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Hi All
Many thanks for all the comments. We are not asking for special treatment as a brit but just fair play as we pay taxes and support the economy here in spain like many others, but from the experience of the event it does not seem comparable to the UK system. So how do they solve and reduce crimes like this and bring the perpetrators to court please, so that I can hopefully understand without feeling 'nothing is going to happen'
regards
Timba
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Timba
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Would you honestly expect an arrest in the UK? unless of course someone actually recognised the perpetraror en flagrente delito
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QUOTE "Many thanks for all the comments. We are not asking for special treatment as a brit but just fair play as we pay taxes and support the economy here in spain like many others, but from the experience of the event it does not seem comparable to the UK system. So how do they solve and reduce crimes like this and bring the perpetrators to court please, so that I can hopefully understand without feeling 'nothing is going to happen'
regards
Timba"
Timba,
All of us here pay out taxes etc. you are not special because of that.
You appear to have been treated as every one would have been in accordance with the Spanish Law, and you ARE complaining about that and saying (demanding almost) that you should be treated differently i.e as you think you would be in ANOTHER country (the UK).
".... it does not seem comparable to the UK system" It is not the UK, it is Spain. There is NO REASON why any country must compare itself with any other country. Just because you are ignorant (do not understand) how criminal investigation is carried out (as you have repeatedly demonstrated in your posts) does not support wild accusations of incompetence and unfair treatment.
As for crime levels. Sorry to be boring but I know from personal knowledge both in Spain and UK that crime levels in Spain are considerably lower than in the UK and arrest level here are high (whilst accepting corruption is almost worse here).
Sorry Timba, I have never said this before to anyone, but if cannot accept life here and conform to the norm, go back to UK and let us who do enjoying living here continue to enjoy it in peace,
PS If you have any serious questions please send me a private message (to save us boring everyone else) and I will do all I can to assist.
This message was last edited by johnzx on 20/08/2011.
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Hi John
Many thanks for your kind words below:
Quote' Sorry Timba, I have never said this before to anyone, but if cannot accept life here and conform to the norm, go back to UK and let us who do enjoying living here continue to enjoy it in peace,
Is it so wrong to want to understand how a system works in a country you live in when you have been subjected to something for the first time.
Timba
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Timba
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NB
I have not ignored the last comment by Timba, but we are now communicating using the private message system:, and I had already replied directly to him.
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John:
Nonetheless I want to quote you again. This makes so much sense.
"It is not the UK, it is Spain. There is NO REASON why any country must compare itself with any other country. Just because you are ignorant (do not understand) how criminal investigation is carried out (as you have repeatedly demonstrated in your posts) does not support wild accusations of incompetence and unfair treatment.
As for crime levels. Sorry to be boring but I know from personal knowledge both in Spain and UK that crime levels in Spain are considerably lower than in the UK and arrest level here are high (whilst accepting corruption is almost worse here).
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Surely if someone whishes to know something would it not be wise to seek out and ask an expert rather than trying to drag out what are only uninformed opinions from those, myself included, who are not wise in the material.
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I bet Timba wishes he had never mentioned this theft. What a strange response from knowallls.
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I did not feel I had anything to add to what has been posted on this thread regarding the actions or non-actions of the police forces in Spain.
However, something I think it important to say, which contradicts the otherwise sterling contributions by Johnz, is the fact that it is normal and an indelible part of life to make comparisons, no matter where you hail from originally.
For example: John Bloggs does a certain job and gets x pounds a week. Joe Soap does a similar job and envies John´s salary, which is higher than his and makes a comparison request.
I have found that most things in life involve comparison of one sort or another.
A true example, which can be used for comparison is, I witnessed an attempted burglary in England, at 10 oclock one morning. I made a mental note of the´description of the two men involved, memorised the make, colour and number plate of the van they used and phoned the police within 10 minutes. I was told there was nobody available but an officer would call after 2pm that day. Two officers came to take a statement. One, spent the entire time talking to his girlfriend on his mobile, while the second officer wrote some notes.
They promised to contact me with any progress. Nothing happened for two months, then I received a call from the police, asking if I was sure the number plate I had given was OK, because, if correct, it meant the van was registered in the same County as the burglary!
I asked if that was not very likely? He replied, "I suppose so".
So, people, if you compare that experience with the police services here, I have no complaints at the moment.
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Excuse me Jannie you said:
Surely if someone wishes to know something would it not be wise to seek out and ask an expert rather than trying to drag out what are only uninformed opinions from those, myself included, who are not wise in the material.
30 years as a UK police officer and 23 years in Spain as a volunteer translator with the police johnzx appears to be well qualified to answer question on the police, in UK and here.
You say you do not have knowledge, does not seem to stop you saying some very odd things though !
And, I notice, unlike many here, including johnzx, you do not show anything on your profile, is that because you have nothing to back up what you say. or are you just too modest ?
This message was last edited by elaineG on 21/08/2011.
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'I don' t have anything on my profile' seems I am wrong again, so sorry I didn't realise this was a dating site sorry.
I am just interested in the goings on.. i.e what's what not who's who
This message was last edited by janie2003 on 21/08/2011.
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Jannie if you had checked my profile you will see I am a married woman, so don't worry about dating as far as I am concerned, you are certainly not my type !
Having info in one's profile can give an indication of how much weight to put on a poster's comments. If the poster has that, they are say a doctor, then any comments on medicine could be taken seriously. Nothing in profile, well, about sums it up, maybe not worth considering !
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Oh dear seems you are judgemental.
Many professions have what is known as a CODE OF CONDUCT.
One of the main points in these is to NEVER be judgemental.
A typical case is a judge who is never given information regarding the plaintiff until after a guilty verdict, as this could influence the outcome of the trial.Every thing should be judged on the facts not opinions.
And if you want medical advice surely it would be wiser to visit a true doctor, after all anyone could claim to be a doctor on here.
I my line of work I had the same rule and had I broken it i would have been out of a job straight away.
However it would appear that you wish to be judgemental hence you answer your own question as to why I have put nothing in my profile.
Carry on judging, oh and who his Jannie
Regards Janie
This message was last edited by janie2003 on 21/08/2011.
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Have I missed the point too ?
A judge cannot be a judge unless he/she has, and can demonstrate, the qualifications.
I tend to agree with Elaine.
" I rest my case " heheheheheh
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You have, what I said is
NEVER be judgemental.So just as well you rest your case cos you aint got one
And it seems you have both taken us off thread
why not start a hate Janie thread
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Surely if someone whishes to know something would it not be wise to seek out and ask an expert rather than trying to drag out what are only uninformed opinions from those, myself included, who are not wise in the material.
Just checked back, seems it was this post that took us off thread.
I apologise for following Janie's lead.
I always was easily lead
hehehehehehe
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Actually it was elaine took it off thread by choose to criticise me
Still who cares its cafe time
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The thread is:- SPANISH ECONONY --- STOLEN PURSE
Surely if someone whishes to know something would it not be wise to seek out and ask an expert rather than trying to drag out what are only uninformed opinions from those, myself included, who are not wise in the material.
Thats on thread ?
Some people think black is white.
You are so funny, heheheheheeh
j
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Of course it's on thread, question who can help answer someone who knows what they are talking about.
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Surely if someone whishes to know something would it not be wise to seek out and ask an expert rather than trying to drag out what are only uninformed opinions from those, myself included, who are not wise in the material.
If we followed that the forum would close down.
(And we would miss you being so funny)
heheheheheh
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