Exterior painting

I was at the resort recently and yes you can obviously tell which apartments are painted, dare i say it is these painted apartments that look out of place. they have to be done uniformly in order to have the whole resort look it's best. i do not agree with any additional charge for something that is supposed to be included in our C.C. we were told that the administrator negotiated better terms for the services provided on CDA making huge savings and yet not long afterwards our C.C. were increased.... why? i agree the non payers of the C.C. should be persued legally or otherwise...maybe a large notice board on each garden/penthouse outing all non payers. i for one will not pay to get my apartment painted while others pay nothing at all, if the administrator do not want to chase these people then maybe they should decrease the C.C. to those that are up to date why are the rest of us subsidising the non payers. if we did get a reduction (which will not happen) then maybe millenium would get the finger out and get results.

Sadly we will have no say in paying additional fees for repainting.  I like Jake1 would not pay the surcharge as a matter of principle.  Unfortunately Milleniun will just increase the amount taken under our current Direct Debit Mandates  The residents who suggest they are happy to pay the additional fees should kindly make a donation to the painting fund or just give it a rest.  You never volunteer additional money on behalf of everyone, your energies would be better placed pressurising Milleniun in to decreasing the current Community Charge.

 Well said!

As I see it we are already paying for this job to be done but because of debts there's not enough in the coffers to cover it and actually no mention of it being done so its not even on an agenda. I must say that when I last visited which was last year I didnt feel the resort looked shabby but I'm sure once an apartment or two gets painted in a Jardin the others will look rather lack lustre.

For the sake of a couple of hundred euro lots of people will get it done but others wont as 200 euro is still alot of money, or they will think 'we've already paid for this'. This will lead to a haphazard approach.

Initially I thought it was to be done every 3 years but was then advised it was every 5 years- so July 2013 is 5 years from the first completions in Jardin 13 and Jardin 1 in the Jardines I believe.

I was last over in April and went directly to Milleniun to discuss this very point.  I was advised that it was their intention to work on a Jardin by Jardin basis once inspection had been carried out to prioritise the areas of attack.  There was cash in the budget to do this but not enough to do it all at the one time.  Where is this panic coming from?

Well let's see if that happens. Don't read anyone in a panic like or am I missing something.

There is cash in the painting budget to carry out painting on apartments!

This is to be discussed at the next Level 2 meeting on 5th June, it will not (IMO) be a full garden by garden painting project but select apartments that have suffered more than others.

If you believe that your apartment is an emergency case and is in dire need of painting then I suggest you either contact ML or your Level 2 President with the details..

Hope this helps.

With all the new owners on condado , where that money gone again

I doubt it would matter if the apartments were unsold, I imagine that the Banks or Polaris World would be responsible for community fees previously on these 100 apartments so selling the apartments shouldn't bring in new money as such. Just a different owner/debtor for the community in terms of administration.

Unless I understand it incorrectly.

I like the idea of barring the non-payers from their own properties.  Don't let them or their guests into the resort.  Some of them probably don't use the apartments anyway but, as someone has pointed out, some are going around shouting their mouths off about non-payment.  Unbelievable. More front that Selfridges!!!

Re Community Debtors from Northern European countries.....

5 years ago the EU introduced a European wide law called the European Order of Payment law, there are now many companies using this law to chase debtors in their country of residence, we at MCC used this law through a UK company and it was a major contributor to our private owner debt levels falling from over 30% to below 5%.

The reason this law is so useful is that the errant owner has a short period after being notified of the debt before it can be brought before the local courts in his country of residence, it is one thing having a debt in Spain where almost nothing happens for years but quite another to have a CCJ ( County Court Judgement) against that owner in his own country with all that means for his/her credit rating.

Spanish administrators do not like to use this method because frankly there is nothing in it for them, no solicitors cost, nothing. The companies that specialize operate on a no cost to the community basis ensuring that the debtor pays all their costs owning to the collection company or the dreaded CCJ kicks in.

The law can be used for all debts to non Spanish residents, for Spanish residents you have to use the Spanish system, even they have introduced a fast track but you have to pay a lawyer and to be honest it is not much better than the normal system.

Good luck, we know full well how serial debtors can seriously jeapordise a community unless addressed full on and with determination.

Barry

Chaddyowl

Not sure if just painting  "select apartments" is the correct approach. We really need a uniform approach for the resort not one that means that many who are not resident or don't have access to their Presidents will be left waiting without representation. This uniform approach needs to flow through to the maintenance of the other common area as well.

Regards

I've just paid to have our apartment painted as I wasnt going to hold my breath waiting for the work to be done by the community. I also deliberately waited until now on the off chance there might be more building work and the dust would ruin any new shiny paint

I'm delighted with the results but must admit the white/brown stripe now between us and our neighbours does look a bit odd

If there isnt enough money to paint every apartment, the priority for the community should be the areas facing the roads eg Naranjos 3 on the Penthouse side is particularly bad with flaking paint etc. This would give visitors a better impression of the resort

Chavvyowl, read it again - it is very a very constructive comment. I could give you another but would have the censors on it but it involves only you and you alone.

I've been on Condado since day one and even a 12 year old would know that exterior painting is essential and should be budgeted. The alternative is the Balamory look.