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Hi, Jon07,
Food/Household Items: €400-500 pm (obviously, this will depend on your purchase preferences! We spend alot more than this, but we are a family of three).
Electricity: €100-120 pm
Council Taxes : (IBI? Depends on local council, development, etc.) but say about €60 pm
Water: €70 pm
Private Health Insurance: € 300 pm ?
Telephone landline and Internet: €40 pm (deals initially could be less for new contracts - landline is usually about €14 pm itself)
International TV channels: Sky installation (box, dish, etc. - may be less without dish if development has one) about €500 for freeview UK channels, no monthly payment unless you wish to subscribe to paid channels.
Car Licence: Not sure what you mean but if it is annual registration about €90 per annum (don't know whether this changes according to municipality or not)
Car Insurance: Think that one may depend on some personal circumstances and is based on the car value, etc., but probably about €600 per annum (so €50 pm)
If you plan on buying, there will also be community fees, the amount of which will depend on the community you purchase in. Personally (and I think you'll find the consensus may agree) I wouldn't buy initially and would rent. Prices are still forecast to come down in Spain and you will be much better placed in your decision making after renting in an area (or two!) for a while.
I'm giving some 'ballpark' figures and have probably over- and under-estimated and there are probably more expenses that aren't covered above, but hope it helps anyway.
This message was last edited by Pitby on 09/07/2011. This message was last edited by Pitby on 09/07/2011.
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Hi Pitby,
Many thanks indeed for the extremely helpful response.
The only surprise was the estimate for private health insurance (300 Euro PM). We had misguidedly been working on about 130 Euro per month i.e. which is what we currently pay in Australia. Anyway, it appears Spanish private health cover is either very comprehensive or expensive. A standard doctor's visit or dental check in Australia is about 50 Euro & I was wondering how that compares with Spain ?
We had estimated our total monthly outgoings @ about 2300 Euro i.e. for a couple based on owning their property & excluding holidays - does that appear about right ?? For general information, a similiar standard of living in Australia would be about double plus comparable property could be 6 times more - no fun !!
Have had a look at Duquesa Village where you live - appears really nice !
Thanks again for your assistance,
Jon
PS: This is probably off topic but wondering if anyone is living around (or familiar with) Benahavis or the Los Arqueros or La Quinta Resorts. Would be most helpful to touch base with anyone living in that area (excluding property agents) - where we are considering buying.
This message was last edited by Jon07 on 10/07/2011.
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Hi Jon07
We have rented (long term) an apartment in 2 of the golf complexes on the way to Benahavis - Benatalaya and Capanes del Golf.
They are both very nice complexes with excellent facilities and good security. We have moved away from there, to Estepona Port, mainly because we felt very isolated as you need a car to do anything (although since we moved they have built a supermarket opposite Benatalaya).
We did encounter other issues in both complexes but that was more to do with personal preference than anything else and so whether they're right for you, will depend on what you're looking for.
Damp and mould have also been an issue in a couple of the apartments we have rented so be aware of that when looking.
If you have any other questions, ask away!
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Hi Jon, Health insurance cost will depend on what cover you choose - I think you can pay anything from about €100 up. You can check out a quote on www.sanitas.es - obviously there are difference insurance companies and that is just one example. I think the standard doctor/dental fee is about the same as you quote.
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Jon
The resorts you talked about are isolated ,you may be looking for seclusion after the full on effects of Sydney life but particulary in winter they can be lonely, I have experience of staying in this area and my wife and I were quite bored after a few weeks.
If i was you I would aim for the Mijas Costa, it has a lot more to do and everything on your door step ,I am slightly biased as I have my property in this area but as I have experience of both over the years I feel I can give a balanced view.
But of course you are going to rent in a few different areas before you buy, also Marbella central is somewhere you may consider
Regards Rod
This message was last edited by rod on 10/07/2011. This message was last edited by rod on 10/07/2011.
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Jon:
The figures given by Pitby are quite on the mark, IMO. Indeed we spend even more on food per month than the figure mentioned by Pitby. And we are two.
I fully agree with other posters who urge you to rent first before making that decision to purchase.
Rod makes a good point about considering Marbella central.
Private health insurance is expensive and is rated on the age band. We found BUPA International to be excellent, if a little expensive. Then again, you get what you pay for. You could look at the website and check them out.
Good luck with everything
Patricia
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Hi Pitby, AJB1, Rod & Patricia,
Your feedback & practical pointers are most appreciated.
Since I do not wish to "hijack" this thread (i.e.about cost of living), I feel its better to start a new thread focusing on places to live in Costa del Sol. Hopefully, you guys will continue contributing.
Cheers,
Jon
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Hi all,
On the cost of living. I have kept an Excel spreadsheet going for the last couple of years.
We (2 of us) live in Calahonda, Which is in Mijas on the Costa del Sol. We live in a 2 bed apartment which we own. No mortgage.
Our com fees are 534 per 3 months (this has gone up a lot because of non-payers).
These are average costs over this time. We actually spend less than this as we don't always spend this much on eating out and Misc items. As can be seen from the list below the total cost of these things is 1149.62 pm. You can add on a few other things but the total still only comes to about 1200 pm.
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Weekly |
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4 weekly |
Car Servicing/Insurance |
€ 17.50 |
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€ 70 |
Diesel |
€ 25 |
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€ 100 |
Community fees |
€ 45.00 |
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€ 180.00 |
Electric |
€ 18.50 |
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€ 75 |
Water |
€ 3.12 |
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€ 12.50 |
Food |
€ 75 |
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€ 300 |
Eating out |
€ 30 |
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€ 120 |
House Insurance |
€ 4 |
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€ 16 |
Miscellaneous |
€ 30 |
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€ 120.00 |
Phone/internet |
€ 7.50 |
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€ 30 |
Skype |
€ .75 |
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€ 1.50 |
IBI/Basura Taxes |
€ 15 |
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€ 60 |
Helicopteros |
€ 7.50 |
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€ 30 |
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My husband and I have been in Spain just under 2 years and have spent most of our savings on unexpected things such as the high cost of making a will, tax on importing an old vehicle, so on, now living on UK State pension between us of 1648 euros, cannot affort health insurance but neither could we in the UK. We live on the outskirts of an old town who does not have many expats (spread around) so no community for the English or spanish lessons, nor are there competion so prices can be higher than UK on some foods. But the good things out here in Spain is the quite roads (unless you are going into big cities) less crime, the Spanish people, the sunshine, and could you afford a house with a pool in England. No not unless you are wealthy but few of us are not. We made the choice so have to make it work and if needs tightenng the belt then that's what we have to do.
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I just want to say how lovely it is to come on a thread and not be hit by negativity after negativity. Although it has made me more determind!
See you all in Feb!
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It depends on where you decide to live, we live inland 40 mins from the coast and we spend a lot less that quoted here.all costs are in Euros not pounds.
Water 10 per month
Electricity 80 per month - we have now changed our water heater, hob to gas so it will be much less.
Food 40-50 per week and we have 3 dogs and we all eat well.
Car tax 68 per year
House insurance 180 per year
Car Insurance 350 per year
Suma 60 per year
Phone and internet 30 per month
Community fees 200 per year
Eating out from 5 to 12 per person thats for menu del dias, three courses
Fags 3.30 a packet. beer, coffee 1 Euro, shorts 2 Euros and thats a treble.
Live in land its much cheaper,hotter in the summer and winter.
We miss nothing living out here and to be honest we couldn't afford to live in England now far to expensive.
People here are so friendly and helpful, the air is much cleaner and the views are amazing. This message was last edited by alancambs on 23/01/2012.
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Look at the date of the original request! I think the survey is over.
Guy
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