Community and Entidad AGMs

Thanks for that Pommers - and yes, I have calmed down after a good night's sleep.

Best wishes

Sandra

Pommers is right about the muddle.  It would appear that the whole of one community have been listed as debtors when in fact as I understand it they only have one debtor but had set up a different payment system.

 Lots of new information re TV, Internet & Phones, Coefficients Housing etc on Entidad website http://eeuuconservacionrodagolf.com 

contact them for access if you an owner

Late in the day maybe but since Resortalia have taken over this is the first time so much info has been made available to owners

Hiya  Hugh_man

Not being thick but have been on the site and can't find it!  Can you help please.............! 

 Some under budget tab and some under information, not the most user friendly site but I think you have to search around

Unfortunately FAQs are now appearing in Spanish (even on the English site)

Have emailed Resortalia to get them to change it asap

The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain
 

Apologies - errant husband messing on system - please disregard this post¡

According to information advised by the President of Phase 1, if you have not paid your current year's community fees up to the end of June 2012  as invoiced by the administrators in January 2012 then you cannot vote at the AGM on 13th April.   This AGM is to approve, amongst other things, the fees for 2012.

I am told that it is in the Byelaws that debtors cannot vote and that you are considered a debtor if you haven't paid this year's (2012)  fees up to the end of June in full as per the invoice sent out by Resortalia in January 2012  The fact that you have paid your fees historically in full by monthly instalments  and continue to do so means nothing apparently in terms of being able to vote at the AGM on April 13th, 2012.

Does anyone else have the same experience as us and if so what is your view?

Sandra

You know my feelings Sandra - but you're not going to get the President or Resortalia for that matter to back down!

Hi Pommers

Yes I do agree but in my very very humble opion they would have been better off last year and the year before going after those historic debtors who owe the community thousands of euros - did you see the size of the debt mountain on P11 in the financial report- it is huge. 

I hope to have a reasonable conversation at the AGM with the new administrators and the incoming President about a reasonable and pragmatic way to proceed for the future i.e. a way to proceed without upsetting all those loyal and decent people who have supported the community financially over the last 5 years.  Monthly payments would seem to me to be a reasonable way to proceed - this gives cashflow to the community - after all I would imagine that most of the suppliers also invoice on a monthly basis and not in 6 monthly tranches.

Sandra

 I agree, lack of action especially over the last two years has made the situation critical.

Despite each Communit yand the Entity voting to take strong action against debtors it would seem the either the then Administrator thought it too much trouble or the then Presidents took their fingers off the pulse and did not keep on the case.

Various meetings were held with Kettlewell to pursue UK debtors but how much action or success actually ocurred and perhaps it would be interesting to note just how many cases were taken out in Spanish Courts, placing a charge on the properties concerned owned by serial debtors.

Rumour has it that large numbers of apartments owned by one long term debtor may possibly have been sold for a song. Was the new buyer forced by the sytem into clearing the debts supposedly atteched to those properties as per Spanish Law.

Maybe these questions should be asked at AGMs, especially as it would seem these properties maybe being offered on very cheap long term rates, which presumably could be construed as unfair competition.

Alledgedly..................