Clarification of the Horizontal Law of Property

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25 Oct 2012 7:26 AM by nigel188 Star rating in Estepona. 655 posts Send private message

 Hi Decordiva

We are also  having the same problem on our Urbanisation on 363 Properties consisting of  2 Adjoining Apartment Blocks with shared entrance lobbys,lifts,staircases,etc as well as Duplexes,Villas and Houses.
 

Maybe Maria of Costaluz Lawyers can clarify  these Issues in one her Legal Blogs.

 

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24 Oct 2012 9:30 PM by Decordiva Star rating. 8 posts Send private message

This is hugely helpful, I feel we are being taken for being stupid and not being given clear and concise information however it seems this is a huge change for the community to undertake and we are being blinded with irrelevant information in order to force this through without any voting structure in place.

We are just being told this is how it is and this is what is going to happen.

Thank you, I will keep you updated on progress

 





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24 Oct 2012 8:57 PM by Jacksonsadmin Star rating in Marbella , Malaga. 78 posts Send private message

 Hello;  This is a debatable point of community law where the community statutes are of some age & have come into conflict with the revised LPH.

Firstly ; I am surprised the matter has not been put  to a vote in the AGM of the community as a majority against or for would have been established which is a starting point in community legal matters. Hence the owners should serve notice on the community secretary by recorded delivery that this matter be debated at the forthcoming AGM as a agenda point to vote on. If the AGM is some time away & then if there are more than 25% of the community against it ( I note you say micro communities so this would mean each to have 25 % of their own quota for their own meeting of necessary) then a EGM can be called using this mechanism to vote on the matter.

The section of the LPH 10.1 obliges the community to undertake the upkeep & maintenance of the constructed areas you describe.Given this is the national law of Spain for communities then it would be superior to the statutes of the community.Which is basically the point the board & administrator is making in their communication to you.

With regard to the statutes & unanamity ;  the changes to them does not always require 100%  of the quota. In section17.1 of the LPH it is a requirement of 2/3 of the quotas but with consent of a affected owner required to change common services & facilities .In my opinion the constructed areas you describe fall outside of this clause and hence a ammendment to the statutes would need 100% of the quota in favor.

The vote following debate of the problem by the owners should be able to be agreed including the size of the budget for the community needed to maintain it's structures wether by extra fund or increased annual budget .

The solution in my view to this issue is in the budget requirement  not in the court room as the annual budget or extra fund can not be enforced on the members but must be approved by the member's vote in a formal meeting.Hence if the majority do not want the community to attend to their structure then they will not approve the funds to do the same . Hence the desicion lies with the members who decide by majority where their money is spent & how much.

I hope this helps.

F.Parkinson . Administradore.



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24 Oct 2012 7:34 PM by Decordiva Star rating. 8 posts Send private message

Can anyone help clarify this issue?

25 years ago I purchased a semi detached terraced house on a development of 105 properties. The development is design and constructed to replicate a white pueblo style village.

It was built on 11 seperate lots, over a 10 year period, in phases. Each plot/phase contains either a detaached property, small rows of 6 to 8 terraced houses and 4 blocks of apartments constructed in groups of 6, one above the other. As each phase was completed it was registered as a micro-community within the overall community. Over 75% of the properties have no shared built areas other than adjoining party walls. The exception being the apartments which share common roofs. ie THere are no shared entrance lobbys, lifts, staircases, etc.

Our statutes (by law) contains a clause which states each Owner is responsible for the exterior repair and maintenance of their individual property. It also states if an Owner fails to keep their property in good condition the Community has the legal right to do the work and charge the Owner for the costs involved. Accordingly this clause on our statutes has been applied and enforced since the inseption of the Community of Owners some 30 years ago.

We have recently been informed by our Board/Administrator this clause in our statutes is now redundant and been superceded by Clause 10 of the Horizontal Law of Property Act and the Community is now legally responsible for the exterior maintenance of all properties in the development. This will include rectifying structural problems, the repair of roofs, balconies, etc and the exterior painting of our houses. In essence it means Owners will be obliged to hand over the external areas of their properties to the Board/Administation to maintain as and when they decide it is necessary, for the forseeable future. To fund the expense it is intended to significantly increase our already high Community fees.

I am aware the Law of Horizontal Property was amended by Law 8/99 and it´s purpose is to state a general legal framework acting as a common denominator for all communities in Spain. I understand in addition to these general Laws the Community Statutes legally determine the unique/specific requirements of each Community of Owners. I also understand to change/amend these Statutes requires unanimity amongst all Community Owners.

The questions I am trying to clarify are
Is our Board/Administration correct in stating the Clause in our Statutes has been superceeded by the Law of Horizontal Property Act Clause 10 and are we now legally obligated to hand over the external areas of our properties to the Board for repair and maintenance?

If the answer is yes will our Statutes need to be amended to clarify, to both current and future owners, they no longer are responsible for the external areas of their properties? If so will this require unanimity amongst the Owners before this legally can take place?

If anyone can shed any light on this I would appreciate it!




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