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I did some research and it's possible to use the dish on the roof for multiple satellites without any motor. You just receive them simultaneously. For the Brits Sky (Astra 2 satellite) is sufficient, but for other nationalities it would be better if we could receive more stations. Technically it's possible to receive Hotbird, Astra I and Astra II on one dish.
The individual owner can then decide which satellite and which package he wants to use. For German, Dutch, Swiss etc people Sky is certainly not the best option as it's more expensive than other offerings and offers less of our favourite programs.
The extra costs for a multi satellite receiver are not very high and it would broaden interest (as well as being an extra on the rental market).
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About the aerials: I think they are obliged by Spanish law to install a way to receive digital terrestrial television. This is a big thing over here as they want to stop the regular broadcasts.
It offers mostly the same channels as the normal Spanish aerial tv, but with a better quality and a choice of Spanish versus original soundtracks on non spanish series and films. It's available on cable and on aerials over here. The cost of a settop box is about 50E and there are no monthly fee's.
So instead of an obligation to make apartments Sky television ready, I think the tv-shop Jeanmet spoke to meant digital ready als explained above.
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This is a link to the Telefonica website in English which provides good information on the telephone/internet packages available from Telefonica and their prices. You can even apply for their services by completing the application form online.
http://www.telefonicainenglish.com/
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Just had a look at the photos uploaded by alanleach and noticed in one of the pics that one of the penthouse (looks like phase 1 block 6) has got an air conditioning compressor fitted to the side wall as well as a lantern. I thought that the developers were not fitting any air con equipment into phase 1 and that this was to be dealt with after handover & completion. Does anyone know what is going on? Also you will see from the pics that the developers have put up ugly wire mesh fencing all around the circumference of the kiddies pool........this really does not make any sense and looks very ugly!
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You're right RG. I uploaded that particular photo to the shared photo section of this board (dec. 10) for convenience.
Very strange indeed! Maybe someone has 'connections' with the developer?
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Hi,
We visited the site a few weeks ago and one of the penthouses ,has been converted into one huge apartment taking up the whole top floor.Air con was being fitted to all rooms,with walk in shower and very large Jacuzzi bath to master bedroom.All tiles were black slate effect in the bathrooms .Looking very nice and expensive !
Assume it is either the developer or a very good friend
Steve and Sam.
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Hi there
On the air conditioning question, I queried this when I bought my place in July last year and was told (verbally) that it was included. I also reviewed the brochure I was given and under the building specifications it states there is "pre-installation of air-conditioning". To my understanding, this confirmed what I was told verbally - that air-conditioning was included as standard and installed during construction.
Can anyone comment on this? I will be taking this question (and the question of the new building going up in the valley next to the development) with my solicitor, but wanted to see what the consensus was here
Thanks
New Guy
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There is no air con install by the developers in phase 1 (except for the penthouse mentioned earlier in the thread) phase has pre - installation which means the developers will have installed the ducting and all cabling and electrics but you will still need to purchase the main air con unit and have it installed.
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There is still a lot of confusion about this air-con pre installation. I believe there is no pre-installation in phase 1, but there is in phases 2 & 3. I have seen my apartment in Phase 1, and a number of others, and the show home in phase 1, and there is no pre installation.
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We were told by the Viva agent, when we bought our Phase 1 apartment that air conditioning was "pre installed". This turned out to be untrue - however as it is possible to have AC units in the stairwell as well as outside it is possible to have units fitted in each bedroom and the living room with no need for ducting.
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Hi RG\Max Central heating sounds OTT - and where would you put the boiler etc? So I guess the alternative to AC is electric radiators. We plan to go for high quality AC units (1 for each bedroom and 1 for the living room. If you believe what it says on the airmagic site these are whisper quiet and economical even when used for heating.
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This is the discussion in the chit-chat area Davmunster refers to:
Hi RG, You're right that with an integrated airco you don't have that much draught, but as we don't have the ducts in place, most of us will probably settle for the wall mount units. We should move this discussion to the airco thread if we want to continue it as it's quite relevant for all potential airco buyers.
28 Dec 2006 11:43 PM
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Send private message Hi Max Having spent quite a bit of time there in Dec / Jan over the past few years i know what you mean about the cold nights. I think because of the way property is constructed on the coast i.e. to withstand heat' i think in winter it is actually warmer outside then inside most apartments. However i do find some air con heat system better then others, all the apartments i have stayed in which have had a fully ducted system i tend to find to be more then adequate in terms of efficiency and noise but those apartment with individual units i.e. wall mount and external compressor i find to be less so, still probably not the most cost effective way heat i suppose. 28 Dec 2006 7:41 PM
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Send private message It's rather cold at the moment, but it was still comfortable enough to drink a beer in the garden of friends on Christmas day (and have a great meal inside!) The evenings are colder than I expected and I sure miss central heating in our rental. When you go shopping for airco's consider that these are not the most comfortable solution for heating (and quite expensive). If you want to use your appartment in december and january you want some heating system without the constant airflow and sound of a reversed airco.
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You can certainly use your airco for heating, but you're still trying to beat mother nature. You blow hot air from a high point so you end up with a warm head and cold feet. That's why you end up using more electricity than you would expect: you have to warm the room to very high levels to get warm feet. I find this uncomfortable.
The noise level is difficult to discuss. What I find loud is a whisper for someone else.
As for alternatives: central heating is certainly possible, but a lot of construction work. Infra red is a serious possibility. The radiaton heat stays low, doesn't heat up the whole room, but just the objects and would make a great addition to airco heating.
There are quite expensive nifty devices which create state of the art infra red heat (see f.i. redwell elements priced between 1000 and 1500 Euro's a piece) and of course old fashioned electrical heaters with a red glowing spiral (30 Euro's a piece).
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True RG, but you're central heating can work on 35 kg propane cylinders. You need about ten of them a year if you live there permanently. There is a good deliverance service run by Repsol for those bottles.
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The message from Sky below explains why they have not capitalised on the ex-pat market - and makes us all aware that no one can claim to be an "official" or approved Sky installer:
Thank you for your email regarding subscribing to Sky digital.
Sky retails various packages of channels (some owned by Sky, but the majority being third party channels) to viewers in the UK and Eire under the terms of agreements which we have with the rights holders for those channels.
Sky does not have the right to broadcast the channels outside the UK and Eire and it is for this reason that our customer contract states that subscribers cannot take their viewing cards and receiving equipment abroad and use them to view Sky's retailed channels. One exception to this is Sky News which is currently broadcast unencrypted across Europe.
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I see there is mention in earlier posts of a space on the roof of each block for a satellite dish and that prewiring is in place to each apartment, however TV aerials have appeared on the roof of each block so perhaps the wiring is just for these.
Does anyone know where exactly on the roof the space for the dish is and if in fact there is separate wiring preinstalled to facilitate connection to a communal dish for instance?
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