Sports complex and Internet/wifi access between Jardine 5&6- any info welcome please?

What a riviting read

best i have read all year. (some strong words writen in anger)

Looking from outside the resort needs promoting not slagging off when will that penny drop. Negative attracts negative posative attracts posative in the business world.

through the current climate we have done a lot better than most and with a bit of positive promotion coupled with a bit of luck we may well end up with something close to what we were sold on (eventualyl).

Remeber the story Moses took the isrealites to see the promised land,only they complained and whined all along the journey. Just before they reached the promised land God decided enough was enough and they never got there. (not in to the bible but i remember that one from school)

Life is to short to keep bitchin all the time, thats for loosers.

we will use the squash courts when over next if we can access "without causing any damage" and take the risk.

in the intrim the golf is good the properties are generaly good the Town center seems to be getting there slowly and we seem to be doing ok with the rents, we love to come over every few months to chill out and check on the progress, dip in the pool and get leathered on the roof top with our new freinds English and Spanish.

The presidents seem to be doing well by us all the combination of English and the Spanish will bennefit in the end and we beleive in the long term this resort will be a gold mine.

Keep the sun shining for our visit end of August. and chill out will ya

LOL

hi

i hope all the other nationalities who have bought on CDA will gain some benefit from the presidents hard work also

 Anyone for tennis? hahaha

Geoff - you've not been there for a year as you say - so let those hard workers like Phil and others do the very best they can for the resort.  You are not at all funny - I have recently had so much help from people on this forum and am happy to know that there are some great people living there that will go that extra mile for fellow residents.  I can't imagine who rattled your cage today but come on..... there are people there who are working tirelessly to give us all the best resort they can.  Breaking locks etc just makes you look like a hooligan.....not very 5 star - premiere resort behaviour no matter how disgruntled early buyers feel.......

 If I haven't been over in a year as you so wisely point out, then how can I break anything you fool?

But you were proposing to break locks - so who exactly is the fool??....

Geoff, I'll say what everyone else is thinking, YOUR A DICK.

Why are you all biting to this man`s comments.

He is like a drug adict. the more you feed his need the more he will want.

Stop bitting

Forget this thread  & let him stew in his own venom

Calm down everyone.

Geoff is what's known as a WUM.

"Wind up Merchant"

He'll be laughing at his keyboard at the reaction he's getting.

 The locks have already been broken, which is great news for me and the many other owners who are prepared to break the lock without causing damage to the property to use the few facilities that we have actually got at Condado out of the many many we were promised.

And as for a 5 star resort, where exactly are you spending your time at Condado De Alhama, if I paid money to go stay at a 5 star resort that had 1 supermarket, perfectly good tennis courts etc., that are chained up, a crap bar, a sh1t restaurant and the place that smells of pig turds for 1 week, I'd be somewhat annoyed, never mind for 15+ years.

Are you people really happy that you've ended up with at most a third of the proposed and promised golf courses, less than a third of the proposed properties built and a third of the proposed and promised town centers and as much as I hate to say it the properties are worth a third less at the very most than what we paid for them?

Where did you all get your rose tinted glasses, cause I'd love a pair for the next time I'm over at Condado.

And as for you all trying to bully me into your way of thinking & leaving snide comments etc., you may forget about it, because I've been intimidated by much much worse than most of you could ever imagine and it didn't sway me, so you people are hardly gonna be able to, especially as you all sound so delusional.....

Thanks again to the people sending me support via p.m.. Kind Regards Geoff

Geoff

The people who pm you with support will they please come out on eye on spain and be identified if they agree with you?

Don't believe they exist.

Barry

Geoff

If you feel so stong how come you are not the President of Jardin 2 i bet you dont even know who you President is?

You have no idea what your Presidents are actually doing for YOU

 You don't believe many things that are obviously true, because as we've already established, you and your band of potential mental patients are all extremely delusional. 

And when people send me a PM, I believe that they don't want me to mention them on the thread.

And what you gotta understand is, I don't feel the need to get support, as even you should be able to establish by now that I don't care what a hand full of insane people who bury their heads in the sand and pretend things are perfect when they're clearly far from perfect think, as thinking is obviously not your strongpoint. 

And as for the drivel being suggested earlier that nobody supports the idea that the tennis courts should be used this summer, is shown to be so far out of touch by the apparent volume of people actually using them everyday, I think it's called, 'people voting with their feet' and they, like I and others on this forum, don't give a sh1t about what the usual rose tinted glasses team say about it as you don't really matter in the grand scheme of things and they don't like being told the truth. regards. Geoff.  

 Don't be so childish Sonatigh, if you can't say anything worthwhile other than feeble & useless comments, keep it zipped.

The president of Jardine 2 is a Spanish speaking gentleman, which all presidents worth anything should be and hopefully are. As a Jardine president who can't speak Spanish is obviously as worthless as a 3 golf course golf complex with only one course, no decent shops, or bars or restaurants or cafes or banks, no club house, virtually no pro shop, no sports facilities, no lights, no more building, no people and it also smells of sh1t. regards. Geoff

Barry, I was one of the people who sent a message of support to Geoff.

Not because I agree with everything he says, but because I know what its like to hold unpopular views on this forum. Thats why I stopped posting! Till now.

I suffered at the hands of the bullys who want to shoot down anyone who isnt praising the resort. Freespeach is not encouraged on this forum, its not balanced at all.

Its still astounds me that people have lost over 50% of their property value, been given a fraction of what they were promissed in terms of facilities and yet still claim to be completly happy. Although I suppose that this forum is so bias in favour of the "Rose tinted crew", or "Half full brigade"(As they were known in my days), that you all build the resort up to be something it isnt.... "paramount might be coming", "Olagolf will be our saviour", etc ect.....

All I can say for sure is, had I not bought I would have a lot more money in the bank than I have now.... and I wouldnt be paying out for Electric, service charges etc on a place I have not desire to visit.

So all in all I can understand why Geoff is disapointed with Condado.... Many other can understand his disapointment too, but they are probably too scared to post.

I for one do recognise the disappointment that the resort hasn't developed in the way it was expected to. I'm not embarrassed to say that we had to bring in an extra person to help us out with the mortgage when we swopped from Golf Suites and I'm now a 'silent' partner in the deal and I have felt very bitter about being persuaded to go ahead. However after visiting the resort several times I just came around the the fact that PW did seem to try to give us a viable, albeit smaller, resort. I dont think any amount of cussing them will change the fact that the recession bit hard, almost wiped them out and this is were we are now. They are not the most able in customer relations and leave alot to be desired when things go wrong as they use the 'ignore' tactic so I wouldnt be giving them any awards. If you are saying they kept selling the concept even though 'they' knew it wasnt going to be the resort being touted around I'd probably agree with you- as it seemd people had no sooner signed up in early 2007 when huge changes were afoot. That is the bigger issue.

I also agree that the sports zone has been being used since is 'shut down' which does demonstrate people want it ( wether they want it as much when we have to pay for it we'll see) but I can't see that advocating to break in is a forward move. Many will be renters who couldnt care either way if it's 'locked up' and not supposed to be used. Are there any signs saying 'No entry'?

I know it's galling that property prices have dropped and we have far fewer facilities than anticipated but thats just not affecting Condado. I dont see that any of this snarling helps anything, Polaris aren't suddenly going to start opening bars and coffee shops in Al Kazar because so far there just haven't been enough people to sustain them. It is quiet at Condado off season- but most resorts are quiet then ,not just Condado.  Maybe that will change but the seasonal tourist visitor numbers for Spain are down and projected to remain down for 2010/2011 (who knows for off season!) so that wont help plans for further development. That isnt Polaris's fault.

My hope is that  the Presidents can over come any problems and get the zone open and we can move on.

My problem with Geoff was never about his views of the complex - we are not blind and can see we have not got what we were promised - but his unjustified attack on ptan who has done lots of work on our behalf ( a lot of it unseen)  and is still trying to give us the services we want.

Everyone can have their opinion but don't blame the presidents. Polaris were responsible and still are but they have now got us fighting amongst ourselves.

Time this thread was closed.

Barry

hi to all.

Amazing..

but where is the referee to count the points

it is obvious that nobody has completely reason or completely wrong !

goes on guys!

if needed, i will come back tomorrow.

jm

I agree, the attack on PTAN was out of order.

I agree about the resort and your view on certain aspects Geoff but that was bad crack.

He works for FREE and gives us info when we need it.

The resort has disapointed many people but attack people who are trying to improve it.

This is an open forum and other peoples views should not be vilified by others who do not share the same opinion as the poster!

I agree with some (not all) of Geoffs comments but Geoff, ranting wont change anything pal! I hope that we get more facilities in the town centre, club house and golf courses but only time will tell so lets wait and see, speculation is not fact!