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29 Jul 2016 5:05 PM by baz1946 Star rating. 2327 posts Send private message

Hold on a minute!! If you turn the caravan around to face the opposite direction the door then becomes kerb side 

Yes that would work out quite well....If you had a towbar at the caravans butt end...And lights...And, oh never no mind.

 





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29 Jul 2016 5:39 PM by baz1946 Star rating. 2327 posts Send private message

NCC Approved?

Most caravans sold in the UK will carry a National Caravan Council (NCC) Approved badge. The NCC is the UK trade body for the caravan and motorhome industry and has a certification scheme covering many aspects of caravan design from gas installations and water systems to emergency exits and tyre specifications. 

Some continental caravans sold in the UK will not carry the NCC Approved logo. This isn’t necessarily a problem but you will need to make your own checks on the design and build quality of the caravan and be sure it conforms to UK regulations, since you will be personally responsible for it being roadworthy. Remember also that most continental caravans have their doors on the ‘wrong’ side, which can make a difference when pitching on some campsites.





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29 Jul 2016 10:00 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

Most people do not give advice without personal experience, but some give counter advice with no knowledge.

If you try to register a caravan in most of Spain unfortunately you will find it is not a myth.

Certainly you can come from the UK and tour around Spain with a UK registered car and caravan no problem. The problem comes when you move to Spain and try to rigister your UK caravan in Spain.

I know someone who had his caravan stuck beside his villa for 6 years because he could not get it registered due to the door being on the wrong side. Now he did tell me he could get it registered in a province (I have forgotten which) in the N of Spain but decided that if he was going to take a chance and try to do that he might as well get someone to take it back to the UK

A Tad out of order again.

 

 

 


This message was last edited by tteedd on 29/07/2016.



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30 Jul 2016 7:30 AM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

Tteedd

Other advice would seem to contradict what you day and a topic on the caravan club us as adamant as you

So do I belive you or others on this forum or do I believe the caravan club forum / experience 

Maybe it is regional maybe not if it is that would be very confusing 

As I said go see /ask an expert not .............

eidted to add links for info (plenty more on web if you do a search)

http://www.caravantalk.co.uk/community/topic/102893-registering-your-car-and-caravan-on-spanish-plates/

 

 


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30 Jul 2016 9:04 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

As you are certain then you could offer to bankroll the process for Spiv?

You get you money back if it succeeds?





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30 Jul 2016 9:12 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

First site I Googled - tumbit.com    (Spain)

 

"In the case of UK caravans, most of the time you will find that when caravans are over 5/6 years old, that you cannot obtain the necessary documentation and must assemble the "ficha tecnica" from scratch, which in most cases is a nigh on impossible task. Also, the construction and style of some makes of UK caravan prohibit them from becoming road legal on Spanish plates (Largely due to the fact that the door is situated on the “wrong side“ of the Caravan) 

For more information on importing your caravan onto Spanish plates you should contact a specialised gestoria who will be able to advise you on your particular case. If you should consult with a specialist who also includes the presenting of your caravan to the ITV station, then it is recommended that you check that they are suitably insured."





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31 Jul 2016 9:49 AM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

Tteedd 

Like most things as clear as mud especially for the non experts and once again shows we should not really take on board the blanket statements from know it alls wink



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31 Jul 2016 8:49 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

01 Aug 2016 9:43 AM by Hephaestus Star rating in The Peak District Na.... 1230 posts Send private message

Definition of EXPERT (please ignore the S)

EX as being a has been and SPERT as being a drip under pressure. cheeky 



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01 Aug 2016 3:12 PM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

I sent this email to Ask the police in UK:- 

 Regarding the matter of a UK resident driving a foreign registered car,
previously deemed illegal by the DVLA, I received last week a letter from
DVLA.

Amongst other comments the letter states that 'In the circumstances where a
UK resident is using an EU registered vehicle in the UK on a temporary
basis, on a visit from their holiday home, for example, they are entitled to
use the vehicle when visiting the UK.

We will be looking to amend the wording on the website to ensure this
information is correctly reflected.



 

I just got this email from the Police in UK


Thank you for your email.

In our opinion, where a foreign registered vehicle is owned by an EU citizen who is a UK resident and who drives the vehicle in the UK:
1. the vehicle cannot be used as a Temporary Import as the owner/keeper is now a resident.
2. the vehicle would require re-registration in the UK and a VED.
3. once re-registered it would require a UK insurance policy and the foreign insurance would no longer meet the requirements of UK law.

We hope this information is of use.

Regards,
PNLD
(CS)

 


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01 Aug 2016 5:28 PM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

again not answering or asking the right question!

ownership and place of residence is a different question and brings different rules

nothing stopping a UK resident driving my Spanish plated car in the UK if I visit the UK and take my Spanish car

nothing stopping a Spanish resident driving a foreign registered car in Spain that is owned by someone else and in Spain legally

which at the end of the day rejects the blanket statement

"a Spanish resident cannot drive a foreign regsitered car in Spain" - this is INCORRECT information.

this has been quoted on this forum and misunderstood by many on this forum (inlcuding myself) it did not make sense which is why I checked and why nothing happemd when I got stopped recently as said previously



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01 Aug 2016 7:16 PM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4551 posts Send private message

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"nothing stopping a Spanish resident driving a foreign registered car in Spain that is owned by someone else and in Spain legally"

Well, that depends: I cannot drive my sister-in-law's UK reg car, even in the UK, because her insurance company won't accept me as a named driver because I'm not a UK resident and don't have a UK licence. Before you shoot me down, I'm not quoting Tony's law here, just stating a fact of her specific insurance policy. So, by extension, I cannot drive her car in Spain if she brings it over here on holiday.

"which at the end of the day rejects the blanket statement "a Spanish resident cannot drive a foreign regsitered car in Spain" - this is INCORRECT information."

OK, so being pedantic, it may be true there are exceptions to the "blanket" statement, but the reply John got from the UK police, which as you rightly say is not answering the question asked, proves that even the authorities are confused by the issue. But the gist of it is correct in most circumstances, and all this point proving (and talk of caravans) doesn't really help the OP, does it? 

She has never registered as a resident, but clearly her legal status is that of resident. So clearly she should re-register her UK plated car in Spain. However, as long as he is covered on the insurance, I can see no legal reason  why her BF can't drive it here. Of course, once he becomes resident himself, if he gets stopped he's going to have to explain that it's not his car, that it belongs to his GF, and hope that they don't deduce that she's a resident!

Really, this is like the argument over whether or not you have to exchange your UK licence for a Spanish one. Everybody has their own opinion (especially Tony) but at the end of the day, why make life harder for yourself? Staying indefinitely? Register as a foreign resident; change your licence; re-register your car (or buy a Spanish plated car); sleep at night. Simples!



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01 Aug 2016 8:13 PM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

Roberto

You are correct had a similar problem with uk insurance but aviva accepted me on uk insurance 

Too many blanket statements 

 

Yes we have gone away from OP question and gone off thread but again this is due to the inaccurate blanket statements and there are many including DL's taxes 183 day rule and caravans etc 

All can be a good guide but as I have said before not as black and white as some state and these should be questioned sadly some can't accept they may sometimes be wrong or even given the wrong info even on google



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