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03 Sep 2008 12:00 AM by Lawbird Star rating. 59 posts Send private message

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First Occupancy Licence

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What is it?

Upon the granting of the Certificate of End of Construction (CEC), the developer may apply for a First Occupancy Licence (spelled LFO or FLO for short, AKA as “Cédula de Habitabilidad” in some parts of Spain). The LFO is a an Administrative licence which the Town Hall where the development is located issues and validates that the development fully complies with the original Building Licence (BL) granted by that same town hall as well as complying fully with all Planning laws. The inspection to grant this Licence is carried out by town hall chartered technicians that certify that the dwelling fully complies with health, access, security, planning and construction laws and is deemed fully fit for human habitation.

No one can hurry up the granting of the LFO, neither the developer nor us the lawyers; its granting depends solely on the Spanish town hall’s civil servants. The Town Hall will allow time for the developer to mend any planning irregularities or pending work.


How long does a LFO take to be granted?


This will depend on various factors. If the town hall technicians detect irregularities in the development or deviations from the original BL then the LFO will be delayed until the developer fixes these problems. In a smaller town you can reasonably expect the LFO to be issued within a few months of having submitted the CEC providing the development has no major irregularities. In large cities, such as Marbella, the granting may be pulled back even six months or more due to the work overload of the Town Hall.

Why is it needed?

The owner of the property needs it because the official utilities that offer supplies (water, electricity, gas, telecommunications) require under Spanish law the LFO to hook up the dwelling to the supply grid. Although in some parts of Spain there have been reported cases of supply companies waiving this and connecting you without said Licence and may only require the application of having requested the LFO from the Town Hall.

Is every off-plan development issued a LFO?

Yes. A development is normally compromised by various phases as it’s built in various stages over time. For each of these phases a LFO may be granted by the town hall. So for example in a huge development of 300 units grouped in 4 phases there could be 4 LFO, one for each phase. This could well mean that even within the same finished development some properties may be legal (with a LFO granted) and others units are not habitable yet legally. You could only tell which are legal by means of hiring a lawyer who will advise you on the matter.

What risks are there if there is no LFO granted?

The lack of granting a LFO by the town hall after 2-3 years of having submitted the CEC normally underlies a serious problem. Said problem can arise from a myriad of causes such as planning problems (i.e. the development had only been granted a BL for two storey’s and four have been built or the property has been built in an area zoned as Green Belt), it could mean there might be a health hazard because there is a breach of the Health law (i.e. the sewage pipeline is incorrectly laid out).

One of the most recent cases occurred in the peaceful town of Catral in Valencia, Costa Blanca, developments have been finished and sold without the LFO granted. 1.200 houses are now deemed illegal. It turns out many of those dwellings were built within the perimeter of a National Park zoned as Green Belt land. The Government has announced that it will pull them down.

I have read that completion without a LFO is illegal.

This is a common misconception. Completion on a property, before a Spanish Notary Public without a LFO is legal in Spain and the property will be lodged under your name at the land registry. However, it is not legal to occupy/live in a property without the mandatory Administrative LFO. So basically you legally own a dwelling which is uninhabitable legally until the LFO is granted by the Town Hall. Many off-plan purchasers on having waited for years on end until the granting of their LFO or with no prospects of it ever being granted due to Planning illegalities have decided to litigate and obtain a full refund of their stage payments in fear of the developers going into receivership.


What are the associated problems of completing on a property without a LFO?

Although it is legal to complete in such a case, it has numerous legal and practical drawbacks which ought to be highlighted by your lawyer to aid you in making an informed decision. To name a few:

• Primarily, you will not be able to take out a mortgage on the property or remortgage it - if needed be- by any bank other than the developers.

• You will not be able to benefit from the official utility supplies; only from the developers supplies (water and electricity) with all the associated problems this has, namely that you may be cut off at any time as it’s the developer who is paying for it and if they go into receivership you will be cut off. Besides this, the site supply electricity doesn’t have the same strength and power surges are fairly common if simultaneously turning on various electrical appliances such as a/c.

• Any future prospective purchaser, or their lawyer, will haggle with you and only pay a lower purchase price if you lack a LFO. In a resale, the purchasers in turn will undergo the same problems to secure finance by means of a mortgage loan. A lack of a LFO implies that you are actually reducing the base of potential purchasers for your resale.

• If there are planning issues, the town hall can set a charge against the property and you as the new owner of an off-plan –and not the developer- may be held liable to pay the fine for the planning illegality.

• Needless to say, you cannot let a property without a LFO.

CONCLUSION

It is generally recommendable to complete in off-plans only if a LFO is in place having being granted by the town hall. However there are exceptions to this general rule.

If the development complies fully with all the required planning permissions, you lack a Bank Guarantee, there’s no ruling affecting the BL due to planning issues and there is a high risk of the developer filing for bankruptcy in the near future, it would be advisable to complete. You would still have to wait until the LFO is granted to live in it but at least now there is no risk of you losing your funds if the developer becomes bankrupt.

Until completion the property belongs to the developer.
So if you still have not completed and the developer becomes insolvent the property lodged under his name may be seized by the developers’ bank or any other creditor that places a charge on it at the land registry. If you have no Bank Guarantee and afore happens it is then very likely you will forfeit your down payments. However, cases differ and require a case-by-case study by your appointed lawyer.



This message was last edited by Lawbird on 9/3/2008.

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03 Sep 2008 7:22 PM by Poppyseed Star rating. 897 posts Send private message

Does such a thing as a "provisional" FOL exist? Some people on our development seem to think this is what we have, until the  original planning consent is 10 years old, and new plans for the land phase 3 was due to be built on are submitted (submitted by whom we don't know!) All sounds a bit dodgy to me.
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03 Sep 2008 7:50 PM by spanishsolicitor Star rating in Murcia. 140 posts Send private message

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I've never heard such 'provisional' FOL. Many Town Halls have their own ordinances regulating FOL. Have you seen any document regarding that type of FOL ?

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03 Sep 2008 10:32 PM by Poppyseed Star rating. 897 posts Send private message

We have never seen any documents relating to this, I don't think anyone else has either, I think it's something they have just made up! Can we check at the Town Hall if our property has a FOL? Can they be issued to individual properties or are they issued to the development as a whole?
Many thanks.

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03 Sep 2008 10:39 PM by Smiley Star rating in San Pedro de Alcanta.... 2502 posts Send private message

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If its an independent dwelling whether on a gated urbanisation or stand alone then it will have its own LFO. If it is an urbanisation (apartments/townhouses) where there have been a number of phases each phase should have its own LFO when it is deemed to have been approved by the authorities to be lived in. Your lawyer should be able to confirm with the Land Registry if the LFO has been issued and generally if there is no LFO there SHOULD be a warning (advertencia) on the Nota Simple

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03 Sep 2008 10:41 PM by Poppyseed Star rating. 897 posts Send private message

Thank you Smiley

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04 Sep 2008 8:04 AM by spanishsolicitor Star rating in Murcia. 140 posts Send private message

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Sorry Smiley but you are totally wrong You can't find any information at Land Registry about whether a house has LFO granted or not. Also a 'nota simple' won't give any information about that either. As Popyseed said you can find out whether or not your house has LFO only at the Town Hall
Smiley you also said 'each phase should have its own LFO' but in order to clarify the matter I must say that FLO is granted individually, each house has a FLO

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04 Sep 2008 9:26 AM by Lawbird Star rating. 59 posts Send private message

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Hi Poppyseed. We agree with Spanishsolicitor. We've never heard of a provisional LFO. We had someone else asking this same question in our forum.

Notwithstanding to add to the confusion there can be Conditioned LFO's and LFO dubbed as "parcial". 

The Conditioned LFO, which we've seen only twice, is granted when a Town Hall grants a LFO which is subject to  the developer committing himself to finishing some communal works (i.e. sports facilities, roadworks and the likes) and is actually guaranteed with a Bank Guarantee. If the developer fails to comply the Town Hall will execute said BG to ensure the pending works are finished as agreed. Normally Town Halls only grant LFO when everything is finished and fully complies with teh granted Building Licence (BL). An example of this would be the developement known as "Hacienda Casares", in Benahavis, Málaga.

The second LFO, dubbed parcial, doesn't mean it's provisional. It only means it corresponds to one of the phases of a development or group of units within. i.e. say you have a large development  of hundreds of units, the parcial LFO only means that it is granted for a group of them not for the whole of them. It's just a tag really of no practical relevance. Ignore it.
 
So bottom line is that, as our colleague rightly points out, to the best of our knowledge a LFO is either granted or not, there are no in-between provisional LFO. Both of the LFO mentioned above are definitive.



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04 Sep 2008 10:21 AM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9419 posts Send private message

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Provisional LFO,s are LFO which do not allow their holders  to connect utilities till the building is registered in the " Catastro" .  By the accreditation of that registration, the Local Council will turn the provisional license into definitive and will allow builders to get the Guarantee back. Of course ultilities will be connectable then.

You might like to revise this  article on FOL and completion posted in EOS.

Have a good September morning. We had a fire in Algeciras yesterday and today it has rained.... good! 




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04 Sep 2008 4:11 PM by Poppyseed Star rating. 897 posts Send private message

I am getting a bit confused now.....!  We pay council tax to the local council so assume we are registered, and are connected to all mains utilities, water, electricity and gas  in our own names  Does this imply we have a full FLO?

Thanks everyone.

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04 Sep 2008 4:36 PM by Max Kite Star rating in Castilléjar, Granada. 308 posts Send private message

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Hi all,

Just want to add confusion to the debate, if possible!

As I understand it, you cannot get electricity or water connected legally if your property doesn't have a licencia de primer ocupación (LFO?) or a certificacion de inesesariedad or a cert of no objection (can't remember the Spanish) from the town hall.

If you were to wait for registration in the Catastro you would be sitting in the dark for a very long time.  If you doubt me, see if you can find any property on the Polaris La Torre site on the Catastro plan:
 (https://ovc.catastro.meh.es/CYCBienInmueble/OVCConsultaBI.htm)

It could be that you are on "builder's supply" - i.e. sub-contracting via a builder for your electricity and water.  Whose names are on your invoices? (facturas)

Why not scan the documents and ask Mariadelcastro, spanishsolicitor or lawbird to have a look - I'm sure their fees are reasonable, and you will get to the bottom of it all.
 



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04 Sep 2008 5:55 PM by Lawbird Star rating. 59 posts Send private message

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Not necessarily Poppyseed.

As Mr Kite rightly points out the utility companies should not provide you with connections -under your own name- unless the Town Hall has previously granted a LFO. But, we all know of cases, i.e. in Marbella, in which it is reknown that some developers have managed to negotiate supplies under the purchaser's name without a LFO granted for their property. 

You can of course -as pointed out in our article and by Mr Kite himself- be on a developer's supply in which case you will have water & electricity. However,utilities will not be under your name, they will still be under the developer's name.The drawbacks of this are highlighted already in our LFO article.

Confused enough ?  So basically only because you have regular supplies to all utilities you mention -even in your own name as you write- doesn't imply necessarily that there is a LFO granted. By Law that's how it should be and it makes perfect sense but we all know exceptions to this.

Besides the above, the fact that you are paying IBI tax (akin to UK Council tax) or Garbage Collection too has nothing to do either with having a LFO granted or not. There are many cases in which purchasers are being charged both these local taxes and still have no LFO granted by their Town Halls.

Why don't you get in touch with us, as Max suggests, and we'll confirm if you do have a LFO free of compromise. Ok Poppyseed ?



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05 Sep 2008 12:12 PM by Lawbird Star rating. 59 posts Send private message

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Just to clarify, an example of a Conditioned BG is development Hacienda Casares, in Casares of course, not in Benahavis as we wrote by mistake yesterday.



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