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15 Apr 2014 2:27 PM by Frankthegolfer Star rating. 1 posts Send private message

So its 42 months later. Hopefully some people would like to give me an update on things on Camposol?





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15 Apr 2014 2:53 PM by floella Star rating in SE Spain. 803 posts Send private message

Went to Camposol for the first time, and probably the last, a couple of weeks ago.
Was truly very very disappointed in the overall view of the place which, apart from a couple of houses, looked extremely scruffy and uncared for.
Regardless of legalities a lick of paint on the houses wouldn't go amiss . Even if they are just used for holidays.

People were very friendly though and it is an ideal place to live for those seeking constant company and activities.



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15 Apr 2014 3:44 PM by camposol Star rating in Camposol. 1406 posts Send private message

I'm really surprised that you thought most of the houses were scruffy- I would say, living there that most of the houses were well cared for, with lovely gardens. How much of it did you see? Did an estate agent show you round? True, some need a coat of paint, but this area suffers a lot of Sahara winds, which , combined with rain, quickly turns a white villa into a dirty, streaky one.
Various gardening groups maintain each sector, it's a big task.
A lot of money has been spent on Mazarron and the port, up grading and improving facilities
If you want a villa on a big plot, close to amenities, near blue flag beaches, relatively unspoilt villages,plenty of interesting places to visit, you won't do much better than Camposol.

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15 Apr 2014 4:19 PM by floella Star rating in SE Spain. 803 posts Send private message

A group of us went to the Thursday market, and we all thought the same. So mostly sector B and the bars and shops there.
Then , after lunch in the same sector, we drove around the golf club house area.

As you say there is an enormous task to maintain it but if, with exception of a couple of bright white houses with blue roofs, others in this area painted theirs one wouldn't notice the scrubland areas which are a common sight in Spain and disregarded when faced by a backdrop of well tended properties.

We also have the red dust that combined with infrequent rain makes our white property look grim but it takes a more than a couple of years before a house looks as unloved as these did so don't think some of these houses have ever been painted.
Can only assume that these are either abandoned or just for holidays use ones.

Just think it a pity because otherwise the place could be ideal for those who desire to live in such a friendly community with every service provided for.



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16 Apr 2014 5:52 PM by camposol Star rating in Camposol. 1406 posts Send private message

It is just not the case! It is not a matter of opinion, but fact.The majority of houses are attractive and have nice gardens, often with decorative walls etc. There are a small number, out of 5,000, as on any estate or urbanisation in the world, that have been neglected.
Making statements like yours, which are inaccurate don't do much to help those selling on Camposol.
Come again and take time to have a proper look!



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17 Apr 2014 1:19 AM by aliton Star rating. 331 posts Send private message

This thread is almost 4 years old !!.  But update is asked for . ... We purchased a house on Camposol through Mercers estate agents in September 2012 , Mercers were very good to deal with. We bought our house on Camposol for holidays and family and have never regretted it.  Yes.... the area still needs to be finished off but its not THAT  bad and with  lots of hard working community groups of volunteers all four sectors are improving every year on an ongoing basis.  Where can you buy a substantial house in Spain for the same money ??.. We almost purchased at Condado but we chose CAMPOSOL ...., Why ? , No community fees to pay for starters.  People come over to Camposol  to live there for the great weather, the social life and everything you need is "on tap".. which is   , Lots of bars and restaurants to go to, entertainment every day and every night. bar prices are very competitive , a great big supermarket.. an ex pat community who make it a place with a "special atmosphere" . Lots of retired people purchased on this urbanization.... Why ? becuase its handy to have everything you need in one small "town"  with population of 5000 - 7000 in summer .  I dissagree with a poster who says the houses  need painting... where have they been staying ??.  Look AT "Rightmove Camposol"  property website and you will see hundreds of stunning DETACHED villas for sale from 300k to 70k and even lower for terraced houses.. most of them though are DETACHED with private POOL.   When we go to Spain we can fly from UK to Murcia OR Alicanti . On arrival we will find cheap car hire. We drive to Camposol in 45 or 75 minutes. Then we are just 12 minutes from the beaches . We have lovely neighbours from all over europe . We have medical centre , Dentist, 3 cashpoints, 2 vets, bowling ally, about 11 bars,  9 places to eat and a proper fish and chips shop, Huge Chinese store sells everything , Travel Agent and Car Hire, Post office, 3 Banks, Petrol station, Chemist, 2 other supermarkets, English Butcher, Cake shops, DIY shops, Golf Course, Communal pools, Insurance offices, solicitors, Funeral Directors, electrical stores , free WiFI , 4 Hairdressers, local bus service to Totana and Mazarron. Oh and yes not forgetting the car wash , plus five estate agents . Translators offices.....If you need it Camposol has it.... we like to mix with people from all over europe while on holiday and meet some interesting folk... fact that about 70% are british is no issue to us. If we want the Real Spain we can go off in the car and come back to Camposol for happy hour 1.50 a pint ! ... over 320 days of sunshine guaranteed on our large roof terrace... lovely...

Yes, and on top of all of this Rates ( Council tax) .. very low and we have street lights working.. our Property Deeds and paperwork are all in order so we are very happy ... now have a look at "Rightmove Camposol " .....

 


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10 Dec 2014 1:13 PM by surveyor Costa Blanca Star rating in Valencia. 10 posts Send private message

I am a surveyor with extensive experience of Camposol. It is true that there are areas of Camposol that have not been affected by ground movement or recent flooding i.e. there are some good properties on Camposol, but, read this carefully..  it is also fact that there are various zones and entire roads of houses that suffer significant ongoing structural movement. I am acting as expert witness for a large group of residents for a structural damages case that will be heard in Madrid courts. A second group action of more affected residents will commence in early 2015. Some houses have been abandoned on Camposol. Some buildings insurers will not insure on parts of Camposol. Homes from Hell have featured Camposol in two of their programmes.

A few agents in the area have avoided taking on houses in bad areas, others are actively promoting properties with serious structural defects as 'bargains' on the very streets where many action group members live.

Anybody thinking of buying on Camposol should seek independent professional advice so as to confirm if you have found a good example or a bad one. You have been warned!

You can easily find out more by searching 'Camposol defects' online including 'camposol' via Youtube.

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10 Dec 2014 2:32 PM by camposol Star rating in Camposol. 1406 posts Send private message

 

On an urbanisation of 4,500 villas, some have had problems, mainly on areas of D sector, and some on C.

The majority of houses  have none,.

Yes there are horrendous stories on YouTube , but anyone thinking of buying on Camposol should not think that is  all that Camposol is about. It is not just "Homes from Hell", and it is really stirring it to keep emphasising these programmes.

There are hundreds of posts about Camposol on several  ex pat forums, many giving a far more balanced view of the place.

There is not a mass exodus of  residents fleeing Camposol- far from it, many are choosing to live here. 

Your doom laden post is hardly helpful, and could be damaging to those wishing to sell properties that are sound and brilliant value for money.

I agree of course, that  anyone buying should check the property out, as you would with any property, anywhere.

Estate agents promoting properties known to have serious defects are morally irresponsible.

I don't know why you felt you had to post on here, condemning an urbanisation that is actually a very good place to live and which has undergone and is undergoing , huge improvements.





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10 Dec 2014 3:04 PM by surveyor Costa Blanca Star rating in Valencia. 10 posts Send private message

Yes you are right there are good sides to Camposol and as I have stated there are also good properties there. My business is to help buyers to avoid mistakes when investing. It can be very difficult for a buyer to understand what they are purchasing. I have met numerous people in Spain that have lost their dreams and money by buying the wrong property because they did not have a survey. There are lots of good property examples available and making a bad investment can be avoided if buyers take care.



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10 Dec 2014 6:26 PM by aliton Star rating. 331 posts Send private message

I agree with Camposols reply . ** EDITED **. Camposol stretches 5 miles from one side to the other and consists of 5000 houses. So 4800 are just fine to buy and great value at this time

One area does have  problems in certain streets due to the builders mistakes (big mistakes) but these are not even 1% of a vast resort.

I believe your professionalism comes into question" big style" with such a post on this subject , a post made 4 years ago... i e "unprofessional scaremongering".Im sure most EOY ers will see through it!

 

 


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23 Apr 2015 11:34 AM by 2015propertynigel Star rating. 2 posts Send private message

Hi There, 

Having read all comments and opinions on this thread I have mixed feellings about looking at this development. Are there any further updates from residents of Camposol who can give an insight into improvements andd ongoing issues which would cause concern if choosing to buy on the development, I look forward to your comments, thanks. 





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23 Apr 2015 12:56 PM by camposol Star rating in Camposol. 1406 posts Send private message

Firstly go on to the "cracamposol "site and read all about it. The cra bit means Camposol Residents Association.

then go to "Murcia today "which has a lot of info on Camposol

a lot has been achieved in the last few years.

the council has adopted Camposol and therefore has a much greater interest in it.

unlike other urbanisations with entities, Camposol

 does not have community charges in addition to the IBI ( council tax) 

lighting which was an issue in some parts is being addressed at this very moment.

the problem areas  in D and C have been highlighted and are in the process of being fixed.

this will take some time, but remember it is only a small part of the urbanisation.

there are many lovely houses at good prices eg 3 bed 3 bathroom villa on 600 sq metre plot with 9 x 5 pool 250-290 k euros

we now have roadsweepers, voluntary gardening groups all of which have improved the general appearance

on the commercial centres there is a greater variety of amenities

there is a medical centre and pharmacy

we now have a market every Thursday.

if, when you have done your research, and have any specific questions, let me know.

 


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25 Apr 2015 11:44 AM by Woodbug Star rating. 371 posts Send private message

Think this says it all! Buying anything, anywhere is fraught with danger in Spain. Muddy laws, corrupt officials, amature professionals - buy at your own risk

 

http://murciatoday.com/residents-on-camposol-are-urged-to-check-their-property-paperwork_25632-a.html#.VTtgeXzF_Sk





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25 Apr 2015 3:21 PM by 2015propertynigel Star rating. 2 posts Send private message

Thank you for your comments, and links and suggested websites. I really like the look of the development but am obviously cautious not just here but anywhere I would look to buy. I will research further and hopefully make a visit out there soon. 





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30 Sep 2015 1:19 PM by robedavies Star rating. 1 posts Send private message

In June 2015 we saw a property on the Camposol development and decided to make an offer on the property. We initially paid a payment of 500 euros, to take the property off the market. We instructed our solicitor to carry out the necessary searches. Our solicitor informed us that there was no Habitation Certificate issued and we should not go ahead. On or return to the UK, I carried out further internet searches of the area and discovered other issues that I was not happy with. I informed "Mercers Spanish Property" that we wish not to go ahead with the purchase and to return our initial payment of 500 euros. THERE HAVE NOT RETURNED THE MONEY AND DO NOT REPLY to any of my emails to this date (30th Sept 2015). To take them to court will cost 2000 euros, so they have got away with it.





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30 Sep 2015 2:08 PM by camposol Star rating in Camposol. 1406 posts Send private message

firstly, NO-ONE on Camposol has a certificate of occupation, don't let that put you off

I lived there for 14 years , no problems

Houses are bought and sold without them, no problem-I have just sold mine.

As for puting a reservation fee on a property, you suely know that it is non refundable if you change your mind?





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30 Sep 2015 2:08 PM by camposol Star rating in Camposol. 1406 posts Send private message

firstly, NO-ONE on Camposol has a certificate of occupation, don't let that put you off

I lived there for 14 years , no problems

Houses are bought and sold without them, no problem-I have just sold mine.

As for putting a reservation fee on a property, you surely know that it is non refundable if you change your mind?

 


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30 Sep 2015 2:43 PM by Team GB Star rating. 1245 posts Send private message

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As for putting a reservation fee on a property, you surely know that it is non refundable if you change your mind?

But if you change your mind because certain information regarding the property was concealed or omited that is a different matter.

 



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30 Sep 2015 2:57 PM by Woodbug Star rating. 371 posts Send private message

'firstly, NO-ONE on Camposol has a certificate of occupation'

What? Out of 5000 homes are you telling me that all 5000 buyers just ignored the fact and moved in without an LO? What is the position if the houses are not registered in the buyers name at the land registry? Now MASA has gone into receivership - would the land that these houses have been built on become an asset of the company, as technically it still belongs to them? Why on earth would Camposol be any different to any other urbanisation?  There have been rumours for years about Camposol - most of which I am sure are just that, so isn't it time someone could actually confirm the true position here once and for all?





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30 Sep 2015 4:23 PM by floella Star rating in SE Spain. 803 posts Send private message

Understood the law stated " only property with all paperwork" was permitted to be offered for sale !!!

Seems even the most legally abiding person chooses to pick and choose relevant laws when it suits cheeky

Having written that maybe now questions about Camposol Urb will be answered truthfully by ex residents. Which will can only be to the good. yes





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