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19 Sep 2007 12:00 AM by Ukproperty Star rating. 72 forum posts Send private message

Hi all,

With everything we have heard regarding burglaries at DV, we have decided that we would feel happier with patio door locks on our 1st floor apartment.  Our keyholder went to fit some for us, but has found a problem -  the centre of the doors come out into a V shape, so it is not possible to put a conventional door lock into the centre of the door locking both together, he does not know what sort of lock will hold them both.  Have any of you other owners managed to find anything that fits to these doors?

Any suggestions greatfully received!

Many thanks

Michelle

 




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19 Sep 2007 2:57 PM by manilvajl Star rating in Manilva as much as p.... 426 forum posts Send private message

I am out next week and will be looking at this myself.

I was going to fit a centre lock as I have done in my other property. If not possible then:-

Alternatives may be something like a hasp and staple on each door with a padlock, as you only open one door at a time one side could be left locked all the time.

At the top of the door on the inside it may be possible to fit a wedge between the inside door and a bracket fitted to the top of the inner door, this has the same effect as a lock in the middle.

The doors are made by climatic I think, maybe one is made for the job?



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19 Sep 2007 3:07 PM by JC1 Star rating in Manchester and La Du.... 963 forum posts Send private message

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Jeff, I am interested too and I am out on Friday for 9 days...perhaps we can exchange ideas as this has already been done by somebody we both know. Bacon sandwich in the square again?

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19 Sep 2007 3:14 PM by Ukproperty Star rating. 72 forum posts Send private message

Hi Jc1,

In your response to Jeff  you say 'this has been done already by someone we both know'.  Does that mean you know another owner that has managed to get something to fit their doors?  If you do know something that might be useful, please let me know.

Many thanks

Michelle

 




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19 Sep 2007 3:24 PM by JC1 Star rating in Manchester and La Du.... 963 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Michelle

It does mean that but I am not sure how until i can see and speak with him, and what has confused me is what you have said about the V shape as I too am on 1st floor and where it has been done is ground floor. When I know i will be providing info via this forum and so will Jeff, I am sure.



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19 Sep 2007 4:50 PM by cjb1 Star rating in I`m in chelmsford & .... 21 forum posts Send private message

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Hi to all

It is possible to fit surface mounted locks on the inside of the patio doors when shut, wicks diy  in the uk have these locks, the only problem is that the lock has to be fitted at either the top or bottom of the frame and in doing so the plastic cover on the frame housing the runner mechanism has to removed/chopped out in order to get a firm flat mounting  (not a very good idea but possible) also the lock is held into position by 2no fairly small self tappers screwed into the frame.( could do with 4 but this is not possible ) I have fitted this type of lock however it is better than nothing .We have also fitted bars to both sides of the sliding doors as well one lays in the bottom recess and the other connects to the door handle and is wedged onto the frame of the other door. hope all this is of some help.

Best Regards to all Chris & Chris




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19 Sep 2007 10:36 PM by PMillsom Star rating in Midlands. 469 forum posts Send private message

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http://ezinearticles.com/?Patio-Door-Security&id=652241

Tipa from above are :-

Another problem with patio door security is that often the glass is not broken or whatnot, but the door is actually lifted right off the track. Drive a screw into the top of the upper track to keep thieves from lifting the door off the track.

and

Why would you want to have your patio door security be visible? Well, for one, if a burglar can see how secure the door is, they are less likely to damage it at all in an attempt to get in. many times they can see that their feat is hopeless, and they may not even try to begin with.

and

If you want the best patio door security possible, then look for a security bar with a patented locking device that can withstand up to 1,000 pounds of force. Look for patio door security bars, and make sure they have features that also prevent thieves from lifting the door off the track.

Bars from http://www.goodbarsecurity.com/Products/Patio_Door_Bars.asp

and http://www.technologylk.com/product_view.aspx?&source_ID=nextag&product_ID=6368

 




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20 Sep 2007 10:00 AM by Ukproperty Star rating. 72 forum posts Send private message

Hi all,

Many thanks to all of you who have replied so far.  I will pass this on to my keyholder.

If anyone else has any ideas, please keep the suggestions coming!

Regards

Michelle

 




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20 Sep 2007 2:16 PM by GR Star rating. 41 forum posts Send private message

Are we allowed to fit wrought iron decorative security devices on doors and terrace windows? I mean nice Spanish designs not ugly things! 

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24 Sep 2007 1:18 PM by Andy Gibbs Star rating. 29 forum posts Send private message

Dont think you can fit window bars as you can not alter the outside apperance. Patio door and window locks work very well though... Regards...


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18 Oct 2007 3:01 PM by manilvajl Star rating in Manilva as much as p.... 426 forum posts Send private message

I have fitted an additional patio locks and a shutter alarms to my apartment.

Send me a PM for a word file with details and pictures of the locks and alarms, please note I will only send to trusted parties.

So ideally I need your name, email address and ideally a UK land line number.

In return I will send the file and my home number so you can call me if you want to discuss the fitting of the  locks etc.



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22 Oct 2007 2:14 PM by JC1 Star rating in Manchester and La Du.... 963 forum posts Send private message

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Chris,   Are you still looking for patio door locks? I am above you as you know so have the same type of doors and have just had locks fitted. I will be out soon and will see what they are like and if ok will let you know how it was done.

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22 Oct 2007 6:19 PM by cjb1 Star rating in I`m in chelmsford & .... 21 forum posts Send private message

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Hi John

Have put bars up on all doors , but would be interested in the locks you have fitted, we are out there 9th to 12th Nov, when are you out there next.

Chris




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22 Oct 2007 6:33 PM by JC1 Star rating in Manchester and La Du.... 963 forum posts Send private message

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Chris. I am out too on 9th for golf. I will see you there then.

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30 Oct 2007 8:28 PM by annabrown Star rating. 10 forum posts Send private message

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I have posted this information under a few different threads. Today my guests at blk 7 on the 2nd floor were broken into. The thieves apparently in broad daylight broke into an unoccupied (unsold) apartment next door - breaking through the front door, and climbed onto my balcony from the adjacent one! They then crow barred my patio doors open. My guests were probably watched to see when they went out. The thieves broke into the safe and took their valuables. So ground floor flats are not the only ones at risk and someone knows that the safes are useless. BE WARNED.

Anna




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31 Oct 2007 8:10 PM by mimmie Star rating. 145 forum posts Send private message

So sorry to hear your news Ana.  I think us owners need to get together and make a formal complaint about security on the site.

Whilst I was in DV recently, noticiably the security guard on the gate was always in place.  However  there are no security checks as to who he is opening the barrier for, so anyone can come and go as they please.   I know this is not an easy one, but I do think there should be some form of security in place, ie someone patrolling the grounds.  Does anyone think we should address this.  At least if there is a presence of a uniformed person, it may act as a deterent, what do you think?

Regards Mimmie

 

 

 




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31 Oct 2007 10:03 PM by twinnie Star rating. 35 forum posts Send private message

I have ordered metal bar locks for all the patio doors and windows, they attach to the door to stop it being slid open and fix with a lock and key . They arrive on Saturday from a locksmith up the coast. ( could save  him a journey if anyone else is interested) He is Scottish so no language barriers!!.. If anyone is interested please send me an email and ill give his number, I also have a couple of pics so you can get an idea of what they look like...


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01 Nov 2007 6:58 AM by slacey99 Star rating in Dorset and Duquesa w.... 276 forum posts Send private message

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Here is a copy of the email I sent to Rosa at AEA almost a month ago, so far I have had no reply.  Maybe it might help if we all approach AEA either individually or as a group.

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From: Steve Lacey [mailto:slacey99@btopenworld.com]
Sent: 05 October 2007 10:34
To: 'Rosa Escuadra'
Subject: Security problems within Duquesa Village


Hi Rosa,

I am becoming increasingly concerned about the security situation within Duquesa Village.

I understand there have been several burglaries in the last few weeks.  All have involved break ins through the terrace doors of ground floor apartments and all have been carried out during the day.   I myself have had people climb up onto my terrace using pallets from the building area to scale the wall and I feel it is only a matter of time before we get burgled ourselves.

The only security provision I can see is the guard and barrier at the entrance to the site.  However, is this person there to protect the interests of the developer or those of the residents?

Is there anything that can be done to improve the situation as soon as possible?

Is this something that has to be organised by AEA or do we deal with the developer directly?  I assume its that of the community and therefore AEA's area of responsibility.

What we need is for a professional security company to take control of the situation as with other developments I have stayed in around the Duquesa Area.

I am not sure what measures can be put in place but as a minimum surely we must have a security guard on duty all day every day including frequent patrols of the development which we are not getting now.

Is this something that is being progressed at all.

Your earliest attention would be most appreciated.

Regards

Steve




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01 Nov 2007 7:54 AM by JC1 Star rating in Manchester and La Du.... 963 forum posts Send private message

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Steve et al I will be meeting with Rosa again , probably the 13th Nov for a couple of reasons. I will raise this issue as its not getting any better in fact the incidences are increasing.

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01 Nov 2007 8:41 AM by PMillsom Star rating in Midlands. 469 forum posts Send private message

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I'm writing to EAE also.

Time for some brainstorming.  please see here and add to the list.

 

Paul




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