Horizontal Property Act, Section 17

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24 Sep 2009 12:00 AM by willow Star rating. 17 posts Send private message

 section 17 of the horizontal property act reads:-

The establishment or elimination of the lift, janitor and security services, or other common services or

facilities of general interest, even where they involve the modification of the master deed or the

community statutes shall require the favourable vote of three fifths of the total number of unit owners

representing three fifths of the assessment quotas. The lease of common elements lacking a specific use

shall require the favourable vote of three fifths of the total of unit owners representing three fifths of the

assessment quotas as well as the consent of the unit owner directly affected, if this were the case.

In this particular case does the voting exclude owners who are overdue with their community fees, or does this section of the act enable all owners to vote regardless of their debts?





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24 Sep 2009 4:26 PM by Karensun Star rating in Orihuela Costa. 1474 posts Send private message

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If an owner is in arrears, they cannot vote until the arrears are paid.



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24 Sep 2009 4:51 PM by willow Star rating. 17 posts Send private message

I appreciate that in normal circumstances & for voting on everyday matters only fully paid up owners may vote. However for large capital expenditures covered in section 17 I have been told that all owners have a vote.

This is very important as our agm is tomorrow and a lot may depend on this. Even our administrator has given two opinions!


 



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24 Sep 2009 5:08 PM by spanishsolicitor Star rating in Murcia. 140 posts Send private message

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Only in the case of unanimity established in section 17 (1) some courts don’t admit deprivation of voting rights of owners in default


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20 Apr 2010 12:07 AM by doedoe Star rating in Berkshire. 59 posts Send private message

Hi, 

Please could anyone tell me if an owner of several apartments in one complex is able to have a vote for each apartment they own.             

If they are allowed  to make one vote for each apartment they own, do they have to be fully paid of all community fees to be able to vote.,

If they they own several apartments in one complex and 6 have outstanding fees,  can they vote have 4 votes on the 4 community fees that are fully paid.

Many Thanks in advance  for  any answers  or advice given,   I have  been through the Spanish Horizontal Law and have found no answers.         

Doedoe                                                                                                                                                                                        

 



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20 Apr 2010 10:53 AM by worried owner Star rating. 18 posts Send private message

The owner with several flats in the same community only has one vote.

However each owner vote is not the same.  Each owner votes with the amount of cuota the properties have.

So if there were 100 flats which all have a 1% cuota, the owner with 5 apartments would have a vote worth 5 times as much as the owners with only 1 apartment.

Now I have not seen the other questions that you've asked written down anywhere but the HPA seems very logical.

On that "logical" assumption if someone has 10 properties of which 6 are in arrears and 4 are up to date, you should be able to vote with the cuota of the 4 you have paid the fees on.  You can settle the fees as late as the beginning of the meeting.

 

 

 



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21 Apr 2010 7:25 AM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9419 posts Send private message

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 Yes, vote is for every apartment he owns adn whose community quotas are paid.

 



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