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11 Mar 2010 6:20 PM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

The association founded in October 2009 that representing the interests of
all the affected customers with no hidden or particular interests is again
on.

The possibility of having our money back is impossible due to the actual
status of Trampolin Company.

We are fighting for a long time to obtain the land and the housing project
as a payment for the given money.

We have to be a big number to have strength enough and being able to obtain
it and that’s why we need you to join us in order to assert your rights

Many of you can’t travel here so we are redacting a document in order to
represent you in the negotiations. You have to sign it and include a copy of
your ID card.

This document won’t commit you in anything. It just allows us negotiating in
your name and if we win, you will be owner of a percentage of the housing
according to the previous contract you had with Trampolin.

We are fighting for our rights. There are no expected payments and if there
would be any in the future, you would be noticed and everything would be
explained in detail.

There is no hidden interest in this petition. We only want this to go ahead
in the benefit of all the affected buyers.

Soon we will send you the document that you can sign to allow us
representing you. Please, feel free to ask any question.

write me a privatte mesage i can not write de email

 




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24 Mar 2010 9:11 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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24 Mar 2010 11:30 PM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

ok we have a platform, we are about 500.

We are fighting for recuperate the land (its value is high)and we are fightiing against Campos del Río Council and the Murcia Regional Government. Bit this way is very difficult and we will not see the money.

This causes previous, and is a waste of time and especially of money

 

platform is free

 

how to inscribe??

You can download the document here http://www.afectadostrampolin.com/eng.doc

You must fill it, sign it and send with a copy of your id card to concurso@afectadostrampolin.com

 




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24 Mar 2010 11:47 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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please bear in mind that the land has become rustic again (not zoned to built) - due to the sentence from the Murcia Administrative Court nº 1, so the value of the land is much lower than before. Furthermore, there are more than 2000 buyers. Do you thing that with the sale of rustic land (whose location is not specially good) you can get  money enough to repay everybody (court administrator fees inclusive)? A rustic land located in a place like Campos del Río won't cost more than a few thousand euros. In my opinion the proposal of your association is not a good idea now.

And how can you confirm that any money is going to be obtained after the process against the Town Hall and the Murcia Reg Government? Is the most realistic way to follow now to get money refunded and the rates of succes are high,




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25 Mar 2010 12:20 AM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

mmmm what rare this...

 

do you see the sentence of juez miñarro (marzo 2010)???

 

this not affected us!!!!!

 

this field as usual. That news does not affect us.

you have really read the sentence? Do you want it??


and above this is free!




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25 Mar 2010 12:24 AM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

Guadalupe is not very good loocking for customers in the forum.



fighting city hall is a losing battle, a lot of time and money.

Please do not deceive us and not try to get us more money, which we have already been scammed once

 

we are more than 500 affected, we need a lawer ,

 

Regardss




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25 Mar 2010 10:40 AM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

It is impossible to recover the money reported to the council and government of Murcia.

 We are about 2000 buyers and over 60 million.

Never never and never Counciel or government of murcia pay us one euro, because if you pay to one, must pay all claiming, and it never will be.

Sorry, but I've asked and we are not convinced, we fight on the floor, talking with managers and government consursales murcia, the ground now about 20 or 30 million when complete its urbanization process will cost about 80 million.
We have the judicial report.

if we have field several promoters want to build.Because field and sales are made.Is the only real way to see our money or home.

We are many and need help from lawyers.

We are buyers and we gathered for free.

We just need the ground to see our dream made reality.

platform is free

 

how to inscribe??

You can download the document here http://www.afectadostrampolin.com/eng.doc

You must fill it, sign it and send with a copy of your id card to concurso@afectadostrampolin.com

 

 

 




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25 Mar 2010 11:35 AM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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it is not the council or the murcia regional government who decide if the pay you or not. It is the Court of Justice. And if the court sentences that they have to pay, the must to. And as you can imagine, they have enought money and assets to repay. And you are wrong when you say that they will have to repay the 2000 buyers. They will just repay the ones who have claimed.

I guess you are not a lawyer or either a solicitor, so I find that it you are a little bold asserting the way you do.

I whish you good luck anyway.




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25 Mar 2010 11:46 AM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

these wrong it is a waste of money and other deception to purchasers.


whether justice pays one will have to pay them all and reclaim all that is feasible buff ..

 

good luck to you and your customers.




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26 Mar 2010 10:43 AM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

I think  you are more bold than me (to Guadalupe)... to say that the ruling of Judge Miñarro said that the floors are rustic ...

i have doubt if you are a real lawyer...how can you say that??this not afectt us!!!

DO YOU READ IT? OR YOU ONLY HAVE YOU READ THE NEWSPAPER?

Only you think in win money, and we only Want our house or our money!

and claim the money that the Court  of Justicie...in spain is imposible, and you know... we want real solutions? or retire and still not solve anything?

So if you charge as much, and that's a long process that even if he recovers the money, people  have spent IT in court, lawyers and solicitors this money-

 

In platform we are more than 575.

we want  real solution, firts the land, and then we will can demand the Administration liability (against Campos del Río Council and the Murcia Regional Government).

 

 

how to inscribe??

You can download the document here http://www.afectadostrampolin.com/eng.doc

You must fill it, sign it and send with a copy of your id card to concurso@afectadostrampolin.com

REMEMBER : IS FREEEE

 

 

MORE INFORMATION : concurso@afectadostrampolin.com

 

Best whises

 



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31 Mar 2010 1:10 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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Please be informed that the Administrator appointed by the court in the meeting of creditors has already issued his report regarding Trampolin financing status and his proposal for the outcome of the meeting. He proposes to liquidate trampolin and states that the transfer of lands and assest to the creditors / affecteds cannot be accepted because is forbidden by the law. Obviously the creditors have 10 days to appeal, but the target of the associations or platforms who intended to get lands transferred in their names seems very complicated now, and my opinion is that they have a long legal way to walk with low guarantees of success.




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31 Mar 2010 3:45 PM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

In our platform, own layer is fighting against the Council.(if someone wants this way)

 

Platform is free

 

 

concurso@afectadostrampolin.com

 

 

About article 100.3, only i can say one thing: you dont have any idea!!!!

seriously are you a lawyer? (to Guadalupe)

 

do you understand "la ley Concursal".

 

How do you want to defend us, if you dont know about ley concursal???

 

In this case PEOPLE NEED A LAWYER EXPERT IN DERECHO CONSURSAL, AND ALL BUYERS BE JOINED!!

 

concurso@afectadostrampolin.

 

 

Regards




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31 Mar 2010 5:06 PM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

Hi all

Below is a post sent to the spanish forum...and which has been translated..

Spanish Forum post:

"its known that the administrators have already  sold equipment / machinery of Trampolin, worth over 200,000 euros for 47,000 euros and this they have allocated to themselves already!!!!

These crafty people have pulled the money that should be used to settle and recover the losses of those afected, but because  they  are first catching everything fast and making sure they recieve their 500,000 euros per head that they want, they give us nothing out of this sale of machinery

.

This is really bad so please move all to take action !!!!!!! "

 

well after I read this I wonder if anyone can confirm if this is true..? I for one am speachless...what a total disregard..just looking out for themselves and stuff as all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sollel




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31 Mar 2010 5:14 PM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

 

 

pps...and i really dont understand why the administrators feel they deserve so much....what for...a good job done ? ...what a joke !!! all the computers in the offices and other valuables on site (see pictures showing the  bare offices in previous posts) that could have been sold earlier were left just lying there...seemingly to be taken (allegedly by the company) before the administrators finnally seemed to do their job !! ...so what job did they do in the end !!!!

 

 

Solell




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31 Mar 2010 5:44 PM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

 

Dear all latest news just received from the Spanish Newspaper " La verdad" regarding our situation so far...

 

"All seems to have disappeared/ gone. Except for land and commercial premises, no one could take home, the remainder of property acquired by the firm Trampolin Hills Golf Resort Ltd. trace is not known. So what have the administrators noted the receivers- Alberto Gómez Martínez-Escribano, Carlos Llarena Bethencourt, Alcolea Cristina Ruiz Navarro, Ernesto Hernandez, the did the report brought to the Commercial Court number 2 in Murcia, which is processing creditors contest on the real estate.


In the lengthy document, consisting of 442 pages that are held by 'La verdad', the administrators of the estate qualify as "active non-localized" a large amount of property that should be held by the company. But they are not. Among these goods 'disappeared' include 39 vehicles and trailers, most notably a Ferrari 512TR, Ferrari F35 and a Volvo 960 Spider Executive (all valued at 300,000 euros), seventeen trucks, eight cars and up to two tractors.


An enviable transport fleet that was acquired by the company in its good times and whose whereabouts the court representatives are not aware of. Something that also happens with fifty machines of all kinds, including large quantity of heavy machinery such as backhoes, bulldocers, scales, gondolas, lifts, dumpers and cranes, with all office furniture (coffee, armchairs and even air conditioners), more than 50 computers and even billboards, signs and awnings.


This is the most striking aspect of an insolvency report, however, does not leave much in the wrong place the status of the promoter, at least as far as assets are concerned. Although the administrators consider that the planned developments of Trampolin Hills Golf Resort (about 2,500 homes around a golf course) is unworkable and there is no other way than to wind up the company - "this project today and in the light of illiquidity in the commercial competition, becomes absolutely unworkable, "outlines, the truth is that it also notes that the company's assets far outweigh the liabilities. Or what is the same, the value of the assets of the promoter far exceed its debts.


Thus, in the section called 'analysis of the debtor's assets', that is, Trampolin Hills Golf Resort Ltd., managers outlined that the total assets amounted to 82,552,206 euros, well above 62,557,091 euros of liabilities.
Thus, the surplus of the company has been set at EUR 17,537,260.


The high amount of the asset is substantially the valuation administrators make on every real estate company, consisting essentially of a long series of farms in the barrel places up and down Campos del Rio, which was going to build the development, and whose value is estimated at 69 million euros.


The four representatives of the court had ignored the recent ruling of the Commercial Court No. 1 of Murcia, which nullified the planning agreement signed between Trampolin Hills and the city of Campos del Rio to reclassify the land on which it was intended to raise urbanization. The high value that managers have made these lands targets those who do not believe that the court converts back to the rustic land, or depriving them of so much of their value.
In these 69 million euros worth of land there must be added another 205,000 euros for the value of two offices and a garage that also were in the name of the promoter.
As regards financial assets, this sum over 12.5 million between loans and securities deposited by Trampolin Hills.
 is hope for customers


The report of the receivers opens a door of hope for hundreds of customers who purchased any of the 1,700 houses that the developer sold off plan and to deliver large quantities to account, to add some 53 million euros. These buyers, who today are homeless and without recovering the money they gave the company with the promise that they would have a house, could end up recovering your investment in full or at least largely, if achieved by suitable output such assets to the company.

From sources close to Trampolin hills the report states that the bankruptcy has been met with modest satisfaction, believing that recognition of the high value of the assets opens the way to a solution satisfactory to all parties, especially for customers, who could recover your money, or built their homes to see if another company chooses to recover the project."

 

hmmmm I have also heard other contradictory info to the above so who knows?.....but I think the effort of all in the afectaded group (especially that of Joaquin Guzman who have done numerous radio and tv reports) will eventually see the best results so that everything is out in the open and can absolutely not be hidden...which is very dangerous for all of us.....so let us all keep it moving and not stop till the result is satisfactory!!

 

Sollel




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02 Apr 2010 12:03 AM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

Just a thought

 

pps..is it me or are there more smoke and mirrors going on....regarding the info in the paper "la verdad" that the administrators have calculated the value of the land in their report bumping up the value of assets that could be shared out ( therefore dismissing the fact that a court seems to have decided that the land is not urbanizable and cannot be built on). 

According to the report in the newspaper the "la verdad" it seems that the administration are dismissing this "little bit" of information that the court has cancelled the agreement between the council of campos del rio and trampolin to make the land urbanizable, meaning its not for the investors who have paid large sums of money for their houses to be built on it. hmmmmmm ? dont know if im being cynical but am feeling that this is another way of getting us off the administrators back and to stop the complaints as if we think we might get something then we wont fight on...in my experience they could quite easily turn around and say " oh yes of course your right the courts have made the land unurbanizable for Trampolin so yeh sorry nothing doing" whilst still paying themselves nice fat payouts...cynical I know but experience has taught some of us well ! 

 

Sollel


 



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02 Apr 2010 12:16 AM by Trampolin-spain Star rating. 30 forum posts Send private message

The report is a hoax, we're fighting from the platform because it is done well.

The land is worth 70 million and say there are 12 million missing ... then to have it?

is a story to justify their pay 500,000 euros and stay calm for this to go fast and they collect the money and we do not get anything.

 

 

concurso@afectadostrampolin.com




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