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The Bargain Spanish Property Myth
Friday, March 23, 2012

Over recent months we keep hearing more and more about how cheap property in Spain is becoming.  A real case of supply outstripping demand.
 
Has there ever been such a great time to buy?  If you believe everything in the press then this has to be a great time to jump in.  Low prices, 100% mortgages, 50% IVA discount on new properties, etc.
 
Most of us who bought in the “glory days” are feeling a little nauseous at the moment as prices continue to tumble, but for those looking to buy today, surely the press must be right and now is the time to benefit from such a depressed market…not to mention depressed property sellers!

But are there real bargains to be had?

There’s only one way to answer that question and that’s by getting out there and checking it out first hand.
 
What better way to waste an estate agent’s time than to make him show you loads of properties  when in actual fact you have no intention of buying anything (this is a typical client these days…I’m told!).
 
But luckily the agent in question is a good friend; Andrew Hamilton from Hamilton Homes so he wasn’t too upset that I wasted his day, I think.

The brand new apartments

As I suspected, if you want to buy a brand new two bedroom apartment then you are spoiled for choice.  110,000 Euros gets you a good quality apartment on a nice complex and the bank will happily give you 100% finance, possibly a little more too if you ask nicely.
 
They may not be in the best locations but they are more than 50% less than they were when initially marketed during those glory days.  I feel for the other owners there who paid the higher prices and now see these properties advertised for so much less.   But hey, most of us are in the same boat.
 
Then there are other properties in much better locations, such as on the seafront of which some have been reduced by an astonishing 75%.  But to me these were severely overpriced to begin with, so I don’t think that drop in value is quite what it seems.  Still, some people there will have paid those outrageous initial prices.
 
So where new apartments are concerned, yes, they have come down a lot and they are available much of the time fully financed.
 
Will they continue to come down in price?  No one can say for certain but they are definitely selling going by Andrew’s excel spreadsheet.  So it’s only a matter of time before the remaining ones are sold.
 
But once these quality properties are sold, that’s going to leave the, let’s call them “less desirable properties” available on the market and these will be the last to go over the next few years.  These will get progressively cheaper as the banks that own them come under increasing pressure to get them sold.  This is just my guess but by going off the current reduced prices for quality apartments, I wouldn’t be surprised if in two or three years we’ll be seeing the “less desirable properties” coming onto the market at around the 40 - 50,000 Euro mark.  I can’t see any other way other than those low price levels to get them shifted.

The brand new townhouses

It’s a fact that developers built many more apartments than townhouses during the glory days.  Searching for a decent new townhouse to buy I assumed that they should in theory be more difficult and probably not with the level of discounting I saw with the apartments.
 
But I was wrong.
 
I looked at some beautiful, great quality, large townhouses which had been reduced from 495,000 Euros to….wait for it…209,000 Euros.  These are large good quality properties but the location isn’t great, which probably explains the price drop.  Finance on these was at 80% and they were selling.  There were other people looking at them, one had just been removed from the list of available properties and there were only a few left.
 
Great townhouses at the right price seem to sell.
 
I was then taken to see some other brand new townhouses which again, weren’t in the best of locations but they too had been reduced by some silly figure and they were now on the market at 199,000 Euros with 100% finance.
 
And what a difference.  These were truly awful.  The poor build quality, low quality fittings, tiny rooms, low ceilings, etc.  You name it these townhouses had everything you wouldn’t want in a property.  The bank literally can’t give these away and I suspect prices of these types of properties will have to fall and the banks may have to finance over 100% to get them sold.  Who would want them?
 
These reminded me of the fact that many developers assumed that if they built them people would buy them.  These properties belong to a different era.  Yes they have come down in price, they are fully financed but they are also crap.  That’s why I was the only muppet checking them out!

Is the bargain property myth busted?

Well yes and no.  There are bargains to be had but there are good and bad bargains.  The last thing you would want to do today is buy a lemon of a property.  That would be inexcusable.
 
From what I saw on my day out with Andrew, the great properties are selling (slowly), even if they aren’t in the absolute best locations, whilst the inferior properties still have some way to go and they will get cheaper; they have to.
 
So at the end of the day it depends on what you want.  It seems that the properties being sold at the moment for low prices are the better properties, and then in two or three years time it’s those less desirable ones that are going to be left.  Most agents are now only pushing those new properties which they know are good and will probably sell at the current price levels.
 
What is particularly worrying is that the level of not-so-good properties is much higher than the good ones, so I still think it’s going to take many years to shift all of these.  Like I said before, many belong to a different era where anything sold but that’s not today’s or tomorrow’s market.
 
So that’s my roundup of one day looking at new properties for sale.  Every area will be different but that’s what I saw and found out for myself.  If I had some cash to spare I would be seriously tempted to snap up one of those 100% mortgage quality apartments, they were that good.
 
How very tempting.
 
Anyway, this is what I found in the area of Manilva/Duquesa, how are things looking in your area?  Leave a comment below and let me know.
 
P.S.  Thanks to Andrew Hamilton for his time showing me round.


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Curso dandalú
Friday, March 9, 2012

I just came across this video today and it's a great example of why learning Spanish in Andalucia can be so very tricky.

You have to know Spanish to understand it but it's very funny. 



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Inspirational business accelerator WAYRA in Madrid
Wednesday, March 7, 2012

I was just watching this great video produced by our friends over a GoSpain TV and was hugely impressed to see new online businesses taking shape at WAYRA in Madrid, a project funded by Telefonica.

Unlike business incubators these are business accelerators instead, meaning they are fast tracking these businesses into the limelight.  In these tough times in Spain and after my missed opportunities blog post yesterday, it's pleasingly refreshing to see.

Good luck to all those new entrepeneurs.

Watch the video at GoSpain TV



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Juzcar - The Smurf village in Spain; a missed business opportunity?
Tuesday, March 6, 2012

I know, everyone's probably been to see this by now but we only got round to seeing it last weekend.  If you don't know about this it's the small village near Ronda that was painted blue as part of the promotion for the new Smurfs movie last year.

Most people had never heard of Juzcar (I for one) and so this publicity stunt really put this little village on the map.  People started flocking to see the typical Andalucian village painted Smurf blue instead of the normal white.

And when you drive down the narrow road to get the village, when you see the first few houses it is quite funny and odd to see them painted blue.  Sadly, the novelty factor pretty much begins and ends there.

Juzgar smurf village in Spain

You pull up to the entrance to the village, expecting to find someone dressed as a Smurf telling you where to park, but no.  Just a guy in a reflective jacket who doesn't direct any cars anywhere.  Maybe it was a Smurf holiday?

So you park up and start walking into the village.  There are a few Smurf paintings on some walls and you do eventually come across a shop selling smurfy stuff (pitufo is Spanish for smurf by the way).

Juzgar smurf village in Spain

You also come across a bit of cardboard stuck to a lampost pointing you to "El bar de Gargamel" where you'll find the owner of the bar dressed as the evil one from the film.  He actually does look like Gargamel too!

But apart from the shop and the bar, after walking around the village for half an hour that's about it.  There's really nothing else to see or do.  It's just a normal sleepy village but blue instead of white.

Have they missed an opportunity?

Spain is in a terrible state at the moment with massive unemployment.  I can't be the only one who thinks that there is money to be made in the little village.  I spoke to the owner of the B&B there and he said that he's fully booked every weekend., so obviously people have been and are still going to see the village.

Why were there no Smurfs walking around that you could have your picture taken with for a small fee?  My kids would have loved that and I would therefore have willingly coughed up the readies.

Imagine a photo with Smurfette?  Even the men would have gone for that 

What about some Smurf rides for kids?  Or a Smurf train to take people around the village?

Or a Smurf cake stall?  Or Smurf blue slush puppies (the Spanish love their "granizadas")?  Smurf face painting?

Surely there must be a hundred ways that people could get creative and get money out of the thousands of people visiting the village every week.

We left the village on Saturday after 30 minutes and we hadn't spent a single cent.  And that, believe it or not, makes me a bit sad.  I was more than happy to pay a few Euros for the kids to be entertained yet the opportunity just wasn't there.

Come on, in such tough times people need to grasp opportunities whilst they are there.  The Smurf village novelty will eventually wear off and probably never return but some people could have made a mint if they'd been a bit creative and got themselves down to the village in their homemade Smurf outfits.

If I'd been unemployed or desperate for money, you know where you would have been able to find me 



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The first crazy Mascletá of 2012 in Valencia
Friday, March 2, 2012

 I was in Valencia for the past couple of days this week and I was lucky enough to witness the first "Mascletá" of 2012.  I met up with Graham Hunt and went along to see it with him.

If you're not familiar with the Mascletá in Valencia, then, like me, you'll probably think this is a bit mad.  In the city centre, opposite the town hall, at 2pm they let off a barrage of bangers and fireworks for about 10 minutes.  But this isn't some little boring firework display, it's huge and they must use hundreds and hundreds of fireworks.  

It's gets progressively faster, noisier and smokier and then ends with a huge number of bangers all going off at once and by this point you can't see anything and the noise is crazy.

The proximity to all of the surrounding buildings and the fact that it's in broad daylight, making it difficult to really appreciate the fireworks, it what, at least to me, makes it seem like one of those "it could only happen in Spain" moments.

And they do this every day for 19 days, leading up to the end of Fallas itself.  I recorded this short video from yesterday's show and it not so much the visual aspect of it that's of interest, it's definitely more the audio.

If you've in Valencia this month it's definitely worth seeing, or should I say hearing!



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