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Hi, we are visiting site late September with a hope of getting some definite info on start date of Phase 2.
I will take some photos and post an update when I get back.
Lets hope its positive
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Hi, we are visiting site late September with a hope of getting some definite info on start date of Phase 2.
I will take some photos and post an update when I get back.
Lets hope its positive
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One thousand thanks to Worchester, a happy man who was the one braking the news and hopefully the evidence that we have "made it through the night", seen the end of the tunnel, about to reach the other side of the desert.....
I can not remember I have been so enthusiastic before about a few pictures on the internet of a cement car parked in a desert or a few workers in a place that looks like the moon...
One can wonder what has happened, but I guess this means that political forces at one or another level has agreed formally, one way or another, to sanction the project. (Either in Campos del Rio, in Murcia or at governmental level)
Lets just enjoy the moment for a while, and remember this turning point, just when it looked as darkest...
I will also like to congratulate ourselves, in the belief that we made a difference by staying positive, holding the faith, and support the project in its difficulties.
I am sure that what we have expressed and communicated on this forum must have been a moral support and a help to the guys pushing this forward. We know that the people in Grupo Trampolin are watching us by following this forum.
And if some of you Grupo Trampolin people see this: Please forward our congratulations to your management.
OGO
This message was last edited by ogo on 9/12/2008.
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Ogo, sorry, but am I missing something here! I for one have tried to stay positive and in support of TH all the way. However the whole reason why we have had to communicate with each other and try to gain information wherever we can is because TH find it impossible to communicate in any way with their clients. Have we heard anything on this from TH??? If it wasn't for the likes of yourself, Worcester, Jackinhove, murciaboy and others we would never know what is going on. So to thank Grupo Trampolin and their management is beyond me.
That having been said, yes we are going in the right direction and about time too. I only just wish that my forthcoming holiday to Mexico in two weeks time could have been spent in my new villa in Spain.
Looking forward to meeting you all sometime in the NEAR future!!!!!
Tracy
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I, for one, do feel some gratitude towards GT. They have, very persistently, tried to stand up against the local government and tried to push this projects with all measures.
We have to remember that the situation we were/are in is entirely out of their hands and not their fault. This is the fault of the incompetent mayor of Campos Del Rio, who should have resigned right away when the conflict of interest arose.
However - GT does have a a few serious problems:
- They are incapable of communicating properly with their clients. And this fact has made many of their customers angry and caused serious distrust.
- They are extremely unrealistic at times. Like for example the last flare when they told the world that the project would be accepted within a week - which of course, never happened. But I am sure that there was some discussion going on between GT and the local government which caused this unrealistic optimism to flare up on behalf of GT.
One might argue that GT does not deserve the graditude because of the above. I for one often felt as being pulled by the ears.
But personally I really am grateful for the fact that GT did not run away with their tail between their legs when the going got tough. Such are the actions of indecent folks and criminals.
Don't worry. Be happy! :-)
-- Bjorn
Plot 156
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I think I must be missing something !!!! are we buying off Trampolin hills, sorry i thought we were buying off Polaris World no wait its Masa I think, Oh I cant remember who it is !!! Whats it matter they're all the same. These companies are renowned for not replying, I think my Spanish lawyer works for them, he has not replied to me in two years and thats about another project i have, actually my Spanish Architect does reply to me but then i did pay him 5,000 euros, lets hope the building work continues and all goes well, its just good to see and hear that work is at last being done, hopefully those of you visiting soon will be able to lift us even more with more constuction photos, till then lets remain positive, by the way whats happened to all the Royal Dreamers I would think they must be reading our forum as they're not writing on theirs, anyone know, how many properties they have sold or why no one is writing ? Write soon folks, remember anyone new, the more posts you make the more stars you get by your name.
Regard to all & RD Evad
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Hi Guys `n` Dolls,
Just to let you know that I will be out in Spain from 23 Sept and will call on TH. We were due to go to Egypt but we got caught up in the XL.COM fiasco and have had to cancel that so we have rebooked and decided to go back to Spain, so will call on TH and take some pics etc and again interrogate the staff there again.
Keep up the good work and don`t forget allways look on the bright side of life.
regards
Brian (Granada 16c)
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I found the following today most of which we already know but its nice to know that it is still in the press.....
The workers work on houses Trampolín Hills despite that has not been approved in the House.
The mayor of Rio de Campos and the developer are confident that the council can validate the project in October
The promoters of the controversial draft Trampolín Hills-which includes 2,700 houses, two hotels and a golf course-it seems they want to force the hand of the municipality of Campos del Rio, which still depends on the approval of the project. So much so that although the House already rejected giving the go-ahead to this urbanization, operators are already working in the houses. In fact they have never stopped, according to company sources, who required only that are taking place earthwork and what is known as "melt the slab, that is, flattening the ground for subsequent placement of the foundation.
The mayor of Rio de Campos, Miguel Navarro, said yesterday at La Verdad his hope that "once we have all reports, it is possible that, at the end of this month, approve the project. It may be recalled that in addition to several problems because of the guarantees of the company and complaints by purchasers of housing, construction of urbanization is essentially paralyzed by the challenge made by the opposition party, the PP, Mayor and another councilman, to understand that they had economic interests in the company. On this aspect, Navarro made no comment.
Moreover, he said the CEO of SL Trampolín, Juan Francisco Canales, "the mayor cree" which in October is the deadline two years since we had economic interests in the company. Thus, in theory, the project could succeed. However, Canales insisted that the company has always fiado in a legal report prepared by the municipal secretary, which argues that "the situation of the mayor was not to be disqualified" and in which, in addition, we conclude that disqualification should be submitted and rejected in a vote in plenary municipal levels.
For his part, chairman of Trampolín SL, Antonio Martínez, considered yesterday that the matter not be resolved until October or November "and said, again and as has always done, that" the only thing we want is to give the houses to people '.
The stoppage of the project this year has brought a multitude of complaints by buyers of houses, which have already invested part of their savings.
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Brian
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I am here in Murcia and visited TH yesterday. I was well treated and given newspaper articles which has been posted on the message board already. the information is that the project will go ahead next month. (heard it !!!!! ) A number of staff have left the company as virtually no sales have been made since the publicity about the development has broken. However the company believe that they will be in a strong position to deliver the promised land very soon.
To be fair to them I did see evidence of this in the shape of the groundworks and foundations and also the steelfixers were hard at work (well as hard as the Spanish get ) putting the steel erections in place for the founds to be concreted.
I am on phase 1 block 2 and was shown the big hole in the ground where the founds are going in. I was told that if they start as expected in november it will be ready in 1 year from then. This is true with block 1 and also the villas around that area as they are first to be built.
All in all I heard nothing new only that it starts next month. YEAH YEAH YEAH !!!!!
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Hey one and all......
Well it all sounds more promising than a couple of months ago. I've just recieved a reply this morning from an email I sent to them about three weeks ago!
I've attached it below, although it seems to be more of what we now understand to be the case.
Happy Days!
Dear Richard
Sorry for any delay due to my vacation. Please see below the latest information gained from the office on my return:.............many thanks Jane
The Mayor of Campos del Rio, is disqualified for voting for a period of two years (because he was Real Estate Agent and he sold Villas and Apartment of Trampolin during 2.005/2.006 as a commissioner),this is why the official political PP reclused him and this has been the main problems for not approved our project and to obtain the ratification to the final license to start building at the 100% instead as we are right now, only at 3%.
On August the 18 we have found a way to start the construction in Trampolin Hills Golf Resort, meanwhile we are awaiting the final permission, but we have done it that way because we need to give a final solution to this impasse after 18 months of waiting.
Right now our customers on the first phase blocks of apartments and the first villas are being contacted to begin (again) with the selection of materials (as those have been changed for the better quality in all aspect, even when many of them already have chosen months ago.
Finally we ask our customers to communicate with us or with his Estate Agents or even with the Town Hall of Campos del Rio, the Mayor or Secretary to get accurate first hand information whenever they require accurate first-hand information.
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OH ISN'T IT GREAT
I LOVE IT
ENJOY!!!
The next thing we need to do is to get the global market situation solved EH EH...
And for all of you getting more info, keep on posting to inform us all
OGO
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Hi all I've just been studying the new plan of the golf course that Worcester has posted, and have just noticed something interesting on it , what I am refering to is the lines on the plan showing the phases, if this is accurate then instead of being one of the first plots on phase 3 my plot is now shown well into phase 2, If anyone that is going over could ask them if this is correct, I would be interested to know how this will effect any time scale to completion.
Regards Evad
I've just spotted something else!!! and I cant see that anyone else has mentioned it . There is a new response from TH on their web site I check it daily, though its dated 12th sept but its in Spanish and you cant copy and paste it or translate it so get busy and find out what this is about. And let us know !!This message was last edited by evad on 9/19/2008.
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I have tried to translate it the best i can from the group trampolin website apologies for the bad presentation but i think we can get the jist of what he is saying.
ESTMADO CLIENT
DIRJO ME TO YOU. AS PRESIDENT OF THE GROUP TRAMPOLINE to thank CONFLANZA deposited in NOSTRA THAT HAS TO BE PURCHASED AT A SHELTER IN WHICH WE PTOMOVIENDO RESIDENTIAL COMPLEX IN THE TOWN OF RIO DE CAMPOS Murciano.
THIS IS PART OF THE PROJECT IS CONSIDERED AS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND ambitious of the region as is equipped with ALL THOSE FACILITIES AND SERVICES necessary so you can enjoy Housing WITH ALL YOUR CONVENIENCE IN AN ENVIRONMENT as enjoyable, entertaining and enjoyable POSSIBLE.
However, despite that the project meets all the requirements required for its approval, THAT IS WHAT SOME IN THE PAST MESSE THROUGH SOME MEDIA AND MISCELLANEOUS FORUMS FOR INTER Nauta has spread misinformation and malicious JUST HAVE CREATED CONFUSION AND DOUBTS ON THE LEGALITY OF OUR PROJECT. I assure you that ALL THIS INFORMATION IS FALSE AND TEST OF THIS IS THAT WORKS IS NOT HAVE PARALLZADO IN NO TIME TO END IF YOU CAN MAKE THE CHECK FOR CONSULTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL DEL RIO DE CAMPOS WHERE YOU reported that the draft is only PENDING OF VARIOUS TRAMITIES bureaucratic will be held during next October.
IN DEFINITIVE I wish to convey my most sincere thanks for RELY ON THIS COMPANY IS THE COMPLETE AND SAFETY PROMOTION TO THE FINISH IN WHOLE IN THE TERMS Covenant and their full satisfaction.
SINCERELY,
Antonio MARTINO GONZALES
PRESIDENT OF GROUP TRAMPOLINE
regards
Brian (Granada 16c)
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My company has been retained by a major UK TV Media company to carry out an investigation into corruption within the Spanish Property Development industry. In this particular case we are looking very closely at the company known as both Trampolin Hills and Trampolin Solera with developments both West and East of Murcia. Our research to date shows a callous disregard for their clients and the total abuse of company funds by the Directors … in particular a Mr Antonio Gonzales. Evidence shows that on both developments clients deposits have been used to fund a “lavish lifestyle” and that with all monies now expended they are in extreme financial difficult.
With regard to Trampolin Hills it appears that with some 80-90% of the first phase having been sold and with 50% of the full asking price having been received from clients that this money has now gone. At Solera the situation is slightly different … several properties have been sold AT LEAST twice to different clients some of whom have paid in full with others having paid at least 50%. Furthermore it has been discovered that the majority of properties have been mortgaged to CAM Bank WITHOUT the knowledge of buyers; these mortgages are now in default. The bottom line is that the company have received up to twice the vale of these properties with the potential for two or more clients “fighting” over the same units! This we feel is potentially a fraud on a MASSIVE scale. Indeed, we understand that embargos have been placed on many properties which are free of all charges and so it is quite possible that you could find YOUR property has a 1/3rd party embargo placed upon it.
We understand that company Directors are filtering off funds to purchase properties of their own in the region at the expense of staff salaries. If any of you have details of these properties we would be very keen to hear from you.
We are inviting anyone who may fall into this category to contact our company with any information which you may have. Please indicate in your reply which development you are concerned with and whether or not you would wish your details to be revealed to a third party (TV company). Please be assured that ALL communications received will be viewed in the STRICTEST CONFIDENCE and any details will not be released without your consent both verbally or in writing.
This site does not allow the inclusion of a “hyperlink” to an email address. However, our user name for THIS investigation is disresearch1 (the “1” is critical) so simply follow this with the “at” symbol” and then add aol com.
Regards
David Williams, DIS Research and Media Investigations
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WHAT?
Is it Dis-investigation or Dis-trust or Dis-research?
I would Dis-respect these guys
I googled the company but could not find any links,, at least i would urge you all to be careful and think twize...
OGO
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HI GUYS
QUITE AGREE I AM TOTALLY DIS-INTERESTED WITH WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY - ANOTHER PLONKER - THINK WE SHOULD TELL THEM TO DIS-POKE THEIR DIS-INVESTIGATION.
REGARDS
BRIAN
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I am both DISmayed and DISappointed that a genuine attempt by a bona fide company can be so misunderstood. With regard to Google; they neither claim or do list details of every organisation worldwide. The very nature of our business means that we work from “leads” and sources which WE track down so as to avoid a waste of time and expense with telephone calls from “cranks” … for that vey reason we ONLY divulge our contact numbers once we are satisfied that we uncovered accurate information worthy of further investigation. By using email alone in the initial stages of our research we are able to decide who we wish to make contact with. All I can tell you is that our work has featured with ALL the major UK media and TV companies and at least two European organisations.
We can be investigating anything from the contamination of waters around the UK coasts to the price of alcohol in Supermarkets; from “child abuse” to airline companies. We operate to strict criteria handed down to us by clients and ONLY when we feel we have uncovered an area of interest do we react. All I can assure you is that we have actual documented evidence of our claims which leads us to one very sorry conclusion.
Two of you at least appear happy with your “investments” and we are genuinely pleased for you. However there are very many more who are not and so I feel the tenor and manner of your response is extremely DISrespectful; your comments will therefore be DISregarded. If in the meantime any of you have genuine concerns we would be pleased to hear from you. David Williams
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David Williams! He is a comedian isn't he?
I thought you couldn't tout for business on this forum!
Regards,
Worcester
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as stated in the previous postings, we cannot contact you with a made up address! mr david plank! willams. if you are to invent something at least do it properly!!!
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