confusing; associations, platforms and cooperatives

Blue Med Invest
Post reply   Start new thread
New - Old :: Old - New

Pages: 1 |

Trampolin Hills forum threads
The Comments
18 Mar 2010 12:00 AM by ogo Star rating in Norway. 125 forum posts Send private message

It seems today that we have at least two associacions, platforms, forums, cooperatives, or what you would like to call them:  www.afectadostrampolin.com and http://www.asociacionafectadostrampolin.com
 

Could someone please in a SIMPLE and EASY way explain to me if the people behind these sites works towards the same goal???

My perception is like we are now in a war of religion, but we worship the same God. History has shown that nothing good comes out of battles like this - except that the oposition (the devil - if you like) gets stronger

Confusianism - I do not know how to trust, but we all need to be perceived in a proffessional and sensible manner.

So for me, being on the safe side, I have chosen to support ALL good forces working towards solving this situation one way or the other. with or without money -

The only person I really thrust, in all of this, is myself. I do my own judgements and take my own decisions - and no one gets very far with me by "scaring me" to chose their side

With two different groups we can risk confusion and "internal" battles that will defragment what we all are trying to achieve. But then again I could be wrong and it is the same...I am confused!!! 

We must join forces as a minimum towards the good things that are now happening towards the European Union -

Together with EU we could influence the Spanish Authorities to give Guarantees (maybe even together with the European Union) to get the building started. This will solve some of the unemployment problems in Spain and give the European Union a good story to tell (win win situation is always the easiest way)

That is at least my thoughts for tonight.

Stay tuned and keep up all the good work

OGO



_______________________
OGO


Like 0

Spam post or Abuse? Please let us know

19 Mar 2010 6:56 PM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

Latest news taken from "La verdad" today

 

The resolution from the comercial court n.1 of murcia can dramatically reduce the chances of home buyers to recover their money, since the land would have a much lower value  and takes no agreement allowing to build the development in Campos del Rio

Now down to the bear bones of the situation, the hundreds of buyers in the residential urbanisation of Trampolin Hills Golf Resort Campos del Río, who have neither home nor have recovered the money paid on account, that justice was declared invalid in urban reclassification of the land on which was to be built this development.
And that is precisely what has just the owner of the Court of Administrative Disputes number 1 of Murcia, José Miñarro, who just set the invalidity/cancellation of the agreements of the Plenary of the Municipality of Campos del Rio, held on 26 May 2005 and the adoption of the planning agreement between the commercial Hills Trampolin and the Consistory, and the amendment of the Municipal
Planning Subsidiary Regulations for the project'.
Translated into less technical language, this means that the court has buried the agreement of the reclassification of the land on the part of the council, in addition also the agreement signed with promoter Antonio Martínez for the building , as compensation for letting him urbanize, of a new town hall with an investment of 2.5 million.

The ruling is the result of the action which brought the Popular Party in 2007, considering that the agreement had been made in plenary in breach of the law. Thus, the lawyer Jose Antonio Izquierdo, acting on behalf of the party, showed that the Socialist Group, the then Mayor Ricardo Valverde in front, had approved the reclassification without having had the required financial report on the project. A document that is absolutely necessary in the case of a project such as Trampolin Hills, which could eventually double the population of Campos del Rio and require utilities to forecast, but maybe not ready local administration.
Moreover, reported that the City had agreed 'contrary to law, "the construction of a new town hall, amounting to EUR 2.5 million, forgetting the requirements of the Contract Act, which requires the attribution of a work of such magnitude complying with the principle of competition, and not granted by agreement.

He also noted that there had been publicized administrative acts adopted.
The judge has now given reason to the PP and, because of such mistakes in their day by the team of socialist rule, supersedes the reclassification of the land and the agreement with the promoter group Trampoline Hills.
which is a huge blow for customers hoping to gain the land. 

The court decision means in practice a blow to the purchasers of the houses in this resort, and greatly complicating the chances of a day they will recover all or part of the money paid on account and, according to developer's own admission, reached a total of over 52 million.
In particular, both the employer Antonio Martínez as were buyers were confident that the land ', numbering about two million square feet, could be sold for a large sum, to be rezoned urban links, and this would then allow the return of part of the debt.

Not surprisingly, the promoter brandished a recent report of an audit, which valued the land at about 87 million.
If the decision of the Commercial Court No. 1 of Murcia, which can be appealed, were to be ratified and become firm, the land would lose the status of being developable and there by support , the bulk of its asset, a
nd the chances of reaching a satisfactory solution would be minimized.


Latest news taken from La verdad,

 

Are they for real....what a total lack of compasion for all the investors left in a total mess whilst they go making and breaking agreements!!! where were the administration when they new the 1000,s of sales were being made by this company if they new that they should not have been....p.s Ogo ...It seems that the main afectados group that seems the most authentic would be that headed by Joaquin Guzman the lawyer..it has been mentioned on the Spanish forum that the other group headed by one of the persons I think called "cristobal" and his friends could be interlinked with Trampolin...dont know but this has been mentioned on the forum as people were anoyed this group were asking for money from people and seemed to have links as I said to Trampolin....therefore me personally would only support the group headed by Joaquin Guzman who seemed to be also making a case for claiming the land for the buyers..however after reading the above in the paper "La verdad" really dont know if this now would be possible.

Sollel

 




Like 0

Spam post or Abuse? Please let us know

20 Mar 2010 12:28 AM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

Hi Ogo

In response to your query below is some info translated from the Spanish Forum about the association that seems the most authenic (i,e not connected to Trampolin)...see below:.

In the end we have decided to make an association, which must be called ""Plataforma de Acreedores Ordinarios Procedimiento 20/2009".
 

Although a long and ugly name, we should call it that because at this point Bankruptcy Judges and Administrators will attend only concrete things . A party with that name can apply pressure on the court.
And we bucked other "Associations" and avoid confusion.
At the end this is an association of people affected, but affected real (ie us).
Free, no cost whatsoever.
(How much the costs of an agent and attorney will be distributed to all few euros and that would enter directly into the account of them .with full transparency).
It is thought that while we are partners, for authorization for the proposed annexation to bankruptcy. (Because we have no time)

HOW TO JOIN? (also attach a document in this email)

A scanned copy with signature and NIF in half a page to read:
This document serves as the most faithful AUTHORIZATION to associate myself with:
""Plataforma de Acreedores Ordinarios Procedimiento 20/2009".
"
and that my personal data contained in your database.
Authorizing my vote to be counted at the Meeting of Creditors.

For the record anywhere at the request of the Platform, 


 
Mr/ Mrs.........................., associated with the DNI ................... ........... signed this
In ..................... to 15.3.2010 


 
Signed.: ........................


HOME ADDRESS FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMMUNICATIONS: (complete address)

EMAIL:
PHONES: 

  
 
PURPOSE: The defense of the unsecured creditors Competition 20/2009 Mercantile Court Procedure 2 in Murcia
OBJECTIVES: To obtain the refund partners of their claims over compensation with minimum shrinkage either in cash or assets of the debtor's case 20/2009.

COMMENTS: (if anyone here will have bought more than one dwelling, the total amount delivered, which will serve to measure whether we have reached the minimum number of credits that require us)





All this send scanned (preferably on the same sheet) to the following email address: concurso@afectadostrampolin.com 
that has been organised by Pablo de Hoyos, the creator of the forum.

Thanks Sollel



Like 0

Spam post or Abuse? Please let us know

20 Mar 2010 12:41 AM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

Just to add..that it seems that those on the Spanish forum for the "afectados" are urging to unite stronger than ever (by sending them authorization of your data for this... see post below ) now with the latest news received about the land...(again see my post below) so that they can add the names and the weight to take this case wherever it needs to go inorder to gain some justice and concience in this ridiculous saga..as they see it we will be left high and dry if the courts/ administration/ council have their way (and seems they could quite easily brush all this under the carpet along with any responsibility that there could be ) and so we need to keep pushing this forward anyway possible.

 

Thanks Sollel




Like 0

Spam post or Abuse? Please let us know

26 Mar 2010 6:35 PM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

pps.....just to add that it has now been said that anyone who is sending in their details to the pressure group...mentioned in my post/s below...should do so before the 31st of March when it will be the most effective.

 

 

Sollel




Like 0

Spam post or Abuse? Please let us know

31 Mar 2010 1:09 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

EOS Supporter

Please be informed that the Administrator appointed by the court in the meeting of creditors has already issued his report regarding Trampolin financing status and his proposal for the outcome of the meeting. He proposes to liquidate trampolin and states that the transfer of lands and assest to the creditors / affecteds cannot be accepted because is forbidden by the law. Obviously the creditors have 10 days to appeal, but the target of the associations or platforms who intended to get lands transferred in their names seems very complicated now, and my opinion is that they have a long legal way to walk with low guarantees of success.




Like 0

Spam post or Abuse? Please let us know

Pages: 1 |
Post reply   Start new thread


Previous Threads

PLATAFORMA ACREEDORES TRAMPOLIN (MONEY BACK / OBTAIN THE LAND) - 0 posts
Registering as a creditor in the Trampolin Hills administration debacle! - 14 posts
Where has the money gone - 36 posts
We should plan to involve the Spanish Government and/or EU - 16 posts
ALL OR NOTHING NOW - 10 posts
BUYERS FOR THE BUILDING OF TRAMPOLIN HILLS - 19 posts
DEADLINE DECEMBER 2nd to apply to courts - 1 posts
GM LEGAL EXPERTS - 3 posts
EVERYTHING YOU NEEDTO KNOW ABOUT THE SITUATION WITH GRUPO TRAMPOLIN - 8 posts
ANY FURTHER INFO - 1 posts
We don't know where to start with our problems regarding Trampolin Hills can anyone answer any of our questions - 2 posts
The informer - 5 posts
Trampolin Hills promoters ordered to pay €30 million bail - 4 posts
GT went down the drain - OK, but who will finalize the project? - 9 posts
Trampolin Hills in Bankruptcy Protection - article in today's Laverdad - 23 posts
Sorry to be the bearer of "Bad News" - 1 posts
advice - 5 posts
Local Government in Campos del Rio - 2 posts
MORE NEWS - 57 posts
Following posted on TH website.... - 6 posts
TH has updated the web - 4 posts
Rumour - 5 posts
Trampolin HIlls wasteland! - 1 posts
News - 1 posts
New information on TH web - 2 posts

6 posts were found:


1 |
Our Weekly Email Digest
Name:
Email:


This site uses cookies. By continuing to browse you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More information here. x