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31 Jul 2017 11:49 AM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4551 posts Send private message

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Interestingly, since this thread was hijacked with silly & irrelevant talk of citizenship and assets, the OP (not surprisingly) hasn't been back. He last posted on EOS about 5 years ago, asking much the same thing, but was at that time about to buy a property in Spain. 

In case he is still watching, I think the important thing to establish is, having bought a property, has he been submitting his non-resident tax returns regularly (modelo 210)?

Or, being in Spain more than 90 days, has he registered on the EU citizens register? Has he registered on the padrón at his local town hall? Is he a pensioner, and has he registered for free public health care? If he has done none of these former things, or anything else to alert the authorities to his potential status as fiscally resident, and as long as he has submitted his non-res tax returns, I imagine (as John pointed out earlier on) that there's little likelihood of the authorities being too bothered looking into the exact number of days he spends in Spain - or checking his mobile phone records! Perhaps he's being a little paranoid, or perhaps he thinks there's a good reason why they might be interested in him - only he knows. But also as John said, going to the Canaries for a couple of weeks won't achieve anything, so he should save his money if he was hoping that would avoid any potential tax liabilities.

Or he could talk to the wind. wink



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01 Aug 2017 9:10 AM by windtalker Star rating. 1949 posts Send private message

Roberto what is the point of having a ...183 day EU law. ..l for one don't understand what you are trying to say in your last post ...is it not wise to stay within the Law...why would the authorities want to check your mobile ..would it not be easier to check your water and electric bills and your bank statement   ..for instance when you look at my bills it is easy to work out that I am  in Spain ever 6 weeks for 1 week throughout the year...via my bank statement /water and electric bill that is paid via standing order.

 


 


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02 Aug 2017 4:51 PM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4551 posts Send private message

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"l for one don't understand"

What a great epitaph that would make for you!

There is no "183 day EU law".  (A little light reading, if you can be bothered: http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/taxes/income-taxes-abroad/index_en.htm)

I never said the authorities would be interested in your (especially your) mobile phone records. I actually said the opposite, if you'd taken the trouble to read my post properly.

"if you know anything different from what I have posted...THEN POST IT" - I already did. Read again.

Don't stop, WT - I love your unfailing willingness to utterly humiliate yourself laugh

 



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02 Aug 2017 5:07 PM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

Windtalker..        for instance when you look at my bills it is easy to work out that I am  in Spain ever 6 weeks for 1 week throughout the year...via my bank statement /water and electric bill that is paid via standing order.

Sorry Windtalker,   but  whilst  unity bills will show when electric, water etc. was consumed, they do not prove who the consumer was.     Also such bill do not prove that the customer was only in Spain for the period when the meters were running.  He/she may have been staying somewhere else. 

Sorry if that a too obvious a thing to say.





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02 Aug 2017 7:16 PM by windtalker Star rating. 1949 posts Send private message

** EDITED - Against forum rules **

 


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