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23 Sep 2008 12:00 AM by suemayhew Star rating. 92 forum posts Send private message

Hi All,

Is there any news on our TV channels at all? Has anyone got any English channels at all that their watching? if so can you please advise which company etc.

Thank you in advance.
Sue & Ray
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23 Sep 2008 3:56 PM by ronjune Star rating. 81 forum posts Send private message

Hi Sue
We have Teleeast and though we have lost the Sky and sports channels we do have BBC, ITV etc. and some movie and English radio channels.  It costs 490E to install and 20E per month.
Hope this is useful.
June

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23 Sep 2008 7:07 PM by balsicas Star rating in Hertfordshire to Sie.... 233 forum posts Send private message

Hi Sue
If you have already had a system installed (mesh type aerial like i had) then Teleast will install a small dish type system for 190 euros plus 20 euros per month, we have 65 channels, all uk bbc1,2,3,4  itv1,2, about 6 film, about 6 music, eurosport 1 & 2 and kids channel but no sky sports. 
Hope this helps.
Tony


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23 Sep 2008 9:24 PM by suemayhew Star rating. 92 forum posts Send private message

Thank you for your replies, we are out again on 13th Oct, so will get it sorted then.

See you then

Sue & Ray


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24 Sep 2008 9:51 PM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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Please do a search on Google for Telemicrolevante and read about the legal proceeding being taken against re-broadcasters 

The system that you are suggesting may be ilegal and you may end up paying out for something that may be cut off at anytime soon and the lagal case is currently going through the courts 

There is also lots of information on the general section of this site that should be read, before you purchase any system

There are more than 60,000 people in this area alone that have paid in advance for a TV servuce and now have nothing at all

The only guarnteed way to get TV is by having a large dish, at least 1.9m and Freesat which will give you all of the UK channels etc, plus Sky if you have a UK subscription

You also get better digital pictures, better sound and HD plus you simply run a cable to have TV in other rooms and put in an €80 satalite box, agian no additional subscriptions

The dish can be shared, if you are in a quad, which can be shared by more than one property, or by neighbours as the dish will run up to 8 feeds

The initial cost, around €900 is more however you do not pay any subscription fees and of course you will not waste your money when the service goes off

If anybody needs more information please mail me but think very carefully about the mesh systems and read ALL of the information available

 





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25 Sep 2008 2:17 PM by ronjune Star rating. 81 forum posts Send private message

Just to clarify, receiving Sky and other subscribed UK satellite TV channels here in Spain is illiegal even with a UK account and a big dish.  If at any time Sky discovers that you are receiving your signal here in Spain they will disconnect you! Even receiving Freesat here is illiegal, even in the UK it is paid for by your TV licence and if you are resident in Spain I think it is unlikely that you dutifully send your licence fee to the licencing authority each year.  Yes both Sky and the terrestrial TV channels are aware that illegal reception of there programming happens.  They and there staff probably holiday on the continent and watch it themselves when they are here but that doesn't change the legallity.  You can subscibe to a Spanish satellite TV company and receive some English language programming and movies but that at present is the only entirely legal way to get English TV.
So for the pious amongst us we had better turn off the set!!!
June


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25 Sep 2008 3:47 PM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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The key point is to avoid what could be an expensive mistake of signing up with one of the re-broadcasters which is then shut down like TM

They cannot turn off the Freesat system being received by a big dish or they are actually not fussed about this

It is actually not a criminal offence but if you subscribe to Sky where you need a UK address fir the card you are beaking the conditions of the contract and they will turn you off

If you are a bar or re-broadscaster using the service for commercial gain they are more likely to use the local authorities to prosecute you



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25 Sep 2008 9:52 PM by suemayhew Star rating. 92 forum posts Send private message

Hi Again,
I have spent many an hour researching this lately and yes, it is very confusing

I have been given two other options by different poeple in the UK was well. The first being FreeSat etc this was told to me by a aerial/sat installer supplier, he also said the signal was upgraded in May and you now only need a 60cm dish?
The other option is to use the internet, which plugged into your UK tele.
I don't intend to do anything yet anyway but does anyone use the internet?

Thanks again for the help and advise.
Sue


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26 Sep 2008 8:42 AM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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To receive Freesat in Spain you require a minimum of a 1.4m dish and to get BBC2 a 1.9m dish

Your advisor is talking rubbish

The intenet option is using a Slingbox or one of the many Torrents available but you  need a good connection

To see more on the TV debate have a look at this articleThe 14 detainees have defrauded more than 500 million and had over 60,000 customers, who paid up to 22 euros per month.

EUROPA PRESS The Civil Guard has dismantled an international network dedicated to deliver private television channels, without the rights to do so, customers of British origin residing in Alicante, Murcia and Almeria. The operation has resulted in 14 detainees who allegedly defrauded more than 500 million euros for the TV platforms and Public Finance.

The organization, comprised of eight Spaniards, three British, one Belarussian, a Romanian and a Russian, captured the British-channel signal and broadcast in the Levantine coast for clients from UK, without paying the corresponding rights and benefits without declaring .

According to investigators, fraudsters have three companies with legal cover, through which operating covertly. Reported a much smaller number of subscribers to those who actually had - 60,000 people - and then illegally distribute the signal in Spanish territory.

The operation, called 'Scimitar', was launched following a complaint filed by a legal representative of Sogecable, after detecting that some of Britain's emissions in Alicante whose contents included ownership of TV rights in Spain correspond to the digital platform.

Then, the investigation revealed that the organization had a house located in an industrial estate in the municipality of Algorfa Alicante, which housed powerful satellite dishes and decoders, hired in the United Kingdom and Ireland.

These technical means allowing capture the signal of several British television channels via satellite. Thus, the suspects returned to decode and encode channels using a system called Irdeto, and then distribute it to their customers across the coast from Benidorm to the Andalusian village of Vera, through a network of transmitters and repeaters themselves.

The agents have conducted 22 searches, which have seized computers, technical equipment for the reception and broadcast television decoders, mixers and cash worth over five million euros.

MORE THAN 60,000 CUSTOMERS

The plot had more than 60,000 customers, mostly members of the British community established in the Levantine coast, which paid 590 euros per installation costs, plus monthly premiums of between 18 and 22 euros, or annual fees of between 200 and 220 euros, depending on the channels hired.

The installation in the homes of customers consisted of an antenna-specific emission frequencies used and a decoder that only worked appliance with a card with numbers unique to each customer, which made it possible to cut the signal in case of nonpayment.

Some TV channels had given authorization to provide the signal to a limited number of customers, gaining the rights concerned, but the network breached this commitment and that the actual number of customers was much higher than actually declared by the organization.

Similarly, to defraud the Treasury, as reported profits for only about 17,000 customers. The investigations have been carried out by the Team of the Judicial Police of the Guardia Civil of Torrevieja (Alicante)
 from the spanish press





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26 Sep 2008 9:29 AM by twinnings Star rating. 8 forum posts Send private message

It seems to me that you are avoiding the moral dilemma of STEALING not just from the tv companies but the  thousands of performers who benefit from the sale of their performances throughout the world to programmers who broadcast LEGITIMATELY!  Would you like someone to steal your source of income!!

Whilst this may not be a CRIMINAL ACT it is ILLEGAL AND iMMORAL, but, in the words of the song, does it make you fat!

PS Inpsectahomes  could you make your replies more concise as I often run out of interest for completing reading your many, many postings!


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26 Sep 2008 9:40 AM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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Twinnings if you like or dislike my postings many people appreciate it and I have many supporters who find my information useful and I can prove that I have saved people thousands of euros

A 60cm dish will not work in Spain so again the poster would have wasted their money

I actually agree with your comment and the fact is that people in Spain would be happy to pay to receive legal TV broadcasts and it is not the UK population that choose to rip people off but the re-broadcasters who steal the signal and sell it on

Many people who have bought these services, paying anything from €300 to €500 installation fee, paying €240 a year for rental have now lost between €300 - €700 and have nothing so if my posts avoid other people making the same mistake then I am happy

By the way I have nothing to gain from this as I do not carry out building work or install satellite systems or derive any commission from their sale 

 



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26 Sep 2008 10:22 PM by MagnLoz Star rating. 67 forum posts Send private message

Well

Bit of a fracas going on here

Wot if you have a cracking big dish - a uk address & pay thru a UK bank account
are you stealing from anyone - I don't think so
are you paying for it - yep

you take your chances - cost ot installation + cost of hardware + monthly payments - in the UK

Surely it is not just about each one of us as individuals but about equal access in the European Union

Soz all - I used to be a civil servant!

it may not be ok/legal today - but it's got to happen

Mags N Loz


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26 Sep 2008 10:29 PM by suemayhew Star rating. 92 forum posts Send private message

Twinnings.

On the contrary I AM NOT avoiding the moral issue!!! I am trying to do things legally I am certainly not trying to steal anything!!!. This is why I have asked the questions. I am not prepared to be CONED by a Spanish sat TV company. It iis perfectly legal to buy a FREESAT and do what I want to do and also get TV via the internet. I am more than happy to pay. Freeview channels are just that  - FREE to everybody. However, if there was a legal system in Spain guaranteed not to be cut off I would be more than happy to buy it. I'm not prepared to take the risk at present

With over 90% of the Brits in Spain being coned out of hundreds of euro's I don't need to explain myself when trying to do the right thing. For your information I am certainly not getting fat.

I think you need to read my posts properly unfortunately you have not seen the private messages that have  sent and received. If you hadf you would have had access to all the facts and not needed to send this nasty and unnecesary post

Thanks for your message.


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26 Sep 2008 10:30 PM by suemayhew Star rating. 92 forum posts Send private message

Twinnings.

On the contrary I AM NOT avoiding the moral issue!!! I am trying to do things legally I am certainly not trying to steal anything!!!. This is why I have asked the questions. I am not prepared to be CONED by a Spanish sat TV company. It iis perfectly legal to buy a FREESAT and do what I want to do and also get TV via the internet. I am more than happy to pay. Freeview channels are just that  - FREE to everybody. However, if there was a legal system in Spain guaranteed not to be cut off I would be more than happy to buy it. I'm not prepared to take the risk at present

With over 90% of the Brits in Spain being coned out of hundreds of euro's I don't need to explain myself when trying to do the right thing. For your information I am certainly not getting fat.

I think you need to read my posts properly unfortunately you have not seen the private messages that have  sent and received. If you hadf you would have had access to all the facts and not needed to send this nasty and unnecesary post

Thanks for your message.


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26 Sep 2008 10:33 PM by suemayhew Star rating. 92 forum posts Send private message

Inspectahome

Thanks for your messages, greatly appreciated. Yes I have already been coned once by a sat tv company and don't intend to get ripped off again. This is my only reason for asking the questions. I will quite happily pay for a legal service fi one can proce itself to be that.

Thanks again.
Sue


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26 Sep 2008 10:35 PM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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Suemayhew

I think that Twinning was actually attempting to have a go at me, not you and I am certainly the wrong person to attack

As I always say if you can´t be bothered to help people then why bother making a pointless comment



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27 Sep 2008 7:18 PM by niglam1 Star rating in Wakefield W. Yorks (.... 147 forum posts Send private message

Hi All

With regard to English TV has anyone heard of "Slingbox"

This is a box which plugs into your computer at home and it sends English freeview tv to your mobile phone or laptop or pc here in Spain.

You need to have high speed internet connected so you will pay installation and monthly bill but this may be one way of overcoming the TV problem.

I am frantically trying to find out more but if any of you whiz kids on the site know more then please enlighten us.

I know this is not the answer for everyone but if you have a base back in England and can hook this up then this could take the worry out of the situation for many.

Regards

Stella & Nigel


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29 Sep 2008 2:36 PM by twinnings Star rating. 8 forum posts Send private message

Dear suemayhew
Inspectahomes is in essence correct in that I had no intention to "have a go' at you.  It seems though that it is OK to take TV signals illegally but not to work to make a living illegally  some people have weird standards.
On the subject of PM's I have chosen not to subscribe to them as anything I have to say will be in the public domain.

Hope this explains everything.


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29 Sep 2008 2:42 PM by ronjune Star rating. 81 forum posts Send private message

Come on now everyone.  
It is up to each individual how they run their life and determine their moral code.   Too much space is taken up on this site at present with people trying to be the morality police.
LIVE AND LET LIVE.
The world or at least our little corner of it would be a happier place.
June

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29 Sep 2008 2:46 PM by carray Star rating. 174 forum posts Send private message

Hi ,  If anyone is interested you can watch english football live on your PC go to www.justin.tv    and pick a match.
Cheers Ray




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