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03 Oct 2007 11:30 PM by max! Star rating in Fuengirola. 944 forum posts Send private message

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You can count me in, but then we still require 28 people to sign up for it.

Today I had a sort of informal meeting with the president and the administrator (by now I guess all meetings will be quite informal). Amidst thirty people eager to get the electricians in (Saskia won that battle and got all her clients done by walking around with her ‘personal’ electrician), we discussed some important issues.

Again I can’t tell you all about it as the developer could well be reading here. All smart plans though, some of them regarding the snagging of the communal installations and buildings themselves. I already raised the issue of the low fence at the front of block I and it will be in the first report to the developer.

What I can tell you is that you’re not allowed to put aircons, awnings, tiling, private satellite dishes or glass curtains if they don't confirm to the rules of the community. Even if these rules don’t exist at the moment they will be valid in retrospect. So don’t invest in these things if you’re not sure.

The administrator convinced me that people who already did, really will have to adjust or remove their installations. This is different from my experience in Dutch community buildings where it’s very hard to get people to change existing installations. In Spain apparently it’s much stricter and the penalties are severe so it will just cost you money if you act on your own.

We are currently researching the possibilities for a communal dish for multiple satellites. Every building already has a complete infrastructure for it.

The swimming pool issue seems a town hall license restriction so the quoted Andalucian law is not the decisive factor. Will delve deeper into  it (not the pool but the issue :))




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04 Oct 2007 10:52 AM by gericom99 Star rating in Offaly, Ireland / Ca.... 270 forum posts Send private message

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I would like to correct the impression that it is only the height of the fence in Block 1 that I consider  inadequate - I certainly don't want the fence increased in height to such a degree that it reminds one of a prison compound.  This would completely spoil the view from the terrace and the look of the building from the front.  What I would like to see is a balustrade/balcony at a reasonable height for safety which is strong and fixed/cemented into the ground similar  to those already present on the upper floors of the building.  The existing fence is not anchored in the ground and there is a gap at the bottom which could easily be enlarged.  I suppose it is wishful thinking to hope for this now but I would certainly be prepared to contribute towards the cost of this if the community decided to allow it. 

As for the extra tiling if this is something the community discuss and then decide against, then I for one will be respecting that decision as I have no interest in circumventing rules which are there for the common good.  It is interesting to note however that aircon units, blinds etc have already been installed in some properties and as Max says it's very difficult to have these things changed afterwards.  However I would like to think that matters such as these can be placed on the agenda and decisions reached on them in the appropriate manner.  It does seem as if  we will be starting with various community rules already decided on and hopefully they will be fair and reasonable to all concerned.

I would be interested in receiving Sky via satellite  and also an Internet service.



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04 Oct 2007 9:36 PM by irenemontague Star rating in liverpool/carvajal . 794 forum posts Send private message

Hi how many people do you need in each block to have sky tv before they put up the sky communal dish  thanks irene/peter


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04 Oct 2007 9:44 PM by davmunster Star rating in Carvajal\Belfast. 843 forum posts Send private message

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technically you only need 1! However the community will need to agree to the instalation and the cost will only be borne by those that want it so will be much higher if you were the only one.

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04 Oct 2007 10:02 PM by irenemontague Star rating in liverpool/carvajal . 794 forum posts Send private message

so how long will we have to wait for them to give permission for sky or blinds and air cons thanks irene


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04 Oct 2007 10:17 PM by davmunster Star rating in Carvajal\Belfast. 843 forum posts Send private message

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Very good question Irene - Max will all these issues have to wait until the next community meeting or will we be able to start doing things sooner?

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04 Oct 2007 10:19 PM by max! Star rating in Fuengirola. 944 forum posts Send private message

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Irene, as long as you want. You're the community. Get 25% of the owners together and you can have a meeting in two weeks.
There is no meeting planned at the moment. At the last meeting we decided to schedule the next one somewhere in december to make sure everyone had completed by then. By then we will have some insights in the running costs, the quality of gardening and cleaning and have more info about the issues with the developer.
Hernan our president is currently doing a very good job regarding some important issues. I can't elaborate, but so far I totally agree with him and he is clearly acting on behalf of the owners instead of the promotor.
I would suggest to use a separate topic for the satellite dishes as it is worth a discussion. Remember though that Sky is not not the only broadcaster. For all other nationalites the Sky satellite is hardly interesting ánd to receive Sky is much more expensive than other satellites. Sky needs a very large dish due to the inferior signal quality. For Spanish, Swedish, Danish, German, French and some Dutch owners it would be enough to have a very small dish pointing at another location.
The issue of the too low block I fence also merits its own topic as it is very specific. To give some input I already know that Westport would like to have the standard high communal fence and it will be hard to get a balcony railing there.  



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05 Oct 2007 10:18 AM by Mozza Star rating. 54 forum posts Send private message

Hi Max

Just wanted to thank you for all the information from the community meeting it is very much appreciated and again you are to be applauded for all your hard work

You have already and will no doubt always have the best interests of the community at heart especially as you and your family are permanent residents.

Thank God your English ( and  most of the forum visitors irrespective of nationality ) - is so good  - and it is a good job that english is the most worldwide used language otherwise our communications on this forum would not amount to much - why is it  that we english tend to  find it so hard to learn another language ?    ( frustrated Spanish learner )

Anyway just thanks

 




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05 Oct 2007 6:38 PM by davmunster Star rating in Carvajal\Belfast. 843 forum posts Send private message

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How many members are going over for New Year? I know several of us are and I suggest a Community Meeting on 31st December would achieve maximum attendance



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05 Oct 2007 7:54 PM by irenemontague Star rating in liverpool/carvajal . 794 forum posts Send private message

Hi the 11 december to 18 dec or 2 january to 6 january is fine for us bye irene


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05 Oct 2007 7:58 PM by irenemontague Star rating in liverpool/carvajal . 794 forum posts Send private message

Hi the 11 december to 18 dec or 2 january to 6 january is fine for us bye irene


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