Telecomms

 Hi Just seen this on the Naranjos 1 website :-

Dear owners,

You should of received an email from myself today on the options for Telecoms for the following year.  The proposal has 4 options for you to choose from ranging from a basic TV system to one with internet and telephone included.  Obviously the option you choose will have an effect on the community budget and hence your community fees.  Please take the time to consider which option you would prefer and let me know your decision over the coming weekend.

Regards

Phil

My president hasn't mentioned anything?  Is it the same deal that La Isla and La Torre are getting i.e 2Mb internet and internal phone for an extra €2 a month?

I haven’t heard anything about this from my Spanish garden president, looks like a good deal to me. Why are we all not being made aware of these options.

Phil

Is it  2 or 8 euro's per month extra? Our President hasn't made contact about this either but we have seen the details on naranjos1 info.

This was copied from CDA Services;

La Torre and La Isla Condado have already negociated within their community fees to have every apartment fitted with telephones for internal calls and emergency service, 2mg high speed internet connection and 300 Television channels. This option which has been voted and accepted on La Torre and La Isla Condado has cost the owners 8 Euros per month. Jardins and Naranjos now have this option available to them for an additional 2 Euros per month on the community fees.

If this is definately on offer then surely its an absolute bargain

The option to include internal phones and 2MB internet in every property would add approximately €2 a month to your community charge.  There are other options that would reduce the telecoms bill which would mean the the community fees would not have to raise this year, which seems to be the main concern of the majority of the presidents and Mileniun.  

It is being decided by a vote of presidents, some have decided to canvass the owners to seek their opinion whilst others have not and have just voted on what they believe is the best option.  At the end of the day you the owners voted your garden president in, they are there to represent your views, so if you have an opinion you should contact them ( and mileniun ) to express it.

Is it possible to have this issue as an agenda item at the AGM ?

Why are Milleniun not contacting all owners about this. I would presume most of the owners don't read the various forums.  If you pay your community fees you should be consulted about any proposed changes to them.

Oh and not all gardens and penthouses have a president therefore all owners can't rely on getting information from a president.

The telecoms is simply the renegotiation  of an existing contract with an existing supplier, they have offered a number of different service levels for this year all at different prices and all offering different maintenance levels.  These types of decision are made by the presidents as they are the elected representatives of their level 3 communities.  You all elect people in your own countries but you would not expect a referendum on every issue.  Every president should then vote for what they believe is in the best interests of the community and it's owners.  Some presidents include the owners in this decision process, whilst other do not. 

Every garden and penthouse has a presidents as that is a legal requirement.  In a small number of cases there were no volunteers last year so a owner was simply nominated as the president.  Some of those nominated have embraced  the position and become active within the community and kept their owners well informed but others have not and have taken no part.

If you are unhappy with the level of representation you are receiving then now is your opportunity to do something about it.  

The AGM and the election of the level 3 presidents is 3 weeks away, already a number of volunteers have come forward to stand for election.  You should ensure that you vote for the right person, if you are unhappy with the current president then stand your self of try to find another owners that you trust you is willing to do so. The situation we are in now with nominated presidents that take no part in community affairs occurred last year as no owners stepped forward to represent their level 3, don't let that happen again this year.

The list of people that have declared that they are standing this year can be found on the community website http://cdagr.wordpress.com/contacts/2011-president-nominations/  or here on EOS at http://www.eyeonspain.com/community-forum/25212/2011-presidents.aspx

david

 David,

That is why the presidents should contact the owners to solicit their opinion before voting.  As a matter of principle I would not vote on an option to provide additional facilities that not everyone would want if they increased the community fees, even if we are talking about less than €2 a month without getting the view of my owners.  Personally I would love internet in my apartment at such a low cost, but as you say others may not which is why I have asked the owners in my garden to give me their opinion.

So, rather than post here where your voice is not heard, email you president - get the full facts,  then give your president your view.

If this does get approved (hope so) when would it be up and running.

I only spend about 1 week a year at Condado, but dont mind paying 24 Euros per annum for broadband.

 Hi Darren,

Then make sure you contact your president and give him your views.  The decision will be made by a majority vote, so made your voice heard.    Would think it would be available in June after the budget has been approved in the AGM, I believe is it available now on La Isla.

Hi!

I have searched but can´t find any contactinformation to our president. We live on Naranjos 2. Anyone know where to find it?

Kindly

/Thomas

The contact info of the presidents is on the community website, www.cdagr.eu, the contact address for N2 is Pres.N2@cdagr.eu

All presidents can be contacted on an address in that format i.e

For the Jardines - Pres.Jx@cdagr.eu where x is the garden number i.e Pres.J2 for Jardine 2 Pres.J12 for Jardine 12

For the Naranjos - Pres.Nx@cdagr.eu where x is the garden number i.e Pres.N2 for Jardine 2 Pres.N7 for Jardine 7

For the Penthouses - Pres.Px@cdagr.eu where x is the block number i.e Pres.P2 for block 2 Pres.P16 for block 16

Are the options detailed anywhere?
I have emailed my president to give my views, but I wouldn't mind seeing what exact service we would actually receive in terms of the internet. ie.....

Is there a cap on data?
Can the owner supply their own router or do we have to "purchase" one from the supplier?

It would be great to get this approved and installed before the summer!

Hi Mageed,

if you dont feel as if your  block is well  represented why don't you stand as president of your block and that way you will find out exactly what is happening.  My hubby if voted for is about to start his second year as president of our block and he  does it all from his iphone in the uk and has never attended an AGM ever. You do not need to be resident just being able to email is sufficent.

My Garden president (Jeremy Pitkin) emailed me to get my opinion.  I am happy to spend the small amount as the benefits far outweigh the cost I think - even though I am only there a few weeks a year my friends and family use it a fair bit.  Phil is correct in saying that the garden presidents should email all their residents to canvass opinion before voting.  I will probably save the money by just using the internal phone alone as I always seem to be phoning my CDA mates from my UK phone to arrange that day's activities whilst I am over.

I received the details from my garden president (J13) and although not a resident the deal looks good.

It would not be practical to have an opt in arrangment as this would make the community fees a difficult exercise.  As different services are added you could have dozens of varying amounts.  Even with this option do you allow a total opt out/in, only TV, TV and phone, phone and broadband, only broadband, etc etc

My only concern mirrors andypin's.  Its the detail on the broadband.  Who supplies the routers etc, is there any additional usage charges, caps on usage etc.  As a holiday visitor who struggles using a dongle to access the web I would find it useful to have broadband and would pay the €2 or €5 to have that and the phone. 

Although I was taken aback when I saw the total cost of the package for all the apartments.