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Illegal builds!!! Not bills - sorry.
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Couldn't agree more. The stress must have taken a great toll on them despite their fighting spirit. You have to admire them
Makes you wonder how some people can sleep at night when this is how they treat people.
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Another scare mongering TV programme designed to put people off moving to Spain. But lets analyse it. We had the couple in Pego who brought a log cabin,no mention of a solicitor involved at all, hmmm Im sure they got an escritura for that! Not!
People who brought in Murcia they had a big villa built. They have their escrituras but have never moved in because builder won't give electric,water and habitacion bolitins. They never had a solicitor or that would have been mentioned. They could move in tomorrow and pay an electrician to check wiring and get a new bolitin etc.
Then the Malaga couple who brought two holiday homes and wouldnt pay the final payment because of a snag list, they could of paid the rest less a 1000 held back for snags. Another couple who did not mention a solicitor.
Oh and the poor couple in Vera who had there mansion pulled down. They had a small RUSTIC plot and decided to build a huge house on it. They did get some local permits but went ahead before they got the Junta Andulcian permits. Most people know if you want to build on rustic land you need at least 12000 square meteres no 1000 m2. I do feel for them I don't think there house should have been pulled down. I think they should have been fined heavily and been able to leaglise there house.
That programme did nothing to help the sales in Spain, the economy of spain.
Spain is getting right up to date with building laws, green energy etc. Just wish we could get out of this recession, crisis thingy we are stuck in.
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I wondered how long it would be before someone blamed the VICTIMS of this criminal behaviour for the problems they are suffering.
Sadly it didn't take long!
During the programme it was said that there were 300,000 properties which are now 'illegal' & at risk of demolition. Of course ALL those buyers were stupid & have caused their own problems! What nonsense!
The problem is the Spanish legal system ignoring & indeed breaking their own laws with impunity, ably abetted unfortunately by BRITISH sales people who are happy to rip off their fellow countrymen. Banks ignoring court orders & choosing not to pay out bank guarantees. Until this is sorted out the problems will continue.
For GOD'S sake stop blaming the victims!
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It is odd how folk who would not consider buying a house in the UK without a solicitor come here and throw caution to the wind.
I wonder if they think the Spanish don't follow the rules?
They jump in, no knowledge of the system no language skills won't pay an interpreter.
Then wonder why the S* hits the fan.
This message was last edited by janie2003 on 11/08/2011.
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Well Said Janie2003,
listen to this:-
I watched out of my lounge window with great amusement at This Bloke!
This Bloke buys a Se Vende sign from Chinese shop and scribbles his mobile number on it.
This Bloke does not have a fixed line telephone number or an office.
This Bloke arrives to show the property in a UK reg car.
This Bloke has been in Spain 11 months.
This Bloke has no training as an estate agent.
This Bloke added 25,000 euro to the owners price.
How do I know This Bloke, I phoned the number on the board, I asked if I could come to his office, I asked how long he had been in Spain, I asked for a fixed line number to contact him on as I had trouble phoning his mobile. I know the people selling the property.
Would you buy a house off This Bloke??????????
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El Jefe says
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eljefe makes a lot of sense to me.
In pretty much everything he/she says and its only been 3 posts
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Yes, Janie. I fear that happens in many many cases. Glad you are saying it, not me. I remember just suggesting what you have said, in a post some time back, and I was blown clean out of the water!! LOL
I agree with El Jefe about the scaremongering. Which is why I don't watch programmes like that. If I want to scare myself well I can always watch "Towering Inferno" or something similar.
Patricia
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Yes Patricia I supppose you are right but if we can save just one from jumping in and getting burnt why should I worry if the 'experts' dont like it.
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Fully agree, Janie.
It is about cautioning people to be careful, to keep their wits about them and to obtain proper legal advice.
Patricia
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Dear All,
great post Justin, tell it like it is.
human nature being what it is, unfortunately, you cannot just escape misfortune and think yourself lucky......no no no that would never do.....you must claim higher intelligence....luck had little to do with it, even prior knowledge from others was not lucky....it was due diligence of course.
and from that position of good fortune plus higher intelligence you have to reinforce your happy position by abusing the victims, absolutely essential for your well being, you cannot be happy without it, not at all. You even describe the hundreds of thousands as a "few", yes just a few.
"For GOD'S sake stop blaming the victims!"
where is the fun in that.
what wonderful people, how glad we are to be rid of them, but we must stop their winter fuel allowance.
Regards
Norman
This message was last edited by normansands on 13/08/2011.
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I think we need to see some real "justice being servied" before we see any positive changes in attitudes towards property in Spain. Sadly, these are very thin on the ground at the moment, probably not helped by the ridiculous amount of time it takes for cases to get to court in Spain. Maybe in a few years time we will start hearing of some positive outcomes to many of these nightmares.
I was just reading an article in Round Town News about one of our members, Andrew Wilford, who was one of the unluckly hundreds of people to have had the misfortune to come across the Trampolin con men....there is no other name for them
You can read that article here.
I really am looking forward to hearing some positive outcomes. We all want it and need it....as does the Spanish property market if its ever going to make any sort of recovery...even a minor one.
Justin
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