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13 Dec 2012 3:19 PM by steve and anita Star rating in in San Cayetano. 324 posts Send private message

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 Hi all, I work in a garage and have recently heard rumours that you have to get the customers NIE or passport number for every invoice, or the accountants will not accept the facturas, can any one shed any light onto this matter. Apparently its a recent new law!!!

 

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13 Dec 2012 4:58 PM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

I remember that when dealing with some supplier as long ago as 15 years one was required to produce an NIE. 
 
I believe it was a requirement when the NIE’s were first introduced, about 15- 20 years ago, but like so many things in Spain it got forgotten.





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13 Dec 2012 5:04 PM by steve and anita Star rating in in San Cayetano. 324 posts Send private message

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 Yes , but this every customers car we work on, whether to do an oil change or a full service and other repairs, have heard we have to get the customers nie or passport details to go on the invoice  !!!!





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13 Dec 2012 5:15 PM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

 

As I said, yes I believe that is the law, and has been for many years,  although it has not been applied.
 
With the NIE every transaction, bank account etc is available for inspection on the internet by the Hacienda.

 





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13 Dec 2012 6:29 PM by tamaraessex Star rating in Colmenar, Malaga. 508 posts Send private message

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I have to show my NIE if l use my Spanish debit card in Dunnes, the furnishing store in Velez-Málaga. I recall showing it also if using my British credit card in the pasr, which perhaps makes more sense.

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13 Dec 2012 9:36 PM by andyintorre Star rating in Costa Blanca. 104 posts Send private message

 Interesting concept that the hacienda can inspect every invoice or bank account on the internet, they must have a blanket court order to access an awful lot of records and bank accounts no wonder they don't have time to do the job properly. It would be interesting to know how they could inspect an invoice given to a customer for work done on a car as there is no requirement for the garage or workshop to upload a copy of an invoice to the internet. Whilst I don't consider myself a computer expert I don't understand how this could work. Anyone able to explain?





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14 Dec 2012 9:02 AM by chris 2477 Star rating. 62 posts Send private message

I have been using a garage in San Javier for the past 3 years for my vehicle repairs and every time i have paid they have asked for my NIE number.





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14 Dec 2012 10:08 AM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

For those (few) who would not have understood, 
 
        I meant of course that Hacienda can inspect all records showing an NIE, WHICH HAVE BEEN UP LOADED TO THE internet. (i do not know if when an accountant submits his/her  ‘sign off’ report on company accounts for hacienda if the/she automatically posts that info. If they do then, that info would be available.
 
Hacienda have the right of access presumably by law, thus, do not need any court order (i.e.  similar to The Bankers Book Evidence Act’s, which the police in UK use).
 
On one occasion when I was submitting my annual tax return in an Hacienda office,  I had forgotten to include a small amount of interest I had received on a Spanish bank account. The inspector,  said “No problem” and immediately accessed my couple bank accounts using my NIE.  On another occassion, when making a denunicia at the National Police, having given them my NIE they accessed my personal records, full name, address etc, and included them in the report.
 
I also know (from professional experience) that Hacienda regularly exchange info on the internet with HMRC in UK.   They have considerably more legal access to UK tax info than the police in UK have.





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