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For the last 4 years, my wife & I have spent a total of 4 months a year in Spain & plan to do so for the foreseeable future. We stay for 2 months in spring & another 2 months in autumn; we don’t own a property in Spain but rent, usually the same apartment. I thought we only needed to register if living in Spain for more than 6 months a year but,recently,I read something about the need to register after just 90 days! I’m now confused about weather or not we need to register & if so, how to go about it bearing in mind we don't have a permanent registered address in Spain. I'm also concerned if registering in Spain would in any way affect my rights to health/welfare care in the UK? Can anyone explain & advise?
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Yes the UK home office can advise on this. It may be wise to contat your MP first and get a referral to save time though.
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John. This could be of interest to a lot of people. Please post the information and ignore the vile stalkers who no one takes any notice of.
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Source: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/residency-requirements-in-spain
Residency requirements
From 28 March 2007, Royal Decree 240/07 requires that all EU citizens planning to reside in Spain for more than 3 months should register in person at the Oficina de Extranjeros in their province of residence or at designated Police stations. You will be issued a credit card size Residence Certificate stating your name, address, nationality, NIE number (Número de Identificación Extranjero) and date of registration. After five years residence registration you are entitled to apply for a certificate of permanent residence in Spain.
More details can be found on the website for the Spanish Ministry of the Interior (information is in Spanish).
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Do you have to pay anything.
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Good post from Maria again
Please seek professional advice it is always the best advice
As you are not staying for more than 3 months why bother?
I am not sure if the 2 x 2 months as you describe qualify as more than 3 months
Same would apply if you had 10x 1 week holidays
I know some who commute every week and every month and I don't think they register
Perhaps Maria could comment
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As we all know coming to Spain for more than 3 months (90 days) you are obliged to register your presence - it is not rocket science or a secret and as Maria has pointed out very clearly
However as the OP is only staying for 2 months at a time and at diffenrnet times of the year so NOT 3 months (90 days) consecutively
let's ask the question other ways for clarification
Is the 3 months (90 days) obligation only for a single stay i.e. consecutive 3 months (90 days) or cummularive over say a 12 month period.
If not what happens if someone comes on holiday to Spain 3 times a year for 2 weeks (14 days) at a time (total of 42 days i.e. 3 x 14 days) or every weekend for 3 days would they have to register?
I am not aware of any obligation or limit on the number of holidays you can have in Spain where you have to register (unless any one stay is more than 3 months)
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let's hope the OP seeks professional advice
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Been doing the same for 4 years and probably had no problems, only spends 2 months a time in Spain twice, owns nothing in Spain, not residing in Spain, holidays only....What on earth is the problem, carry on doing what you are doing.
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** EDITED - inciting** I have advised him and he is now fully aware of his situation.
My advice as you said Baz was , No need to do anything 'carry on doing what you are doing.'
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Why would you need it OP.
It’s just a tax of €6.75 and a load of wasted time (photos, form filling, day out at polive station, pack lunch) for something that is useless and nobody wants.
It’s not even a discount card for McDonalds.
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Well. It's great that María takes time to post advice regularly, lawyers do charge for further information, and rightly so.
The poster, being British and visiting, has a perfectly legitimate approach at home, through the MP and government office, for free. It will cost a phone call or e mail.
I really don't get all this PM and bar room lawyer advice,
the simple answers are usually the best, I find!!!!! Ask the proper authorities.
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Well. As I do very similar to the original poster, I have an interest. I take it (and would take it reading the thread but no-one has stated it simply) that, it is a three month continuous period. Therefore two separate periods of 2 months each each year do not count.
Six periods of one month however and any combination adding to 180 days or more in a year may be a different ball game.
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Tweed quite right, unless one moves to Spain (that is they maintain a home elsewhere ) an EU citizen can stay for up to 3 months permanently without being required to register on the EU Citizens Register. If they stay for a total of 183 in a 12 month period then they must register.
I have never been able to discover any rule which qualifies what 'permanently' means in all situations. A person who stays without leaving for 3 months, OK that is permanent, but if a person leaves for say even a hour, or a day, does that breaks the permanent rule? So does a day trip to Gibraltar restart the 3 month ?
This probably a rhetorical question, so I do not expect an authoritative answer to this.
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