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30 Mar 2011 12:00 AM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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 Many buyers from San Jose and Herrada del Tollo who got their deposits covered by a Guarantee fro SGR accepted to recover the principal and sing a relinquishment agreement for the legal interest.

The art. 7th of the 57/68 Act establishes that the rights that the law establishes for the buyers cannot be relinquished. In addition, the artícle 1st states that the developer must give to the buyer a bank guarantee which covers principal plus LEGAL INTEREST.

Therefore, the right to get the legal interest paid is ruled by the law, so it cannot be relinquished. This means that any relinquishment document is against the law and void.

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Guadalupe Sánchez.

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30 Mar 2011 3:40 PM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 forum posts Send private message

Hi all

I am trying to get my head round this new pocket of information and its relevance to purchasers without bank guarantees.

Without typing out a long boring post here, I want to stick to the points that are new, and ask you good people to contribute your knowledge and feeling about this.

First, anyone who comes along with a new way of getting the money back is going to be welcome, and looked on as a saviour.  I want to make sure before spending another penny in Spain, that I am going to get a return for it.

So.....Bank guarantees are part of Spanish Law and should be given to all purchasers..we know that

The court has failed to act on this principle and give us our money back...we know that

My lawyer has said in the past that it probably is expensive and has no definate outcome, to pursue the failing in law of failure to supply BG's.

Now here is the new part....It is said here that the builder has an obligation in law to set up a generic document which obliges the court to recognise each individual as having a bank guarantee when they have a legitimate contract, and this has been done with San Lose clients developments.  It is said that this is enforceable regardless of if a BG has been supplied, or not.  (as i understand it)

Can anyone who has an interest let me know what they feel about this development.  I am not prepared to put another penny into anyones hands who dosnt give results, so I am naturally sceptical at this time.

 



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31 Mar 2011 2:11 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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CONFIRMED: BUYERS' DEPOSITS FOR HERRADA DEL TOLLO, SAN JOSE INVERSIONES Y PROYECTOS URBANÍSTICOS AND INVERSOL GRUPO URBANÍSTICO ARE COVERED BY A GENERIC GUARANTEE POLICY

 

I am really happy today, because I can confirm to buyers of "Herrada del Tollo SL", "San Jose Inversiones y Proyectos Urbanísticos", and "Inversol Grupo Urbanistico" that their deposits are covered by generic guarantees.
Yesterday, a Eye on Spain forum member posted me some paperwork he got from his agent, because he wan't sure about how important they could be. I was really astonished when I saw them, because they were:
 - a certificate from SGR  about the existence of a generic bank guarantee for Herrada del Tollo.The certificate states that the guarantee is not made to cover just particular developments or properties, and settles a maximum amount as a limit (6,5 millions euros). 
- A copy of the first pages of three Generic Guarantees contract signed between Banco Pastor & San Jose Inversiones y Proyectos Urbanísticos (in one of them is also included Inversol Grupo Urbanístico). On the contracts there is not mention to which developments are covered by the guarantee, and settle a maximum amount as a limit (26 millions of euros!).
 
As posted previously, I had knowledge of the existence of a generic guarantee agreed between SGR and San Jose Inversiones, and I was sure that there was another for Herrada del Tollo, because I have represented clients from HDT who enforced individual bank guarantees issued by SGR, and no individual guarantee is made by a Bank if there is not a previous agreement signed with the builder (Generic Guarantee, called "Póliza de Contragarantía" or "Póliza de Contraaval" in Spanish). But now I can confirm that the generic policy for HDT exists and, in addition, I can report everybody that the generic policy issued by SGR for San Jose is not the only one which covers the buyers' deposits, because there is a "massive" policy from Banco Pastor as well.
The above means that any deposit paid to Herrada del Tollo, San Jose or Inversol is covered by a generic guarantee, because the amount limit doesn't apply to the buyer, as long as the art. 7th of the 57/68 Act states that the rights ruled by that law cannot be waived. As the generic policies don't mention which particular developments are covered, the decision about which deposits did get an individual guarantee, and which ones didn't, was taken by SGR-BANCO PASTOR and HDT, SAN JOSE OR INVERSOL arbitrarily, without buyers' knowledge, so the negative consequences of an agreement in which the buyers weren't involved must not be suffered by then.
 
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31 Mar 2011 11:00 PM by nweatherall210 Star rating in Scunthorpe, England .... 74 forum posts Send private message

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Guadalupe,

that sounds like great news. I have the exact same paperwork, but I have been previously advised by two Spanish lawyers that it goes to nothing and cant be used to force a repayment of the deposit sums paid to HDT.

As a lawyer are you now saying \ advising that this is not the case and the documentation can be used to force a repayment of the deposit sums direct from the Bank either directly or through the courts?

Please advise.



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19 Dec 2012 4:11 PM by carolinemills Star rating. 27 forum posts Send private message

Hi all,
As I see that many of you had problems with the deposits you gave to Herrada-San Jose, I must say that my lawyer in Spain won my case regarding the guarantees. As most of you, we didn't have any individual guarantees to our name, they were just general guarantees.
I know that every client has the same right as me so I asumme that you can recover this back too.
We won against the banks Banco Pastor, BBVA and SGR and they already paid our guarantees back.
I am really happy with the work done so if any of you looks for any legal assistance I can give you my lawyers email address or if you have questions you can write to me
caroline

.mills36

@yahoo.

com


I hope that everyone can be as lucky as me
Caroline
 




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