Without prejudice:
Hello everyone, Thanks for your acknowledgement Kev and to all others who have shared their viewpoints based upon their own perspectives and in many cases, their observations made during their recent visits to Corvera and other local resorts.
Lisa, I am not sure whether or not my own observations of late, make me the target of your, shall we say assumptions of "panic" on my part and more dangerously, the totally incorrect insinuations that anyone in particular, appears to be making "Legal Threats"? It does not matter, please do not bother to respond to this but read on:
I sincerely hope that this is not the case because that was not the intent. All I have done, apart from voicing my own opinions, just as we all have every right to do, is to try to STOP or slow any potential panic but at the same time, encourage open debate about issues, which, as another of our group has observed, MUST be addressed and not swept under the carpet.
As one who has spent the best part of his working life traversing the globe at 600 MPH and 40,000 feet as a Pilot and Flight Engineer flying large intercontinental airliners..... maybe even with YOU down the back somewhere at some time, you'll be pleased to know, I'm sure, that PANIC does not even appear in my dictionary!
However, I am pleased to read that you Lisa,
personally, intended to speak to Esther and to draw her attention to the content of the forum and to then attempt to pin down the upper echelons of the Corvera/Calidona management.
I hope that you had more success than I did because, as I have earlier reported on this forum, I have also already
personally contacted Esther on several occasions, and, as reported back to you all, she assured me that everything at Corvera was on schedule, on time, no monies had been returned to anyone who has signed up a purchase agreement and that all of the rumours on the forum, which she'd been reading anyway, are just that, rumours.....................and yet?
What about the evidence as gained by recent visitors and the almost complete lack of feedback from the Corvera staff?
If what is said about the situation prevailing at El Valle, Roda, Polaris and so on and the confirmed lack of completion of facilities is true, why are SOME of us in denial and why do we just go round and round and round?
Asking Esther, although she is very helpful, is not going to put our minds at rest. The only thing that will, I suggest, and this is not sabre ratlling nor a legal threat (!) nor incitement to civil unrest, is a formal (legal) approach on our behalf, quite legitimately being made, as has been suggested before.
There can be nothing sinister about that, so why do we not act cohesively and find an acceptable way in which we can move on and break this cycle? The only sinister thing about it, so far as I can see, is the reason WHY we are being drawn to consider such action in the first place, when a completely open and constructive, transparent statement of FACT from the developers, would obviate the need for such a course of action. Perhaps then Lisa, you are the person to tackle this for us head-on? I'm sure that we would all very much appreciate it, I know that I would.
In closing, I simply want to reassure some of you that many if not most of us, are intelligent people, some looking for a lifestyle and some looking at investment and some like us in an earlier life, a combination of both.
We are not greedy opportunists but when we lost over 200,000 Pounds with our favourite UK insurance company a while back, we naturally cast around for alternatives to Stock Market related concepts..... and this was about four or five years ago and so well before any of the present chaos began, or at least came to a head.
Right at the time, Spain was on the crest of the wave and there was no hint on the far horizon of what was to come. We'd already invested in a penthouse apartment near the Mar Menor with "guaranteed" resale potential and profit in a couple of years time and that's just what was actually happening, all around us. Folks were selling at two and sometimes three times what they'd paid a few short years before.
We were very enthusiastically introduced to Corvera by our agent, just as all of you must have been, so I am no more daft than any of you were at that time, when we decided to purchase one apartment in which to enjoy our retirement years and the other to let or sell just prior to completion.... and at a profit, which is what we all envisaged.
Then the slow down began and all the related nausea and so it goes on, compounded now by the world markets crashing in flames with bits flying off on the way down.
We have only just been able to sell our Mar Menor apartment after four years of having it sitting empty. We lost 35,000 Euros on what we paid and obviously therefore, made none of the anticipated profit nor were we able to let it.
As Lisa points out, and I agree and have been saying for many years now, many people have been living above their stations, thanks to almost enforced credit advances and loans, all of which have conspired to remove all sense of reality and common sense from their minds and turning them into opportunist "investors" driven purely by greed.
However, my wife and I do
NOT fall into that category, just as I am sure that just about all of us on this forum do not.
We have worked very, very hard throughout our married lives, gained many profesional qualifications and much valuable experience, we have inherited nothing from friends or family but we HAVE suffered great bad luck over the years through no fault of our own and because of this and believe me there IS such a thing as luck, or the lack of it!,
we are now almost broke and we do not know what to do.
Unlike some of you who are much better placed and much younger, we have now almost run out of options. Our house is now on the market so that we can pay for Corvera (IF we can sell it) but what we are to live on, goodness knows..... just a basic UK pension, less eight years of credits.
Today is our 41st. wedding anniversary and we cannot even go out for a coffee and a sticky bun and I am working a double early/late shift at age 65 in my retirement job in an effort to keep up. So please, do not include me in that group of mindless and greedy individuals and do not tar us all with the same brush. Thank you.
I know that our forum is not the place for acrimonious debate but under the circumstances, I felt the need to set the record straight.
From now on, I will now become a passive observer on the forum but please add me to the list Andy and I will gladly contribute in any way, if invited.
Thank you all. My best regards, John/Fizzler.