting is not about killing the bull, it is about dominating it and getting it to do what the bullfighter wants. The killing of the bull is inevitable as once it has done a fight it can not be used again and is thus sacrificed for food. That is where the art comes into it, controlling the bull and getting it to move where the fighter wants it to go. The end kill is not the climax of the "show". It is the "toreo" of the bull that determines the quality of the show. I fully understand that many people do not like this event and are against animal cruelty no matter what, but they tend to be the people that look at all animals as pets or even humans and feel sorry for them and then go and eat a hamburger or some chops, or give their loving dog a bone! Where did that bone come from? What you don't see doesn't hurt does it?
But hypocrisy is rife in the world of anti-bullfighting and it gets on my nerves especially when they don't have a clue what they are talking about. I don't like bull fighting but at least I will give respect where it is due and not where it isn't without lies and stupid unfounded comments.

Tina Dueholm said:
Friday, August 30, 2013 @ 12:28 PM

No animal deserves to be tortured to death. Bullfighting and other bloody festivals should be banned. It has nothing to do with culture, art or entertainment only pure evil and something for sadistic people to watch. Remember most mass murderer starts with torture of innocent animals. Also remember the way a country treats its animals shows the rest of the world how civilized the country is.

catalanbrian said:
Friday, August 30, 2013 @ 12:47 PM

A good piece, John. Hysterical postings with untruths and myths really do very little to advance the argument against bullfighting. Indeed posting offensive remarks about Spain/Spanish people is just plain wrong and likely to evoke a negative response, so perhaps others might read your post and take note. Thanks for a sensible posting.

Lizzie said:
Thursday, September 5, 2013 @ 12:08 PM

Also did you know that Spain takes EU farming money to fund bullfighting!!! So they use our money to fund the breeding of bulls for this sick 'sport'.

Gary said:
Sunday, September 8, 2013 @ 8:17 PM

I am a meat eater and always will be. Killing animals and eating the flesh is natural and more healthy. We originated from hunters but have become distanced from the reality of how we now get our meat. I have killed and butchered animals to cook and eat and have no shame in it. In fact I am proud of my honesty and coming to terms with the suppressed nature of us all that we in fact like to kill. It satisfies a basic ancient need that exists in us all to a greater or lesser degree. Watching a bull fight allows everyone to take part in their minds as if they were killing the wild beast. I have seen some bull fights and can easily recognise that those bulls are the wild and completely un-domesticated, as far removed as the tiger from the tabby pussy cat.
I have seen a poor fight where the bull has suffered at the hands of an incompetent. I and the entire audience were disgusted and made our feelings verbal. Watching at the other end of the spectrum there was pride and admiration at the skill and bravery of the Matador.
If anyone doubts what I say then open your ears and eyes to what is going on in the world today. Murders, rapes and other violence taking place in our civilised cities. Wholesale slaughter and mutilation in other countries. Even today, now, it is taking place.
The difference between them and us is that we use violence to protect and only when necessary. They have their own reasons which are often debatable. It is not a bad thing to be reminded of our inner nature, to restrain ourselves and make us realise what we are capable of.
Some people try to fool themselves and deny the violence within them, they usually shout the loudest against abuse of animals, even to save human lives, but have no qualms about using violence for their beliefs. Worse than the violence is our own self-righteousness.

catalanbrian said:
Sunday, September 8, 2013 @ 11:02 PM

Gary. That is just claptrap.

Lutz said:
Monday, September 16, 2013 @ 10:41 AM

I hate

Elisabetta Bucciarelli said:
Thursday, September 26, 2013 @ 8:33 AM

No wonder why Spain is in deep economic shit....instead of concentrating on torturing animals in stupid traditions, they should start and work like everyone else instead of living with EU countries tax payers money! Move your asses and go to work!

catalanbrian said:
Thursday, September 26, 2013 @ 8:51 AM

Elizabeth. That is just a piece of anti Spanish diatribe that serves no useful purpose. Yes, Spain does have serious economic problems, but these were not caused by the Spanish people. They were caused by the banks and property developers (and a large number of foreigners who had taken out mortgages with the banks, who saw fit to just walk away from their debts when things started to go wrong). And to say that the Spanish people should "move your asses and go to work" is just fatuous in the light of the massive shortage of jobs. I am sure that many of the unemployed would happily move their asses if there was a job to be had. I assume, from your comments that you are not Spanish. Please rethink before you make criticism of the people who have welcomed you into their community.

eos_ian said:
Thursday, October 3, 2013 @ 9:50 AM

Latest News :

BULL-FIGHTING and bull-running will be officially considered 'national cultural heritage' based upon its 'tradition' in Spain following a motion in Parliament ending with a majority vote by the PP government.

The move comes from a petition received in Congress with 600,000 signatures calling for the spectacle to be considered a 'cultural asset', and will mean the government will create measures and invest money in promoting and protecting bull-fighting and bull-running throughout the country.

Miranda said:
Saturday, October 5, 2013 @ 11:55 AM

It is a national disgrace and should be banned by the EU. At least that would be one good thing the EU had done. It is totally barbaric and cruel in the extreme and it is to be hoped that other regions follow Catalunia and ban it.

Christine Ferguson said:
Saturday, January 25, 2014 @ 6:05 PM


Ditto above Obscene mentalities which allows this barbaric practice. It is not a sport. Never can be. Just murder of an innocent animal. But then mayors and lawyers who allow purchasers to buy phoney house building licences and then arrange demolition of these properties which they have endorsed indicate a similar mentality. Callous in the exteme. Without morality despite their holy hypocritical displays of Mary &Jesus dolls and penitents. Feel- and get real. Time to grow up. Suffer a little.

Berta Raposo said:
Tuesday, June 17, 2014 @ 7:24 AM

I am totally against animal cruelty. Let's work together to the end of animal cruelty!!!

Chris said:
Wednesday, June 18, 2014 @ 5:02 AM

CORRIDA BASTA!!!

Tatie said:
Wednesday, June 18, 2014 @ 6:32 PM

Non a la corrida

Yolanda Williamson said:
Friday, July 11, 2014 @ 3:20 AM

Absolutely ridiculous the ignorant that claim that because someone eats meat cannot oppose to bullfighting. I'm a vegetarian and EVEN if I would eat meat I have all the right to complain. I have watched thousands of videos on how animals are killed in slaughterhouses, it is horrendous, even if the are being rendered unconscious. I wish I could grab those who agree on this abhorrent practices and bury a sharp stick on their backs and lastly cut their ears and balls! you don't deserve to have been born to this world! &*^&^^%%