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.......and some said it would never happen in Spain?. Should save much suffering which is the main thing, but no doubt will upset many bar owners etc. Probably just be ignored by many?
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Being a smoker myself I could go on forever talking about this matter.
I find it ridiculous, people dont want to be surrounded by smokers so they ban smoking!
I dont want to be surrounded by drunks but they do not ban alcohol!
If they really want to do something about it than stop making cigarettes all together, oh wait! Thats no good as they would loose all that huge amount of tax money that they we smokers bring in!
Oh! and lets not forget that some of us may not be treated medically if we have a smoke related disease even though we pay 10 times for taxes than the non smokers!
Yipeeeeeeee! Another topic that causes loads of arguments and makes no sense!
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Nor mine.....not a chance..........!
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Goodstich
Am I missing something?, where did this info come from?
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quite agree. It's a pleasure to go in a UK pub knowing you wont come home smelling foul and haven't increased your chances of suffering some disgusting smoking related disease from somebody elses foul addiction. On the other hand, a couple of pints of real ale or lager , and nobody is hurt in any way as long as you don't drive! Alchohol in moderation is harmless and can even be beneficial, smoking is bad for you in any quantity.
If smokers want to destroy their health in their own home or car then that's up to them. I don't think that anyone has the right to try and stop that.
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I have no problem at all if some people want to enjoy smoking, every one should be able to choose for themselves and if you want to pay huge amounts in tax while enjoying your self, so be it.
I tried smoking like lots of other kids, years ago, all it did for me was to make me cough and choke. It all also used up all my pocket money so I decided to stop and give it up as a bad joke.
What I do have a problem with is, is having to share the smoke that is produced and my health threatened as well as the smokers.
We have a thoughtfull friend who smokes, she goes out side when she fancies a puff or two, but when she comes back, she trails the smoke and smell produced with her back into the room.
In my opinion, smoking should be allowed, but only in the middle of a cordened off area the size of a football pitch or in one of those air tight boxes like the ones used in some airports in Asia.
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There really is no need for smoking inside of bars and restaurants in Spain. The weather (down South particularly) is normally ok for people to sit outside and smoke.
We went to a coffee shop the other morning with some friends and all our young kids and the men right beside us were smoking practically into our kids faces. Considering we were there first I was a bit miffed. Susan did one of "her faces" and they pretty quicly realised we didn't appreciate our kids passively inhaling their smoke. They stubbed them out pretty quickly.
I am known to have a smoke myself now and then but I will always make sure I don't bother anyone else with it and never smoke inside anywhere.
The whole "smoking ban" was very badly introduced in Spain and I for one do welcome this new legislation. I just hope that people do respect it.
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spain is in deep popo so now they are going to push more people into not bothering to go out,......personaly i think smoking is ok,it reduces stress,and somethink these governments and dogooders dont like to advertise is more people die from stress related problems than people that actually die of cancer and proven that the smoking caused their cancer....so put that in your pipe and smoke it
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coolrunner?......I don't think so if you're a smoker!
you are right about Spain being in deep poopoo though, and much of that is through being in denial of ugly truths until it's all to late........ring any bells?
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I don't know why people post these things as smoking arguments are about as inflammatory as Religion and Politics.
It is very simple in Algorfa.......
There are four bars within 2 mins walk...........
2 smoking and 2 non smoking............
If you smoke you have a choice of 2.....
If you don't smoke you have a choice of 2..........
It's called freedom of choice
simple........
No problems,no arguments.................no point.
And please bare in mind,these have been the laws in Spain for years,if you are dead set against the ways here you know the answer.........
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I think that Georgia is absolutely spot-on! Freedom of choice - not the draconian 'Thou shalt not smoke' measures we have in the UK. I always thought Spain's smoking laws were really sensible - the only problem is - where to buy fags if the Estanco's shut!
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Didn't they try this a couple of years ago? If I recall worked for a couple of weeks before the small (Spanish) bar owners realised that none of their (mainly workmen) customers came in. I saw signs torn down in most of the little bars.
Spain - great at making laws, just who enforces them?
Maybe this time around they'll take it seriously ? Fortunately I stopped Smoking using a local company doing Bioresonance therapy in Costa Blanca. Plugged me into a weird machine and after they had finished with me an hour later I didn't desire a cigarette any more (cravings disappeared?) - not quite sure how it worked - but it did!
I'd also tried a couple of the local hynotherapy companies, but did not find them to work - €140 for half an hour and they wouldn't pick up the phone for their 'supposed' guarantee??
Eitherway if the ban helps people stop, its a good thing - I certainly feel much better for it.
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Paul
good for you, whatever works eh!.
Sadly I have made many trips to a cancer ward and a heart surgery ward recently, which is why I was pleased to read of the ban in Spain. If I was a smoker before, I'd like to think those visits would have bought me to my senses pretty quickly!! I realise though that it takes a strong person to admit that their smoking addiction is really bad, that alone do something about it, and many smokers don't have that strength of character sadly, preffering to use the tired old excuse of 'freedom of choice' . In reality, that freedom to regognise right and wrong is lost as soon as they become addicted........but of course they don't see it that way. As long as they have 'their' choice then that's ok.
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Blimey goodstich!! and i thought my explanation was quite easy to get......?
You really are too used to the nanny state.
You see if you don't want to smell smoke here you go in a non smoking bar...if you do want to smoke then you go in a smoking bar,if i simplify it anymore we will breaking out the crayola!!!!!!
I have heard there are gay bars in England and also straight bars, are you saying that we should ban one or the other as it will turn straight people gay and vica versa.
Anyone would think you just like a good moan?!
I have the perfect solution for you if you do not like the Spanish laws and ways of thinking.........
Stay in England and then it won't concern you!
there.....simple.
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A long time ago I was a forty a day addict. I gave up - successfully after the umpteenth attempt. I tried a new trick; it worked. That is beside the point. The irony is that having friends who smoke I end up inhaling more of their cigarettes than they do. They take the occasional drag. I always seem to be downwind so the fumes from their coffin nails drift constantly into my face and become part of the air I choke on.
When I was in a relationship my other half, who couldn't stand the habit, loved bingo (yes, it has its fanatics). Oh dear! When she returned from a bingo session she; her clothes, her hair, was rancid with the stuff.
I am sorry but I have to agree that it is nigh on impossible to put forward a valid argument in defence of smoking. I wish I had never started but thankfully doctors tell me that so long has passed since I did so my air passages, lungs are those of a non-smoker. If I (and others) can do it so can you. Sorry to preach.
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georgia
so you say I don't get your explanation?, yet there's no sign of you getting the message about cancer and heart problems.. Do I have to get out the crayola to spell that out for you???. If you want to stay in denial of facts that is indeed your choice. As for a nanny state?, well yes in some ways, but on this issue it's called consideration for your own health and others, but I doubt that really matters to you as long as you have your choice? I do pretty much as I like in the UK, where are the restrictions??. Laws and ways in Spain are changing, you may have to move to a country more backward soon if you want somewhere that ignores the smoking issue and the other common sense issues in Spain that we all know about that are long overdue for change.
Mike
once again 'well done'. To go from 40 a day to giving up shows real strength and resolve. Don't worry about preaching, if your story saves one person from ending up in a dreadful cancer ward then it will have been well worth it. As you say there is no real defence for smoking now we know the hideous health risks. Just denial through addiction or ignorance. Great to hear your lungs are now clear and cancer or some other horrible smoking related disease didn't get you! Sadly many kids still smoke as they think it's ''cool''?. When I think of how many of them will suffer, it really seems crazy that we can't prevent it somehow?
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