New Club House

Dear All

I am currently out at Condado and to day when we drove past the top part of the Club House has been errected, this has been placed on an elevated position so one will get good views of the 1st Tee and fairway and we should be able to view players coming up the 9th and the 18th to the left hand side.

The facade cladding and glazzing panels need to be re placed and from the materials, including decorative large stones that surround the site I am guessing that they intend to put some effort into the imediated surrounding landscape.

I for one and very pleased with this new development.

Me too- I think we are lucky to get anything. How much better it will be to have all the golf services down at the course.

Giles

For give me for not being quite as pleased as you and other owners , because my appartment is behind the new club house and this morning when i went on my patio to view the lovely views let me say it was quite a shock , i could not understand why they positioned this ugly glass porta cabin right in front of penthouse 6 and 7 when ther was enough room to the side not blocking anybodys view and it wouldn't be in the way of any further building of main clubhouse ,, but to be honest i went inside for a sneeky view and i must say that when it is finished we are going to have great views of the first hole , driving range and also the putting green ,it s another step forward for condado , its just going to take me a bit longer to get used to it ,  so when all golfers and owners visit our new club house bear in mind our sacrifice for the cause ,   lol

Dave

Been over to have a look this morning at the new clubhouse and I must say it was the first thing my wife said was about the views of the penthouses that would be affected. Not too bad on the top two floors but the lower ones, not so good. However, the installation looks pretty serious and there is much more earth moving and infrastructure work than you would think with simply moving a tin shed.

It will be good and will make a lot of difference to the golfers and make the prospects of tournament usage much more likely. In terms of a bar then I agree there seems to be little point in having a bar in a green house and the facilities now on offer at the Clover and the sports bar are much more suitable than the thought of having a warm beer in a green house in the height of summer. One thing for sure the air con will have to be pretty good.

The course looks good but the lake nearest the Al Kasar is empty, wonder what is going there?
Jon Faulkner

This building is bigger than you first think. I had a good look at  both the preparation and dismantling aspects while we were over last week. Looking at the amount of groundworks going on around by the first tee, I think we might get a nice patio area and landscaping which would be great. I have to disagree with you comments on the drinks situation Jon - they have fridges over there you know !!! The building is substantial enough to make one of the enclosed rooms a 'cellar' for beer kegs. There is also quite a sizeable open viewing platform incorporated on the first floor and I would have though a major benefit of this would be sitting with a coffee or whatever your chosen refreshment may be looking out over the course to the mountains beyond.

On the subject of the lake, it is being fully drained to get rid of an influx of algai. I had a walk round there as well one evening and my oh my, it was a profitable little outing - replenishing my stocks of pro-V 1's by considerable numbers .

Has no one seen post there will be no bar? Just a vending machine.

Sorry John I cannot agree with you about your comments ref: no bar.   I for one have been fully suppotive of the use of the old sales office for use as a Temp clubhouse, on the grounds of something is better than nothing, and with the site being different to the permamanent clubhouse site - has no impact on any building works in the long term (Years away).   

I cannot see the purpose of it.  Surley the whole idea behind a clubhouse, is to enjoy a beer and/or snack post round adjacent to the course - not troop all the way to the bloody clover or sports bar.  This structure is ceratinley big enough, and yes stuck inside would be a nightmare without aircon, but with the upstairs veranda & some decent decking outside there would be no need to drink inside.    The proposal is a good one - but it needs a bar.

I think the CdA Golf society, Level 1 & 2 Presidents should be campaigning like mad to get this decision reviewed.  There seems to be plenty of mtg's with IRM, Global Golf etc but with little impact. A clubhouse with out a bar is unheralded. I can't help sniffiing a rat that maybe some of our more inflential people on CdA, perhaps do not want to huff their mates who run the Clover / Sports Bar by pushing for a 3rd bar in the clubhouse..?   But sureley they all compliment each other.

This is big issue for us.......that clubhouse needs a bar - end of & all efforts should be made to campaign with IRM to change their current stand

Skell

A clubhouse needs a bar and that was a bit of silly thing to say John. If we want tournaments and societies to play here a bar is a must I'm afraid.

 Bit of a 'u 'turn BFR you lambasted me for daring to suggest we have another commercial outlel on CDA yet 24hrs later you appear to have changed your mind, it certainley seemed to make good sense to me to include facilities comenserate with one of the best courses in Spain to provide the most basic most players of the great game of golf require ' The 19th hole '

I'm shocked!!

The temporary club house at Hacienda Riquelme which was an old wood shack affair had full bar facillities prior to them having the the Hacienda renovated. It worked perfectly well and I agree with Nick really there's no real point to having it if we're not going to be able to sit down and be able to drown our sorrows and discuss what could of been (might be speaking for myself there a bit!!).

Who really is going to want to hang around there with a tin of coke. Visitors will not be impressed if they can't get a beer or cafe con leche served nicley and not from a poxy machine. If we are to seriously try and promote our wonderful  course  and try to get a few tournaments back we can't do it Mickey Mouse style, it has to be done properly surley.

Who is responsible for the decision on the bar facillities?

A perplexed

Jay

 

On the summer holiday there's a possibility for kids to follow a Golf camp Mo-Fr 2 hours lessons. So 10 hrs lessons for 100 Euro's.

Good Morning

I know Phil Tann tends to visits these threads, maybe as a level 1 President he could update us with any developments of the isuues conserning is there going to be a bar or is there not!

MGK are you drunk?  I have not changed my mind. If you can go back and read my thread again I stated that IRM have no interest in opening commercial facilities themselves on the resort. I have never once suggested we do NOT need another bar on the resort. I merely stated they would offer it out to external parties for Lease. Like I said who do you think runs the other commercial outlets on the resort, CERTAINLY NOT IRM.

Who started the rumour that there would be no bar!! I would bet 50 quid that there will be a bar and refreshments set up, you might find that they are trying to find someone to run the refreshments etc, so no actual decision yet. Best bet is to stop panicing and wait and see

There may not be a far at first but I'm confident someone would want to open one. I am also confident that IRM would have no qualms with this.

In a meeting I had with IRM in January they said there would be a bar, in fact three people had already tendered to run it. In April the golf society held a meeting with global golf and were told there would only be a vending machine, now whatever that is temporary or not I don't know. I have contacted IRM and asked them to clarify and also pointed out the importance of having a bar. I'll be having another meeting with them in the next week so will chase it up then.

It is essential, I don't see why they wouldn't have an external company in like they have done with the other outlets.

Glad to see your post Phil.  I think you are a very key guy here & particulalry in this situation.   I think you can feel the empathy & logic for the bar from this thread.   We really do need to push hard for this, without it, I agree, the remp construction is a greenhouse.  With  a bar, we will make the very best of it & it compliment what is already in existance on Condado.

Has anyone actually ever heard of a Golf Clubhouse anywhere in the world, without a bar...? Hopefully Andy & BFR are correct, & we are just suffering some mis-information, but lets try & get it confirmed, rather than the normal let's wait & see.  Proactive rather than Reactive

Good Luck

Cheers

Nick

Hi Nick,

Actually, there is one not too far from your home in the UK. Yes, High Throston golf course in Hartlepool holds the distinction of probably being one of the only established ( for about 10 years) golf courses in the country that does not have a bar. This though, is due to a dispute with the landowner and the local 'businessman' that was meant to run the facilities. His intentions to operate the place as a 'country club' with late licensing hours ended up with a long drawn out legal wrangle which to the best on my knowledge still exists to this day. In the meantime, there is a superb clubhouse facility with a wonderfull upper tier patio overlooking the fairways locked up & wasted. The interim arrangement in a cafe area in the pro shop has a few tables & chairs and hot & cold drinks machines.

Net result....................hardly anyone stays there following a round for a good 'conflab' as there is absoloutly no atmosphere and heads off to the nearest boozer to give them their business. Google it and look at arial shot to see what a criminal waste of the potential this is.  http://www.ukgolfguide.com/high-throston-golf-club

There is a massive housing catchment nearby (of which I will soon be part of - self building a property within 100 yards) which would provide loads & loads of foot-fall, not just for the golf.

Moral of the tale here is that there are similarities with the proposal for Condado so for heaven's sake put in all the effort needed here up front and give someone the opportunity to run a profitable venture, at the same time giving us our long awaited facility with the necessary basic staple ingredients in place.

 

 

This message was last edited by Billbo on 23/05/2012.

This message was last edited by Billbo on 23/05/2012.

If there isnt going to be a bar, has anoyone thought about the possibility that it may be a good idea if the Condado Club moves. if this is possible.

Without the temp club house serving beer and bar food, its just going to gather dust and stick out like a sore thumb and not to mention a waste of money that could be spent else where on the resort

may be a stupid question, but is it even going to have air con?