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04 Sep 2006 12:00 AM by joe1 Star rating. 135 forum posts Send private message

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We purchaced a Seville villa on site number 38. When we visited last May there was little effort being made to start the construction work. They said that work would start this month. Half of our payment is by way of a bank guarantee and the remainder by way of a personal guarantee from the company MD.We would not accept a company guarantee as we felt that this option was not worth the paper it was written on. We have our bank guarantee cert and advise everyone who has not yet received thiers to get it now! Without this cert your guarantee is useless. A healthy form of sceptism is never out of place when it comes to Spanish property. There are all too many horror stories out there, most recently in the ''Valencia land grab'' issue. During our last visit we gave the builders the option to defer the completion date to something more realistic, but they insisted on the original time frame inspite of the fact that there is a penalty clause in the contract. They appear to be happy with thier lot. Hopefully things will move on and we can all enjoy our new homes in Trampolin Hills!

Regards - Joe & Terri



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07 Sep 2006 11:48 AM by jimstott Star rating. 4 forum posts Send private message

We have bougt an apartment at Trampolin Hills, but recently have been very worried as we have been informed that they have not got a building licence nor have they got a water licence. Also because of this many property agents will not advertise Trampolin. We have been trying to contact our property agent and Trampolin to no avail. Has anyone else got any further information with regard to the current situation.

Cheers.

Ann&Jim



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07 Sep 2006 8:50 PM by joe1 Star rating. 135 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Jim & Ann,

Having or indeed not having a licence at this stage is no big deal. The Spanish way is to build and then get permission. The local council in Campos del Rio will be pushing hard to ensure that this development goes ahead. It will of course ensure increased revenue to their coffers and also prestige to the area. 

The developers are also planning to build a sister project called Trampolin Hills Mula, approximately 30kl from Campos del Rio.  This development will go ahead in 3-5 years time. It includes a golf course, 5 star hotel etc. They also plan to build 250 Villa's equidistance between the two golf courses and are offering duel golf membership. They have not yet released details of price etc.

Sometimes buyers move into their new property in advance of permissions being granted and are aghast because there is no water or electricity. They then sound off about it. The Spanish way of planning, is not necessarily our way of planning. We purchased a property in Trampolin Hills with our eyes very wide open. Yes, buying off-plan is a gamble, but so is life!

We look forward to playing a round of golf and enjoying a drink with you all. It's a natural thing to doubt and worry, but it serves no purpose. Live for today!

As you can see Groupo Trampolin are major players.                               Sometimes............ the tail wags the dog!!!!!!!! 



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10 Oct 2006 11:03 PM by Micky G Star rating. 4 forum posts Send private message

Hi people ,

         My brother and i purchased 2 apartments  in april 06 , We paid the first deposits and appointed spainish solicitor  he advised not to pay second deposit as no bank garantees would be given , Also no licence for building and water supply had been granted , also he  said it could be up to 2 years or if at all before they get a licence , he also said most of his client are trying to recover there money. I have heard the new major of  murcia is  trying to stop building due to over development  in the area. We purchased from carol of sunquest and she assured all regulations were in place & building would be starting in june 06 and to come and pick wall & floor tiles in oct 06 , a friend went to check progress for us while on holiday on last week of Aug & suprise suprise , yes your right no builders and no work progress.my guess is that our money is going on filling the fuel tank of the MD `s lambrogini   i` ve seen him driving



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25 Oct 2006 12:51 PM by jimstott Star rating. 4 forum posts Send private message

Micky G have you had any success in getting your money back yet? We are thinking of going down the same route.


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25 Oct 2006 6:30 PM by M8URK Star rating. 35 forum posts Send private message

HIYA WE HAVE BOUGHT SEVERAL OFF PLAN PROPERTIES BEFORE AND HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE SAME PROBLEM BUT IN THE END THEY ALWAYS BUILD TO A HIGH STANDARD.  I THINK THE COMPANY WILL BEGIN BUILDING THE PROERTIES IN DECEMBER AS MY TRAMPOLIN HILLS AGENT TOLD ME. I THINK THE COMPANY IS GENUIN AND I TRUST THEM AND I AM PLEASED WITH EVERYTHING SO FAR.

THANKYOU

M8URK



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27 Oct 2006 9:41 PM by starcrest Star rating. 15 forum posts Send private message

Article 17: Civil liability of the agents that intervene in the building process.



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27 Oct 2006 9:42 PM by starcrest Star rating. 15 forum posts Send private message

Hi ALL

 

THE WEB SITE TO COMPLAINTS TO THE SPANISH GOVERNMENT IS AS FOLLOWS

www.cec.consumo-inc.es

and it is in english

yours

starcrest



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27 Oct 2006 10:29 PM by M8URK Star rating. 35 forum posts Send private message

HIYA THIS WEBSITE DOESNT WORK.  WHAT IS IT ABOUT?

THANKS M,8URK



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12 Nov 2006 9:36 PM by Micky G Star rating. 4 forum posts Send private message

Hi Jimstott,

I am still not sure what to do yet.I have a new solicitor so i'll be taking advise.i will keep you posted. cheers Mick.



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13 Nov 2006 8:18 PM by joe1 Star rating. 135 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Mick,

Taking advise from a solicitor can often prove to be a very black and white experience. If you want clinical advise then it would be Run a mile from buying off plan in Spain. Any solicitor worth his metal would advise this. It's the safe out!

Sometimes you have to use gut feeling. I bet, if you asked a solicitor 10 years ago, to advise you on the benefits of selling off everything and putting all your eggs in the property basket, he would most likely have told you to Run a mile from buying property as a sole investment. It's safe advise, however it isn't always the right advise! 

When I spoke to solicitors prior to my decision to purchase, I was told that this developer simply will not deliver on time. When I enquired as to other reasons why I shouldn't proceed to be honest they were thin on the ground. I know that when the time comes to pay the remaining sums owed, many purchasers will run into problems with regard to licences. If everything is not in order at this point, the banks simply will not give you a mortgage. If on the other hand, you have sold your home and intend to reside in Spain full time, you may feel obliged to move into a property that is technically illegal.

My solicitor is in the process of attaining copies of permissions granted to date. He will send copies to me, as and when he receives them. I in turn will inform you, as and when this happens. I don't expect to see a full list of permissions granted, as this is not the way the Spanish do business. Instead, I expect to see permission for the link road now being built and for certain other forthcoming ground works. He tells me that this road is almost in place and that palm trees are being planted along it's length.

My wife Terry and I, go to Spain on the 2nd Dec for a month. Whilst we are there we shall extract as much info as possible about the development and pass it on when we return.

So you see Mick, it's a little like gambling. Only bet what you can afford to loose!

  

 



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15 Nov 2006 11:52 AM by starcrest Star rating. 15 forum posts Send private message

do not buy from this company


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16 Nov 2006 8:50 PM by joe1 Star rating. 135 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Starcrest,

Which property have you bought on Trampolin Hills Golf Resort?

I have purchased Plot 38 Seville.

 



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