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03 Mar 2009 12:00 AM by Rob in Madrid Star rating in Madrid. 274 posts Send private message

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Apparently no one ever moves in Spain because I have been looking in vain for some basic information on how to change your address on your NIE.

Does anyone have any idea on what is involved in changing your address on your NIE?

Everything else (buying a car, transferring ownership, getting a pardon etc) but it seems no one ever moves!!!!!

We are moving and at the same time buying a second car. We will use the same gestoria who put our car on Spanish plates to do our new car, the pardon I can do myself (well with the help of someone who speaks Spanish) But the NIE I'm lost

 

 

 



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03 Mar 2009 9:58 AM by Sanchez1 Star rating. 853 posts Send private message

Hi Rob,

When I got mine in Estepona, I was told by the lady there that you don´t ever need to change your address on your NIE.

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03 Mar 2009 2:24 PM by claire T Star rating in Torremendo, Orihuela. 688 posts Send private message

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Hi Rob - I agree with David - there is no need to change the adress on it as it is a lifetime number. 

I just obtained NIEs for Irish clients of mine and they have our Remax office address printed on them.  The rule seems to be that there must be a Spanish adress on the application form and, since my clients haven't moved here yet, they accepted our office details, which then ended up being printed on the certificate.

You do need to change Residencia and Padron when you move as they relate to the area you live in.



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03 Mar 2009 5:15 PM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9419 posts Send private message

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The only address I would pay atention to always have updated is the one in the registred  certificate as an EU Resident (certificado de registro) .This document certifies  residence in Spain and states name, address, nationality, and the foreigners tax identification or  NiE number along with date of registration.


 



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03 Mar 2009 7:27 PM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4551 posts Send private message

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So, presumably just go to the same place you got your useless certificate and go through the motions all over? Another 6 a.m. start then.

By the way, Rob, I hope you never actually need a "pardon"!



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03 Mar 2009 8:39 PM by Rob in Madrid Star rating in Madrid. 274 posts Send private message

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thanks, what's the difference between a Residencia and Padron

 

 



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03 Mar 2009 10:16 PM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4551 posts Send private message

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National / local. You are a resident of Spain; you are registered on the padrón of your local town hall. As far as I know, whilst the former is obligatory the latter is optional. If you move within Spain, you are still a resident, so no need to do anything with regards to your NIE or residencia; Maria suggested getting your residency certificate changed, but I've yet to discover what use this silly piece of green paper has, or anyone who knows, so I wouldn't worry about it. If you move to another town, though, you should register on the padrón at your new town hall. I think they will then notify your old town hall that you are on their register now, and the previous one will take you off their list. I think. Anyway, like I said, I think it's optional anyway, so again, don't lose sleep over it!



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04 Mar 2009 6:38 AM by Rob in Madrid Star rating in Madrid. 274 posts Send private message

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OK that explains why I can't find any information on changing your address on your NIE

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04 Mar 2009 7:24 AM by claire T Star rating in Torremendo, Orihuela. 688 posts Send private message

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Hi Roberto - I know that you are technically correct but practice varies across Spain - so what is new????  In Orihuela Costa they won't let you apply for the Padron untl you have your Residencia and no amount of complaints will budge them.

So Rob - you probably need to ask in your new town hall what rules they work to, just to be sure.



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04 Mar 2009 8:21 AM by DaveXC Star rating in Hornchurch, Essex / .... 5 posts Send private message

Hi All

If I understand correctly, there is no need or legal requirement to change your address on your NIE. 

However, does the address need to be a valid one ? as when I got my NIE the property I was purchasing was under construction but has never been completed. I subsequently, got my money back and purchased elsewhere although still in the locality.  

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04 Mar 2009 8:37 AM by Sanchez1 Star rating. 853 posts Send private message

Hi Maria,

I´m a little bit confused about "residencia" and the "certificado de registro".  I have an NIE, social security number, am on the padron and work and pay tax in Spain.  It was my understanding that the fact that I am working and paying tax in Spain, that automatically makes me a resident here.  Do I still need to get the  "certificado de registro"?  When I have bought a car here, opened a bank account etc., the NIE/padron/passport is all I´ve needed to show...

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04 Mar 2009 9:44 AM by Rob in Madrid Star rating in Madrid. 274 posts Send private message

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Good god, clear as mud, never thought I'd say this but this is one time where I miss the German bureaucracy, lots of rules but it's very efficient once you know what your doing and with a bit of luck you'll find someone who'll communicate in English.

Anyways I asked a friend (specific to Madrid) and he said yes you do need to change your address on your NIE, at the same place you first registered  oh what a nightmare that was, me and 10.000 Romanians trying to get our residency permits!!!!  Anyways again it really depends on who your dealing with. Generally speaking it's not a problem. Actually he thought it could be done online these days.

Is the "certificado de registro".  The same thing as the NIE?

 



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04 Mar 2009 12:02 PM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9419 posts Send private message

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Padron: Local registration as living in a concrete municipality ( for statistic reasons), Does not grant to you any right.

NIE number: Foreigners´ identification numer for Taxes purposes. Does not grant to you any right

Residency registration: Proof of holding of residency rights:

Tax benefits
 
• In Capital Gains Tax: If you’re a resident and are at least 65 years old , there will be no tax liability for Capital Gains when you sell what it has been your home for more than three years.
 
• In Inheritance tax: There is a reduction (up to 99% in some regions) on the value of your home if you leave it to spouse, children or a close relative who is also a resident.
 
• Lower Income tax burdens: as in Spain the rates are lower than in most of northern European countries.
 
Health System benefits
 
Health system in Spain is universal, which means that everyone (national or foreigner) has rights to basic an urgent health services. ( We are very proud of that actually!)
 
Residents contributing to the Spanish Social Security system or a UK National Spanish resident receiving a UK state pension, will have rights to all the services of the Health system under same conditions as Spanish nationals. 
 

http://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/costaluz/1076/rights-of-foreigners-to-social-security-and-social-services-in-spain.aspx

http://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/costaluz/1080/article-15-subject-of-foreigners-to-the-same-taxes-as-spaniards.aspx

http://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/costaluz/982/legal-tip-12.aspx

http://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/costaluz/994/legal-tip-15-right-to-public-participation-of-foreigners-in-spain.aspx

http://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/costaluz/1018/right-to-work-and-social-security-of-foreigners-in-spain.aspx

 

 



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04 Mar 2009 6:02 PM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4551 posts Send private message

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"Hi Roberto - I know that you are technically correct but practice varies across Spain - so what is new????  In Orihuela Costa they won't let you apply for the Padron untl you have your Residencia and no amount of complaints will budge them".

Claire, I was working on the assumption that Rob is already a resident. But good point well made about practice varying across Spain - in fact, in my experience, it can easily vary in the one location from day to day!!!!



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