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24 May 2008 1:13 PM by Jesús_Marín Star rating in London. 55 forum posts Send private message

Hi,
Did you ask for flue to the boiler or did they just put it?
When I visited last month my boiler worked properly so didn't ask for it but I am wondering whether I should.
I have got quotes for air conditioning from 3 differente shops and none of them is below 2,500 euros which I feel is quite expensive. Eventually I might have to go with one of them if there is no other choice.
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25 May 2008 12:00 PM by holdenandlee Star rating. 57 forum posts Send private message

No they were putting them in all of the appartments from what I could see, maybe it is an health and safety issue.

2500 does sound a lot, is that for A/C only or with A/C & heating


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25 May 2008 5:38 PM by Jesús_Marín Star rating in London. 55 forum posts Send private message

Thanks. Good to know. The 2.500 is for both cold and hot air and the inverter system which seems not to use up so much electricity. I need to save up the money first.
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28 May 2008 1:41 PM by Tex Star rating. 19 forum posts Send private message

Did anyone who completed late got hit with interest from October 2007 to completion.

I did , complained but  as usual Arenal just ignored the facts.

It looks like Arenal are quick to penalise you but when you cross their path but when it comes to rectifying the snags they just don't seem to be doing anything. Whats the point of giving us a snagging list if they won't rectify it.

With this type of attitude, I am not surprised they have got unsold apartments including the loft apartments. The punters wil be put off and now Arenal have got themselves in a deeper hole with the credit crunch affecting buyers unable to obtain a mortgage.

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28 May 2008 1:54 PM by Jesús_Marín Star rating in London. 55 forum posts Send private message

I wanted to complete in May since I have to ask for leave at work 1 month in advance and Arenal threaned me with charigng interest...... I knew it would be ilegal but I didn't want to get into trouble so went and completed in April instead as they suggested.
No judge in their right of mind would agree with interest when the flats are not finished, the evidence is the water.... if it can not be put on the buyers name that means the complex and therefore the flats are not legally finished..... but who wants to risk it?
I hope they didn't charge you much... I heard comments of people having to pay 1,500 euros interest.....regards.

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03 Jun 2008 6:56 PM by Ian007 Star rating. 23 forum posts Send private message

Does anybody know if the pool is finished yet?

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04 Jun 2008 9:53 AM by Tex Star rating. 19 forum posts Send private message

Up until Thursday of last week when my wife was there the pool was not ready but they did say in a few weeks times it should be ready.




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08 Jun 2008 5:21 PM by Jesús_Marín Star rating in London. 55 forum posts Send private message

Hi guys,
Have just come back from 1 day and a half in Jimena to find out that none of the defects I reported in April has been fixed. I also had my first shower there and felt the en-suite bathroom hot water was not really powerful and it seemed to stop at times, has it happened to you too?
Well, the main reason of my message is because I spoke to my Spanish neighbour who told me next Satuday 14 June there is another meeting to discuss how to move things forward since Arenal is not paying up for all the flats it owns and therefore the community funds will never be enough to do anything.  It is a shame because had I known that I would have gone next weekend instead of this one.
I think the guy said it would be at 10 am at la Casa de la Cultura. If someone wants to attend I could find out from EDIR what this is about and the exact time and place.
As I am never there for these meeting I was thinking about sending a proposal by fax to EDIR so that it could be proposed to the people in the meeting (if they cared). My proposal is that the community is a legal entity and it should apply for a loan to a bank so that at least the lifts start working, hopefully Arenal's payments will come later. We all know there are lots of on sale/to let  signs there so I very much doubt that they will sell those flats in the short term, besides I have heard most of the people who got allocated these flats have said they don't want them because they are too expensive for them and are trying to renegotiate the price with the townhall.
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10 Jun 2008 11:46 PM by Ian007 Star rating. 23 forum posts Send private message

I have recieved an invitation to the meeting-

Comunidad de propietarios:          RESIDENCIAL ARENAL

Fecha de la reunión                        14/06/2008

Hora de primera convocatoria:      10.00

Hora de segunda convocatoria:    10.30

Lugar de reunión:                           CENTRO CULTURAL DE JIMENA DE LA FRONTERA          
          
If anybody is attending this meeting would they be kind and inform this forum of the issues discussed and the outcome of the discussion. I would like to attend these meetings but the organisers never give enough lead time. Also, do we have a kind hearted member of this forum who can translate the invitation letters from EDIR or any other correspondence for that matter?



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11 Jun 2008 9:07 AM by Frustratedkeith Star rating in Jimena De La Fronter.... 55 forum posts Send private message

Hi all. We finally got an email invite to one of the meetings. See below. My wife Julie and I will be going and we will try to post a summary of proceedings as we did last time (tricky though to understand all that it said over the ranting and raving). The key agenda items appear to be the pool, water contracts and Arenal's arrears on community fees. I have heard that the president is already thinking of resigning as he feels powerless to do anything so another agenda item is to vote for him to be given powers. 
Keith

Dear. Owners:

The reason for this is to attach the call to the next Annual General Meeting of Owners RESIDENTIAL ARENAL extraordinary nature, the next day on June 14 - Saturday, the first call at 10.00 and 10.30 on second call on "Cultural Center of Jimena de la Frontera ", located on the street Seville S / N (opposite the town hall).

Given the importance of the topics to be discussed in this Commonwealth, ask your assistance.

We remain at your disposal for any question that might have:



EDIR studies & investments S.L.
C / Brothers Portilla No 4 - office 2-9
Admiral Building 2 - Algeciras 11205
Tel.: 956 65 00 34 - Fax: 956 63 21 42
www.edir.es / edir@edir.es





Convening Extraordinary General Meeting

                                                                           


Commonwealth of owners: RESIDENTIAL ARENAL
Date of meeting 14/06/2008
First Call Time: 10.00
Second call Time: 10.30
Place of assembly: Centro Cultural de Jimena de la Frontera


Dear owner:

Upon instructions from the Presidency and in accordance with Article 16, paragraph 1 of the Horizontal Property Act, he was summoned to the Extraordinary General Meeting to be held at the place, date and time listed in the heading, according to the following:

AGENDA

1 .- Reading Minutes earlier Board Owners
2 .- List of defaulting by portals to the date of such notice:
       2.1 .- Relationship Homeowners defaulting on portals
       2.2 .- List of buildings Arenal 200 delinquent by portals
3 .- deliberation and agreement on granting powers to the President and the Board of Directors and approval.
4 .- rule on the request by burofax to arenal 2000 draft out, Draft Pool and Water Project Booth Faecal.
5 .- Location statement of accounts of the Commonwealth to the date of such notice.
6 .- State which is the ratio of outstanding deficiencies applied to Arenal 2000
7 .- approval on opening current accounts in the name of the Community of Owners in bank in Jimena de la Frontera.
8 .- Questions and Answers


It reminds the co-owners of the Community of Owners RESIDENTIAL ARENAL, and in response to fulfil the rules of the Horizontal Property Law, Article 15.2, can not exercise the right to vote those neighbors that the date of this call is not find the current in the payment of overdue debts to the Commonwealth.

     THE Chairman Secretary-Administration

Fdo .-
                                                                    
____________________________________________________________________________
Bulletins REPRESENTATION
(Shipment to the Administrator at the beginning of the Board)
The undersigned sixth D / Ms neighbor of the community and unable to personally attend the Extraordinary General Meeting dated 14/06/2008, I give my representation for such an act and all intents and purposes the bearer of this authorization.
Authorized Person:
____________________________________________________________________________________


Fdo ____________________ .- Owners of Housing Lyric No ________ ________

                     

 




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11 Jun 2008 9:36 AM by Jesús_Marín Star rating in London. 55 forum posts Send private message

Thanks Keith.
I wonder if you would like me to delegate my vote on you?????? If you are kind enough to attend the meetings and give us a brief you deserve our trust!!!! 
Anyway let me know if you want my vote and your full details so that I can fax the authorisation to EDIR, probably if everyone did this we could have a strong saying.
My e-mail address is jesus.marin@language.proz.com
Regards.
Jesus.

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14 Jun 2008 9:47 PM by holdenandlee Star rating. 57 forum posts Send private message

Article on the development on the following link

http://jimenapulse.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/arenal-2000-what-now/






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16 Jun 2008 12:59 PM by holdenandlee Star rating. 57 forum posts Send private message

Further to the last comment there is a brief report of the meeting on the following link

http://jimenapulse.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/arenal-meeting/


Hopefully some further details may be posted on here by Keith




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25 Jun 2008 11:23 AM by Frustratedkeith Star rating in Jimena De La Fronter.... 55 forum posts Send private message

Hi all.Sorry for the delay but we have obviosuly lived in Spain too long and got the manana bug! Anyway, please find below our brief summary of the latest community meeting. For anyone interested you can see the official minutes for the meeting in Spanish on the edir webste www.edir.es. You go into Accesso Clientes with the password, and click on Juntas de propietarios. Then click on ver acta for that meeting.

Our notes

Community meeting 14th June 2008
 
The meeting lasted around 4 hours and much was discussed. I will try to summarise the main points a briefly as possible so not to bore you!
 
The main topic to be discussed was what we are going to do about Arenal. After the last meeting Edir have written to them twice asking for information about the urbanisation and pool and called each week to ask for the money they owe the community, which increases month by month and is currently over 7.000 euros. We have had nothing back from them.
 
We discussed starting legal proceedings against Arenal to claim back the money they owe us. Unfortunately, the legal system in Spain does not help us on this. If we commence legal proceedings to ask them for money, they only have to acknowledge us and pay us as little as 1 euro for us to have to start the process all over again. However, we voted to start this process, the president will appoint a solicitor to do this.
 
Another topic for discussion was the water supply and pool. Someone had been to the town hall and got the plans for the pool, which have been approved, so we can technically start to use it. HOWEVER, at the moment we are on builders water, and this supply does not provide adequate pressure to properly service all the apartments, let alone adding the pool to this. The water contracts have not been started, as Arenal owe the water board lots of money and have a tax bill to pay. Also, the pump, which is supposed to pump all our sewage to the main drain, has not been connected to the electric. As a result, our sewage is currently going straight into the stream at the bottom of the hill untreated.
 
In order for the pump to be connected, the electricity board need to approve the plans for it and they are with them at the moment, and it is expected to be done soon. From this point we can apply for our own water contracts. There is expected to be a fee of around 50 euros for connection, but there was also talk of having to settle this tax bill, which we may need to share out, but I don’t know how much that will be. Once the first person is on a water contract, the builder’s supply will be disconnected, so we all need to be ready to do it together.
 
From this point we can use the pool. There are many maintenance jobs which need to be done such as cleaning the pool and pump house, putting up signs, testing the water etc, which we went through.
 
We also discussed whether we should start the maintenance contract for the lifts. They are expensive to maintain, and without the money from Arenal we will struggle to pay for it. They will take a few months to get up and running though even if we start the process now as they all have to be inspected. We voted to begin this process and if necessary pay an extra 5 euros or so per month on our community fees for a period of about three months to see us through the tight patch which may arise if Arenal don’t cough up.
 
Other issues we voted on was to give the president, Patricio, powers to make decisions on changing contracters if there are problems, and also to not change our bank account to a local one as the existing one is fine.

Regards to all
Keith and Julie




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25 Jun 2008 11:30 AM by Jesús_Marín Star rating in London. 55 forum posts Send private message

Thanks Keith.
The fee for the water supply is 71 euros, I went to the water office myself during one of my visits.
Regards.


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02 Jul 2008 2:04 PM by Tex Star rating. 19 forum posts Send private message

There is article in Friday's edition (27 June 2008) in Cadiz/Strait news about the problems at this development.

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14 Jul 2008 4:15 PM by Jesús_Marín Star rating in London. 55 forum posts Send private message

Hi guys,
My first holiday makers are coming on the 28th July and I would like to be honest with them beforehand and tell them the swimming pool is not working. Ashamed as I am I think it is better to be open about it. I have spoken to Elena and as always very dismissive...... does anyone know how this is going? I guess there is no point in waiting any longer before I tell my renters...... I am still not sure the water problem has to be solved before the swimming pool starts working..... any feedback will be appreaciated.
Thanks.

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15 Jul 2008 8:50 AM by Frustratedkeith Star rating in Jimena De La Fronter.... 55 forum posts Send private message

My view (and is is only a view) is that the pool will not be ready this summer now. August is only 2 weeks away and nothing much happens in August here - in fact things are already pretty slow. We have heard nothing since the last community meeting so have no idea what the present state of play is. I will try to find out what I can and post something here.


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15 Jul 2008 9:02 AM by Jesús_Marín Star rating in London. 55 forum posts Send private message

Thanks Keith, that was my gut feeling too knowing the "cerrado por vacaciones" Spanish sign. If you find out we'll appreciate your sharing with us.
REgards.

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