Do SARC have any regrets ?

Now that those who had  the good sense to engage a  decent ,pro-active ,forceful , (if a little expensive) legal eagle ,are getting closer to  the end game and a good outcome , BGs or not . Are SARC leaders and members regretting their  fool hardy decision to  back SJ/HdT in the hope that they would come good ?  What was the ultimate price of the free lunch ? 

How much would it cost to buy every SARC member a  lunch  including vino de la casa  ?

Answers in Euros on a post card please . MM

Hi Ja aka Magicmeg,

I see that you are still up to your naughty mischief, you cheeky monkey you.   What is there to regret? Nada!

SARC is working for purchasers, not against them  as a few with BS's have been doing. As for the silly remarks, well it is such a shame that you continually make them. 

SARC has not backed HdT but put forward purchasers view points and how many times do you need to be told that? I sometimes wonder about your selective memory and find it very worrying.

All the best to you & just incase you did not know....

 I WANT MY HOUSE & A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR ALL.

Tony  R17 18

Poor Tony,

You do take a bashing. I don't know how you can carry on posting on this site. It must be like banging your head against the wall.

Why are people so negative? If they are not interested in anything you have to say or do for SARC then why get involved. Dont read the posts!! simple, that way they can keep their negative attitude to themselves.

Thanks Tony for all your trying to do It is appreciated by some

IWMH 2

 not by many though. you should be ashamed

Just by those who know no better and do not have access, for whatever the reason, to professional advice.

Hi All,

I think it is those who make insulting remarks and only provide us with negative remarks with no substance that should have regrets. Do they not regret trying to get SADM to fold? Insulting purchasers? Making false accusations? Cyber bullying?

SARC is a purchasers co operative, a recognised organisation doing all it can to ensure that purchasers are heard and that their position is put forward , plus providing any information freely to all.

 I WANT MY HOUSE & A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR ALL

TONY R 17 18

"Do they not regret trying to get SADM to fold" No help was needed. The mis-management proved adequate. If not, where is your deposit now?

"Insulting purchasers" Yes, you do and should stop. You continually insult the intelligence of the sensible.

"Making false accusations" It is possibly out of ignorance and listening to SPIN that you do it, but still, that can't be an acceptable excuse.

"Cyber bullying" Again, something you may be familiar with. I may be wrong, but was it you that threatened to sue people on here and even boasted about the people/companies you have sue. If someone else, sorry in advance. (Would help if you would confirm though).

"SARC is a purchasers co operative, a recognised organisation" Are they Registered?

"plus providing any information freely to all." Be it spin or maybe a grain of fact is irrelevant?

Best Regards

FIN,

Many thanks for your copying & pasting exercise. For once what is your point?  You do not add orignal thought but feed of others comments, twisting them to try to create a derogatory remark. It is a shame that for some one who probably has a good interlect that you can not do anything other than behave in a crass and banal manner, similar to a young pubescent.

Only time will tell what will happen but what ever it may be, their are those of us who can say with honour that we did all we could to help one and other, On the other hand what can you say? That you derided and rediculled purchasers, that you intimidated purchasers not to post, that you pushed down any news of use to purchasers and that you have not tried to help any one but yourself?

I am truly sorry for you

 I WANT MY HOUSE & A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR ALL

Tony R17 18

"For once what is your point?" Thought that was simple enough for even you to understand.
Just showing what garbage you state.

" young pubescent." Sorry, wouldn't know. Please explain and clarify?

"Only time will tell what will happen" Time will prove.

"pushed down any news of use to purchasers" News and fact may be of use. Spin is not.

"and that you have not tried to help any one but yourself?" OK, try talking to the people who have had their cash back. You of course are not one of the lucky ones.

"I am truly sorry for you" Don't be. No need. I have no complaints.

GET A LIFE  

Tony.

I am not working against purchasers! I am not working against SARC! I am not working against anyone!

I am just sick to death of the whole saga and quite honestly, i could not give a monkeys uncle whether or not SADM goes ahead or not. I am just waiting patiently for the court to deal with my case so that i can get my money back on my legal bank guarantee. I dont think that is being selfish Tony, i am just looking after number one and i think that is all one can do when the ship is sinking, as much as i would like to help others.

Please dont insult my intelligence or my motives just because i happen to have a bank guarantee and some  other people dont. That is not my fault.

If SADM were to go ahead, why would anyone want to buy a property and pay €1000s more, when they could buy a resale complete and fully furnished with lots of extras and on the coast if they wanted, for more or less the price the average purchaser has paid as a deposit. That is why most people want their money back, so that they can purchase a much cheaper place in this still very depressed market, with prices still falling. I am amazed that the market has not levelled out yet but it has not.

All you can buy from s/j now is a pig in a poke. Even their key ready properties at Playa Golf have massive mortgages on them that s/j took out, and you can buy a similar house elsewhere probably at the same price as some of their mortgages.

Probably by now most of SARCs members know the score which is sad and unfortunate, but thats life sometimes.

I do truely wish the best to everyone but i am still going to look after number one as much as possible with my bank guarantee and i would venture to say Tony that you may be the only one, or one of a few that would think, that was actually being selfish.

                 Regards  Bob.

Totally agree Bob  Do you think for one minute if Tonymal or Brianmags or Sterling for that matter had a BG that they would not use it    Dream on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with Hawkins111 totally.

I am not concerened about BG's or no BG's magicmeg, all I want is everyone to get their desired outcome and be able to discuss on the forum details if they so wish. And information,updates  etc, or not, whatever the case maybe, without having to put up with abuse from people who may not share your point of view. Some want their money back others still want their houses. whatever position you are in it does not give anyone the right to be rude and post malicous comments about another person.

As I've said before, we all feel cheated by HdT & SJ so where is the soidarity?

Sterling ,the solidarity will come when people realise who the wrong doers are and stop spreading the spin .

Tonymal /Brianmags /SARC are so misguided by this illegal outfit that it beggars belief .This company are a bunch of crooks ,make no mistake and protect yourself . SJ have and will continue to treat us all disgracefully if we allow them to .

My problem with Tonymal/Brianmags and SARC is that they advocate that we should listen to and take more of this companies total disregard of our rights and legal position .We are protected under Spanish consumer law we are not commercial creditors .They do not want us to litigate and SARC have played right into their hands in making the judge believe that most purchasers wish to continue with their purchase at any cost. SARC have misrepresented the views of purchasers and are solely responsible for SJ/HdT refusing to resolve the contracts . SARC should not have helped SJ by passing information regarding the intentions of those with BGs  to resolve the contracts,SARC pre empted this and made it impossible for those with BGsto do this with no benefit to anyone except SJ .Be ashamed SARC be very ashamed

No one is demanding that anyone listen or act upon what SARC advocate. As Hawkins111 pointed out 'look after number 1'

However, for those who want to, that's fine,surely that's up to the individual. I don't believe that SARC have the influence you seem to imagine they have. It seems to me that some people who post on this site are possibly slighty worried by the SARC campaign. I personally think that it provides information for those 'purchasers' who DO want their house's to be build, now whether or not that will happen remains to be seen and whether or not that view is misguided time will tell.But If that's the outcome of the majority or minority wants then so be it. They are intitled to ther view without being attacked for their opinion.

MM In this statement your are misguided.

"SARC have played right into their hands in making the judge believe that most purchasers wish to continue with their purchase at any cost. SARC have misrepresented the views of purchasers and are solely responsible for SJ/HdT refusing to resolve the contracts . SARC should not have helped SJ by passing information regarding the intentions of those with BGs  to resolve the contracts,SARC pre empted this and made it impossible for those with BGsto do this with no benefit to anyone except SJ".

It was Almudena who told me of the intentions of those with bg's, not the other way around.  In fact she had met with administrators and lawyers prior to our meeting and it was they not SARC who had informed her of the pending litigations. At that time she also stated that they would consider resolving contracts if interest and costs were waived. 

Hi Linda

There was lots of telephone conversations between Almu and SARC that we were not privy to before the meeting you had  with Almu  .On the point about  Almu offering to resolve the contracts I am not sure SJ followed through with that offer . No one to my knowledge was able to do it in the end . It was not the giving up rights to legal costs and interest that was the problem but the fact that Purchasers had to sign to say they would have no future claim against  SJ in any respect. That would mean that if for some reason the banks would not pay on the BGs  people would have been legally left with out a leg to stand on ( SJ new the  banks would not  pay and  had advised them the week before not to pay ) .The legals would have been negligent to their clients best interest if they had taken this mad cap deal and had no option to advise against it .In my opinion SJ had a damn cheek to suggest  such a deal and once again were trying to get themselves off the hook and out of  the mess they have caused  . .

SARC have accused people of being greedy thinking the reason people refused to resolve was about  the interest and costs .I can only speak for myself but I would have taken the deal with out the clause about giving up all rights and to hang with the interest and costs .But it was once again a catch 24 crumbs of the plate of SJ  deal showing complete disregard for the fact that they have stolen our money .If you think I am wrong and it was a viable good gesture  offer by SJ perhaps anyone who was able to take advantage of SJs offer could come forward .To my knowledge there are none .

I stand by what I said SARC had an influence in this as they did not want people to resolve their contract before the report was complete .If you read the HdT report again you will see a section where it is reported that most purchasers have not resolved their contracts in court or otherwise and that there was a large percentages of purchasers who still wanted to purchase  . Is this misleading ,I think it is however we will never know for sure as SARC will not be honest about the true amount of members they have who really do still want their houses .Why are SARC so secretive about numbers .Names yes they have every right to with hold but numbers .When we look back at the misinterpretation and inaccuracy  of most  of the info that SARC put out can we trust them to paint an accurate picture to SJ or the administrators who were reporting back to the court. I think not.

Therefore Linda if you think I am " misguided "  fair enough your opinion and you are entitled to it . I have based  my opinion on  info from people  I know who are close to the company and I trust. SARC are being used by SJ to effect the best outcome for SJ not  for purchasers  .Time will show this eventually . Regards MM

When a developer promises to supply a development in return for your money. Takes your money, but doesn't build more than a couple of show houses. Please tell me there is nobody on this planet, who can read and write, who is brainless enough and stupid enough, to trust anything they may be told by that developer, its staff or its agents? If they do, they don't deserve to get their cash back, otherwise, they will just throw it down the drain again.
Learn by one's mistakes!!!!