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03 Jul 2007 9:05 PM by plexx Star rating in Hertfordshire & Elvi.... 131 posts Send private message

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Hi Rixxy - now that I like. I like that very much. Very much indeed.



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04 Jul 2007 2:34 PM by Rixxy Star rating in San Pedro. 2010 posts Send private message

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More than one way to skin a cat! (I try to know them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Have a good un!



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04 Jul 2007 6:19 PM by LAM1963 Star rating in Lincolnshire, Fortun.... 152 posts Send private message

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With regard to Atlas, Iberian etc the only thing is that laws need changing that agents only get paid there commission once all certificates and licences are handed over that way they might get off their backsides and help the customer.

Lets face it all Agents are Sharks and as with all sharks some are big and will take everything off the bone and others will nibble on you, there is no good agents unless they have a track record of doing nothing wrong and 100% happy customers.

If any agent takes the challenge to open their books to say they are perfect to an independent film company then i will apologise to them for what was just stated

Any Comments ( I do not mean comments from perfect happy experiences once in a blue moon they all get them , comments from disasters turned good only)

Is this to much to ask?






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04 Jul 2007 7:16 PM by morerosado Star rating. 6927 posts Send private message

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Lam, whilst we appreciate you have likely had a real bum deal, please don't tar all agents with the same brush.  You are being too OTT here saying things such as "I believer you are all slime balls unless proved other wise". No, we didn't have a good experience either before you (maybe) ask. We used a large (ish) agent.

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04 Jul 2007 8:14 PM by LAM1963 Star rating in Lincolnshire, Fortun.... 152 posts Send private message

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Ok Its a fair Forum cop ? edited item for you,  in a nice way you will probably do the same ?


It is very easy to knock the large agents but that does not mean the small agents are any better so it needs to be a level playing field. So I invite your comments?


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05 Jul 2007 9:21 AM by georgia Star rating in Algorfa (As seen on .... 1835 posts Send private message

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Hi Lamm 1963,

I would be glad to take you up on the offer.

A small agent

Georgia



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05 Jul 2007 10:15 AM by Rixxy Star rating in San Pedro. 2010 posts Send private message

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Lamm 1963

Same goes for me - no unhappy customers either sellers or buyers - I am happy to pass on their contact details for reference (with their approval) and I did open my doors to the Trevor McDonald TV programme as I have nothing to hide, although I was lambasted by larger agents for telling the truth!!

Feel free to chat sometime



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05 Jul 2007 10:32 AM by Smiley Star rating in San Pedro de Alcanta.... 2502 posts Send private message

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As is quite well known on this site I am not the best friend in the world of estate agents. I was threatened with a law suit approximately 6 months ago by both a lawyer and an estate agent for derogatory comments I made about the way they were dealing with a client who was being pushed into doing something very much not in her own best interests.

I have to say that largely speaking and this is in my experience both personal and professional the smaller agents tend to deal in a straightforward, ethical and honest manner with their clients. We have dealt with smaller companies on the CDS, CB, C de la Luz and as far up as Barcelona and those that we have experience of seem to have the highest integrity. Of course there is always going to be the rogue trader as there are in all walks of life but you shouldnt let the one rotten apple blight your view of the smaller independent. They are far more likely to deal with you well as they are more reliant on client referrals.

In our own business we cannot claim a 100% total satisfaction record - it is bloody close though - however I have to say that the one complaint we have had in 4 years  - and then the client did not formally complain it was more a case of it being dealt with before the complaint arose and in fact it was a matter beyond our control. I dont believe there will be any business that can claim 100% satisfaction but it is the way that a complaint is dealt with that counts and these smaller guys just wont get the recommendations if they dont produce the goods and provide the correct service.



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05 Jul 2007 1:37 PM by Gillespie Star rating in Costa Calida Area. 608 posts Send private message

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Quote Lam1963 - "Lets face it all Agents are Sharks - there is no good agents unless they have a track record of doing nothing wrong and 100% happy customer"

I think that´s a very offensive comment Lam1963 - I suppose the contruction industry in the UK is whiter than white then?

After 7 years in the business and approching our 2,000th sale in the next few months, I can say I have never had a client bringing a case against me or my company, I have had 2 letters of complaint in that time both from clients who had asked me to do something unethical or illegal and the complaints were because I would not bend my rules for therm.

I have hundreds of clients who stay in touch and many of them friends.  I also know many other agents who have the same track record as me.

I have said this before and I shall say it again - If someone selling property causes a client to lose money or causes their client distress through carelessnes or incompetence, then they are not a Professional Estate Agent, rather they are trying to be and failing.  The world is full of failed or wannabes, but that doesn´t make them a representative the that profession any more than I could call myself a Formula one driver.

Sharks are sharks, conmen are conmen and theives are thieves - An estate agent doing their job correctly has the right to be called and is an estate agent!! 

This problem exists all-over the world, if a man makes a mess of repairing your property ,he would not be a builder ,nor would he be a bad builder, not even a rogue tradesman, for he is no tradesman and no builder, he would simply be a conman.!!!



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05 Jul 2007 2:04 PM by morerosado Star rating. 6927 posts Send private message

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Lam1963,

I'm glad you edited your post as it was the most offensive one I've seen in a long time & I've been privy to a few whilst in forums. I captured a flavour of it as I copied & pasted a bit of it in my post directly after yours. I am telling members I copied & pasted it as, unlike you,  I can spell !!

Sounds to be as if you love the "sound" of your own "voice" to be going on & on & on & on about the same thing. As I've said to you before it's very unfortunate you've experienced bad agents/whatever but you're not the only one. It doesn't mean all agents are bad. The smaller ones seem to be quite dedicated. If we sell our property in Spain I'd go straight to Georgia, who has become a friend now & he's in our local town, very convenient..



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05 Jul 2007 3:13 PM by georgia Star rating in Algorfa (As seen on .... 1835 posts Send private message

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ahhhhhhhhhhh,thanks morerosado,i am touchedand thanks for putting that picture of me on the "hi low" thread".

LAM 1963-I consider myself more of a dolphin than shark,far more friendlier and intelligent.

If you wish to bring the cameras to the aquarium,then feel free.

Regards

Georgia

P.S I echo Rixxy and Gillespies comments(it's just toooooo hot to argue!)


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05 Jul 2007 3:22 PM by morerosado Star rating. 6927 posts Send private message

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"thanks for putting that picture of me on the "hi low" thread".

Isn't he just like you too, Georgia. (Would be your spitting image once you've removed your red RightMoveEspana shirt )         

 



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05 Jul 2007 3:24 PM by georgia Star rating in Algorfa (As seen on .... 1835 posts Send private message

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Easyyyyyyyyy Tiger!!!!!

 



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05 Jul 2007 5:48 PM by LAM1963 Star rating in Lincolnshire, Fortun.... 152 posts Send private message

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I am pleased that a few of you agents are not sharks and for that i would apologise to you on my remark

I hope that by the amount of time some of you have been on this site that you are advertising on this site if you are great  if not why not

I quote the self appointed forum police morerosada 

may be wrong but I'm often correct

Isn't this a commercial post (or not ?)

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05 Jul 2007 5:51 PM by Rixxy Star rating in San Pedro. 2010 posts Send private message

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I dont advertise on this site nor do I post my ewb or use my real name and thats cos I as alongside the others give of our time and advice freely.

I didnt come on here to obtain work but mainly for the chat and fun which you may see on many of the threads.

Hope that answers your query!



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05 Jul 2007 6:02 PM by morerosado Star rating. 6927 posts Send private message

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" I quote the self appointed forum police morerosada  "

I've been upgraded then, woohoo !



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05 Jul 2007 6:03 PM by LAM1963 Star rating in Lincolnshire, Fortun.... 152 posts Send private message

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Thank you Rixxy some members obviously are here for financial gain i am pleased you are not one of them?

One member is very quick to tell others about commercial posting but is hypocrite enough to do it themselves for certain others

'Sound of own voice'  if you've got it flaunt it

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05 Jul 2007 6:04 PM by Lauryc Star rating in Was South Devon .. n.... 520 posts Send private message

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That is so true.

We were driving through Guardamar last week and I was looking at every agent's window as we passed wondering which if any were  Georgia's.

Crummy advertising then in my book.

 

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05 Jul 2007 6:05 PM by Smiley Star rating in San Pedro de Alcanta.... 2502 posts Send private message

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Just so you know how the site works Lam1963 there is no direct advertising here. All adverts are placed on the site by Google - the site has been set up so that it can be completely independent with no influence brought to bear by those with a commercial interest. Thus nobody that comments on here can advertise here unless it is placed here by Google and subject to the contract the company has with Google will determine whether it gets placed on this site or not. Hence the advice and information given here is given freely of those that have the time and the inclination to get involved in both a professional and personal manner. Hence you will find many of us giving advice on anything from driving to health to licences - not simply coming in here to slag off individuals that give up their time to help others - oh bollocks I was in quite a good mood and now at the end of the day it has been ruined.

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05 Jul 2007 6:06 PM by Rixxy Star rating in San Pedro. 2010 posts Send private message

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Financial gain from this site??? hahahahahah - good laygh!

I soend so much time enjoying myself on here I dont get any owrk done, which is why my kids wear only rags for clothes and their shoes are selotaped together......................

No seriously, Im only here for the beer!



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