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17 Dec 2011 11:15 AM by richclarkee Star rating in San Juan de los Terr.... 125 forum posts Send private message

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Normally the price is calculated by square meters. plot/house. Any unsold are the responsibilty of the owner ie builder.



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20 Dec 2011 10:38 AM by domggg Star rating. 24 forum posts Send private message

 Enclosed are my notes from the second comunidad meeting on 19/12/2011 which was called by Yolanda from Peinsa who is Patricia's boss.

She stated that the banks who have loaned Peinsa the money to build Calas del Pinar were paying staff.  In addition, Peinsa / banks had no alternative agendas or bad intentions for our comunidad & they only wanted to get the comunidad established on firm foundations. Banco Popular is the main lending bank & other banks have less involvement in CDP.  All Spanish banks have problems with unsold housing.
 
Points were made regarding the difference in costs of management / services from Murcia & Almeria, with Almeria being the cheaper price.
 
Questions were raised on when mains electricity would be available. This was answered by stating there were people who had reserved houses in CDP who were unwilling to complete on house purchase before mains was electricity was available & it was Peinsa / banks priority to make available .
 
It was stated that the Phase 1 garden areas are only available to phase 1 residents & they would pay for the maintance of gardens.
 
There were lots of discussions around the management company & it was stated the management company could be replaced by comunidad if they were not giving a good service or value for money.

Questions were raised on when Pulpi council would be taking responsibly for garden areas. This was answered by saying that the council were mindful of budgets & it would be at their convenience.
 
Another point was raised on if people did not pay their comunidad on time a fine for late payment could be charged, €50 or €100.  Another suggestion was the payment of comunidad by residents could be done monthly.
 
Another proposal was for one company be selected to look after pools, gardens etc rather than set up contracts with 2 or 3 different companies.
 
Regarding the quotes for alternative management companies, 3x further quotes were received to compare with original proposal from Pentágono. It was stated we would not select the cheapest quote but the best value for money whilst keeping the maintained areas to a high standard.
 
It was suggested to hold another AGM for comunidad in the second week in January which would be organised by 'an administrator' . At this meeting the various proposals for a management company could be discussed & hopefully one selected.  Also the budget for the year would be voted for & president & officers elected.
 
The meeting was calmer than first, hopefully people are coming to terms with the fact that the comunidad will be set up & how to get the best value from proceedings.
 
Dominic

 




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01 Feb 2012 8:25 PM by domggg Star rating. 24 forum posts Send private message

 Hi All

 
I have received an email regarding the next meeting of residents association 'Comunidad'. As per previous meeting you should receive an invitation letter in the post.
 
BR.
 
Dominic
 

 
Dear owners,

I am pleased to call you to the next AGE for the Houseowners' Association "Calas del Pinar R1R2" which will be held on February 13th at 16:00h in Centro Cultural "El Cuartel" in San Juan de los Terreros.
Please find attached the calling, Minute of the last AGE as well as a Proxy Vote form to fill in in case you are not able to attend to this meeting.

Please accept our apology for giving you notice with such little time in advance, but we consider it is extremely urgent to hold this meeting in order the Community would hire the basic services to run it properly.

Please, do not hesitate to contact us if any doubt may arise.

Kind regards
Inés Ocejo



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13 Feb 2012 11:28 PM by domggg Star rating. 24 forum posts Send private message

 Hi all


My notes from meeting enclosed.


Dominic

 

Meeting was held in the Cartel (community centre in Terreros). Meeting was first spoken in Spanish & secondly in English.

Attending  were;


Innes - Administrator

DANIEL PALAZÓN FERNÁNDEZ – president from Peinsa

Patricia Garcia – Peinsa

Spanish, English & Dutch residents.


Meeting started at 5.20 pm


First item on agenda was proposed budget – this was rejected by most residents in room.


Second item was election of president & vice president.  A vote was taken & the following people elected;


President                    Jesus Pelegrin Plaza

Vice president             Francisco Romero

Committee (Vocal)       Bartolome Avellan, & Dominic Grimoldby


Election of Administrators for Comunidad;

Five companies were proposed with the similar levels of services. Two companies (Romera & Clemente) had representatives at meeting & they gave a small summary of their services.  Rather than go through each company in detail, the costs were placed on a whiteboard & votes cast, one per household + proxy votes. Costs were for running comunidad per month & without IVA at 18%.


Company        Location          Cost     Votes

Romera            Aguilas             € 347     19

Clemente         Lorca                € 579       0

Comunalia       Aguilas              € 330     21

Dolores            Aguilas             € 417       0

Mintor              Torres Cotilas    € 417       0


Comunalia  were  chosen as the new management company.  E-mail: comunalia@hotmail.com


Third ítem on agenda, the comunidad rules were briefly discussed & it was decided to leave for new administrators to review at next meeting.


At this point in time the new president gave a small presentation in which he stated he was pleased to be representing the residents & he would endeavour to run the comunidad properly.


The meeting now moved onto AOB.


It was stated that the comunidad was formed in 2008 & that Peinsa had paid for all services up to today. Also that Peinsa would pay for the ‘old’ Pentagono management company costs which included distributing the minutes from today’s meeting.


A question of when the electricity supply from Endesa would be available. The latest date, assuming no other problems was March 2012.


Another question on if residents were to receive individual habititacion licences was raised. It was stated the council had only issued one licence for Phase 1, 2 & 3. If Endesa requested individual licences before connecting electricity, the council would have to provide.


Following on from above when electricity sub-station was completed, the clause requiring its installation on habitacion licences would need to be removed.


It was asked if there was any depts. on the comunidad bank account. It was stated there were no outstanding depts.


The new management company would propose a new budget & rules. Also they would hold another meeting in March 2012.


Meeting finished at 6.21 pm.




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