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26 Aug 2011 12:00 AM by efrank Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

 Actually, it's not just Endesa, it's a habit of corporate Spain: no bank account on invoices.

So please let me ask: does anybody have a bank account number for Endesa?

If you need to know: I'm closing down my spanish bank account (don't ask) and Endesa is displeased.

 





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27 Aug 2011 12:23 PM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

Efrank

 

What was this relating to ?





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27 Aug 2011 9:36 PM by efrank Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

Ok, some background.

As you can read here in older threads, Endesa expects (household)
customers to have a bank account in Spain and allow Endesa direct
debiting. Nothing else will do. And actually is not a big issue for
permanent residents.

In my case, I am not a resident but I had a Spanish bank account.
I just decided to close it down because my tolerance was exhausted.

What gives? An upcoming encounter in a court of law. And if anyone
knows any Endesa bank account in Spain, that will make my fight
easier.


 





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27 Aug 2011 9:57 PM by Goldie Star rating. 154 posts Send private message

Anybody who owns property in Spain has to have a spanish bank account  under spanish law resident or not.





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27 Aug 2011 11:30 PM by SMYTHIE Star rating. 145 posts Send private message

 Endesa is the eletcricity company not a bank so dont have bank accounts just electricity accounts. You open any bank account , you can do this without being resident.and set up a direct debit for Endesa





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28 Aug 2011 8:58 AM by efrank Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

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Anybody who owns property in Spain has to have a spanish bank account under spanish law resident or not.

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Hearsay or do you have a reference?

I'm going to investigate but let me first mention my doubts.

I pay my property taxes once a year after receiving a reminder.
Direct debiting, i.e. a bank accoount, is not required.

Endesa is not arguing that I am obliged to have a bank account.
They say "We only do direct debiting, take it leave it". I say
"I will pay by transfer".

In a similar case, I discontinued my Telefonica landline and
stopped them from accessing my account. After I told them
I would need a bank account number to pay the balance, they
have not come back to me in one year! I still owe them.

My guess is that there is no obligation for owners of Spanish
property to keep a Spanish bank account.





 





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28 Aug 2011 9:28 AM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

Goldie,

 

I have never heard that one Must have a bank account.

 

( Must have an NIE,      yes.)

 

 

As efrank said,  can you point us to the legislations which says that ?  I have searched on the internet and cannot find anything





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29 Aug 2011 8:47 AM by efrank Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

Is there a legal obligation for a Spanish property owner to have a
Spanish bank account? No.

I browsed 10-15 sites offering property services and advice for Spain.
I asked a friend who works for a sizeable real estate agency in Gran
Canaria. I asked a friend's daughter who works for a Spanish bank.

All of them recommended a Spanish bank account for convenience. None of
them had ever heard of any such legal obligation.

My notar has not replied to my query by e-mail. But I do not need his
response any more.

Now please let's come back to my original query: does anybody here know
a Spanish account number for Endesa? In other words, has anybody here
ever paid to Endesa by transfer?

 





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29 Aug 2011 9:26 AM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

Efrank

 

Have you tried calling the English helpline on:---- 0034 902 52 58 52





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29 Aug 2011 1:04 PM by joanmalaga Star rating in Costa del Sol. 419 posts Send private message

 You cannot pay Sevillana or Telefonica by transfer, impossible! They will never provide you with these details.  Either pay via direct debit or at the bank when bills arrive but if you are not here all the time obviously you cannot do this.

Telefonica bills can be paid at post office, all you need to do is go with your phone number and amount owed and ask to pay for it, the post office will put in their account but wont give out their details.

Joan





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30 Aug 2011 9:10 AM by efrank Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

I know nothing about Sevillana. I know that I refuse to go to a bank
in Spain just to pay Telefonica on a mistery account. And they have
nicely folded their tail. Of course, I gave up on my land line. If you
want to keep it, you don't have my options.

Have you ever paid by transfer to Endesa? Do you know anybody who did?


 





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30 Aug 2011 11:39 AM by foxbat Star rating in Granada. 1112 posts Send private message

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eFrank...

1) Sevillana is a part of the old name for Sevillana-Endesa.

2) Payment of Endesa accounts is by Direcr Debit or online through endesaonline.com; it is necessary to open an online account to use this facility. These are the only two payment options.

3) If you wait long enough you will get a registered letter from Endesa whereby the only payment option is via Correos. This normally occurs when they are about to cut off power to your home or have already done so. It will not however detail the bank account number. This information is private, just as yours is.

At no point in time will any company disclose its bank account details as a matter of course. If you were running a business would you? It's just too liable to hacking.

This is not just a Spanish thing it applies equally in the UK. Even UK D/D payments do not disclose the bank account number of the recipient unless the recipient chooses to reveal the information.

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30 Aug 2011 4:01 PM by efrank Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

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At no point in time will any company disclose its bank account details as a matter of course. If you were running a business would you? It's just too liable to hacking. 

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It's not about disclosing all your accounts. It's about stating ONE account where an invoice can be paid.

All invoices in Germany carry a bank account, is hacking there worse than in Spain?

For your information, a bank account number is not an opportunity for hackers. Hacking on the net depends on URLs and server vulnerabilities. Forget the bank account and urban legends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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30 Aug 2011 4:46 PM by foxbat Star rating in Granada. 1112 posts Send private message

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Yawn....

How many times do people have to say it?

Payment to Endesa is by Direct Debit or online. These are the two payment options Endesa have chosen to adopt.

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Endesa is not arguing that I am obliged to have a bank account.
They say "We only do direct debiting, take it leave it". I say
"I will pay by transfer".

This is not an option. You won't win against Endesa...

Jeez... answering a post on the forum these days is a bit like...

 

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31 Aug 2011 9:36 AM by efrank Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

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How many times do people have to say it? 

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I never asked for advice. I never asked for thumbsucks.

My question was and is: do you know any Spanish bank account number for Endesa? Please leave the legal fight to me.





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31 Aug 2011 9:52 AM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

QUOTE:-    How many times do people have to say it? 
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I never asked for advice. I never asked for thumbsucks.
My question was and is: do you know any Spanish bank account number for Endesa? Please leave the legal fight to me.

 

Sorry but:-    do you know any Spanish bank account number for Endesa
Seems like asking for advice, but I maybe wrong.
 
May I request, on behalf of all those who make the effort and take the time to try to assist people here, that a little respect would not go amiss.
And, although you may have considerable experience with forums (but only 7 posted here)  that if you take the care to phrase a question in a completely unambiguous form, you are more likely to get the answer to the question you are asking.   However, even then, forums do tend to go off thread and one must accept, with good grace, the good with the less good.





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31 Aug 2011 10:25 AM by SMYTHIE Star rating. 145 posts Send private message

 It seems, as ever, there are non so deaf as those who will not hear. If you dont understand all the answers you have received on here how will you carry out a legal fight?





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