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Don't know about WIND..talker but you certainly spout a basua of hot air.
Have no idea what planet you are on but Waitrose IS a supermarket and M & S have large supermarkets within their stores.
As you so succinctly posted earlier..."keep your eyes and ears open" ....... perhaps it is time you heeded your own advice.
Will leave last words to you as it suits your mentality.
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..."the reason for this was down to taking a long time to finish my dinosaur chicken leg" ...so, it is true - you are what you eat!!! 
(sorry, some of the comments are way over my head)
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You can try all you want with the insulating silly comments..but it still doesn't change the fact that Spain adds up to a very expensive place for a Retired Brit to live in full time.. especially when you are on a limited income ...that is certainly not going to rise inline the general prices in Spain over the coming years..your basic UK pension for instance is gear up for living in the UK ..this state pension can be topped up with other DSS benifts like free council tax help with electric/ gas and water Bills/ free public transport pass / free disable cars / free dental care and free access to the best NHS system in the world topped up with cheap food and so forth ...just ask one of the 6.5 million EU citizens that have applied to become UK residents and Ian sure they will put you right.
This message was last edited by windtalker on 07/07/2021.
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I am not convinced that Spain prices are more expensive than the UK. But the UK must have some special attraction to foreigners who are prepared to risk life and limb to get their even though they have journeyed through Spain and France. Perhaps it’s the British climate.
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You have to be joking Windtaker - after your description of me as some kind of aging Andy Capp! None of it to be taken too seriously.
You've clearly got a bee in your bonnet on living costs in Spain - the problem is that if I were to agree with you then we would both be wrong.
For me, if by stretching the imagination you were right, I'd still be very fond of the place and nothing would change.
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Acer..so the Spanish government gives the equivalent in DSS benifts...that I have quoted in my post ...as far I know a UK pensioner gets absolutely nothing from the Spanish government .. unless the UK government gives them the money to do so ...like the €4,800 bill the British tax payers pay towards each and every British OAP health care in Spain...I don't have a bee in my bonnet as you put it ..the same as I have not let the cheap Spanish wine or sun go to my head I am a total realist just like the many British citizens that ar now choosing Portugal to retire to due to lower Taxes and the fact the the Portuguese government are allowing you to stay basically as long as you like with only a proof of income of €9,000 you must purchase a property to qualify ...this is next to nothing when you consider the Spanish are asking for proof of yearly income of €26,000 per person or €31,000 per couple.
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It could be possible that at €4,800 per British OAP Spain is on a good earner. I wonder how much the UK receives from other countries throughout the world for each non UK national OAP living in the UK.
Is it also possible that taxes in the UK, direct and indirect, are partly used to fund residents who have never paid UK taxes?
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Prior to January 21..the UK received nothing for health care from EU member states including Spain for their citizens health care whilst living in the UK... according to the EU the UK had to treat all EU citizens the same as they would treat a UK citizen ..as you know you don't need to work in the UK and you can claim DSS benifts to support yourself ...this was widely abused by EU citizens coming to the UK ..all they needed to do was sign on the dole for 3 months without taking a job during the first 3 months they did not get and DSS benifts ..but the UK DSS paid the N.I stamp ..after 3 months with the 3 months N.I contribute this qualified the EU citizen to claim housing / DSS benifts and everything else that a UK citizen was entitled to ...this sounds crazy but it was true David Cameron went to Brussels pre BREXIT to have this change ..but Brussels refused saying any member state must treat a EU citizen the same as their own .... Hence the BREXIT... political parties like the Labour party and the Lib Dems tried to keep this quite but failed due to UKIP blowing the whistle.
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Absolute out and out rubbish. UK received the same amount for EU citizens under the S1 scheme as any other EU nation. Pensioners and certain disablities, the only thing the S1 covers, is exactly the same and has remained so under the Withdrawal Agreement. UK could also claim for treatment under the EHIC but UK systems were so bad (remember, I worked for them for a long time) that they failed to do so. Doctors complaining they weren't tax collectors etc.
Hospitals got better at it but GPs had absolutely no idea.
Same with your rubbish about Portugal saying they take Brits with only 9k a year. No they dont' They said they would approach the EU for discussions but when they were told they'd have to do it for all third countries they body swerved it. So another load of made up rubbish.
Anyway, the NHS the best in the world? Tried getting a GP or hospital appointment in the last 18 months? You obviously haven't used the Spanish NHS but I have and find it brilliant. I had some problems with gallstones which was affecting my liver functions. Referred by a GP and seen by a specialist at Torrvieja hospital within a week. Taken in and treated (in a brilliant private room with en suite and towels etc) while they flushed out my liver. Then a few weeks wait for an endoscopy to remove a stone in my bile duct which was blocking my liver. 3 weeks to recover and then take in for micro surgery to have my gall bladder removed. All within 3 months. Our non res neighbour here has the same problem and has been waiting nearly 3 years. Sorry, I don't think the UK NHS is the best in the world.
Maybe the Spanish pensioners don't get credits, allowances and so on but that could be due to the fact that the Spanish pension is 3 times the UK one. The UK credits are simply to make up the shortfall. Oh, and they get free bus passes in cities as well. Pointless having free TV licences when there isn't one here anyway.
Plus the made up figure of UK paying 4,800 a year for for healthcare for those with an S1. It's £3,200 and UK gets that for EU people with the S1 as well.
Plus this was about cost of living in Spain from someone from Finland. They're probably happy about the cheap baked beans which nobody in the world eats except the Brits and Finns for some reason.
Stop making things up that you know nothing about. It makes you look incredibly stupid and xenophobic.
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Oh, and I might remind you of the idiocy Windtalker comes out with. He looks at things on the internet and thinks he is well informed.
Perhaps the bit when he was comparing Camposol (where he used to live) with Ciudad Quesada (where we no live after being in the Villamartin area and Los Altos where he now lives) and stating publically on here that Quesada was full of "roaming gangs" and thieves. Only when it was pointed out that the Ciudad Quesada that he was talking about happened to be in Costa Rica or Honduras did he actually shut up for a while.
He makes things up. That's Windtalker.
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Yes you are right Mariedave ..I make things up about mass uncontrollable migration from the EU .6.5 million to be precise ...All the people that voted to leave the EU made things up just like me that's why we left the EU it was all a big all lie was it not...we are not talking about a few pensioners using a S1 from the EU we are referring to 6.5 million EU citizens live in the UK 3.2 million of them that the UK government didn't even know where in the UK due to so called undocumented freedom of movement.
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So it was all about those nasty furrin people coming in to the UK then?
Glad you've shown your true colours.
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Mariedave ..the BREXIT was about taking back control of our own country and to protect the NHS /DSS/ Council Housing / Pensions that was put in place to accommodate the UK population ..it wasn't put in place to cater for 445 million people from the EU to claim off every country thats a member of the EU has undesirables that don't want to work and prefer a life of crime.this will be the down fall of the EU if the EU doesn't address the situation ..what the EU need is a universal social security system ..and member state should have the right to refuse entry to undesirables you can't have millions of people with the right to come in to your country and claim DSS benifts and so forth ...I have always said people from the EU are welcome to come to the UK but if they don't want to work then the EU country they came from should pay the DSS bill...not the British Tax payers... personally I couldn't give a toss what you think about me ..I am certainly not racially motivated I am a realist if you can see the EU for what it is then you must have something wrong with you...I think you must be living in a bubble as far as crime goes in your area have a look at ( Talk Quesada ) on the net sleep tight... please don't try and make me out as a fool I know the difference between south America and southern Spain.
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Just have to interject at this point to mention the recent news of 3 cash machines being wrenched from walls at Camposol by a gang of theives. Seen the evidence . The destruction was brutal. Strange how that has failed to be mentioned .
Hoping they are not part of the same marauding gang supposedly causing havoc 50km north in Quesada ..lol
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Floella the cash machine has been stolen from Camposol no fewer than 5 time's over the years..I don't see why you would post this news...as I sold my property on Camposol 2 years back and haven't been to the place since...I now have a Villa in Los Balconies Costa Blanca which is around 100klm from Camposol...the criminal gang's that carryout these crime's don't live on Camposol ... Camposol is full of OAPs most of them need Zimmer Frames to get around so I don't think the residents of Camposol are up to robbing cash machines..the last gang they caught came from Valencia .
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You can try all you want with the insulating silly comments..but it still doesn't change the fact that Spain adds up to a very expensive place for a Retired Brit to live in full time.. especially when you are on a limited income ...that is certainly not going to rise inline the general prices in Spain over the coming years..your basic UK pension for instance is gear up for living in the UK ..this state pension can be topped up with other DSS benefits like free council tax help with electric/ gas and water Bills/ free public transport pass / free disable cars / free dental care and free access to the best NHS system in the world topped up with cheap food and so forth ...just ask one of the 6.5 million EU citizens that have applied to become UK residents and Ian sure they will put you right.
*******Surely the people spoken about here are not the average Brit that are likely to go live in SPAIN, as for the UK pension being topped up, you want to try for that one because it seems only the special ones get these payments, you know the one's, no spare cash, but smoke, large phone deals, SKY TV, etc, as for our NHS being good, thats the best joke for a long time, even before the virus it was getting to be rubbish, Mrs B had a tummy upset so went to her doctor here, basically go get medication from the chemist, it came back while in Spain, went into the Torrvieja hospital, seen almost straight away, then with a doctor within an hour or two, even put her on a drip, long examination, medication about 8€ no problems since. I have property in Spain, I visit as and when, all I can say about the cost of living in SPAIN is it knocks spots of the UK prices, my local petrol station for Diesel was down to 1.16 a ltr, 1st lockdown, slowly gone up, yesterday it was 1.35.99 ltr, this morning as I passed 1.37.99. I have friends in Spain on UK pensions and they are not struggling with anything, no problems going out to eat which they did struggle here to do thanks to the high cost of eating out.
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Baz 1946 don't forget your trip to the hospital was paid for by the UK tax payers..as for petrol and Diesel at the beginning of the pandemic it went down to less than £1 due to the fact that you couldn't go anywhere...the price at this moment has gone back up to £1,35 for petrol and £1.38 per ltr for diesel..so when you take in the fact that UK wage's are far higher than Spanish wage's this makes running a car in Spain very expensive ..the UK minimum wage is around £9 per hour ..= €10.50 try getting a Spanish Cafe owner to pay the equivalent €10 .50 per hour serving tea and coffee .we are talking about the UK government minimum wage that very very due UK employers acutely offer ..my local ASDA is looking for shelf stackers and till operators and they are paying £11 per hour = €12 per hour try getting that wage working in the likes of Consum and so forth in Spain.
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Well I never did see Diesel at less then £1, lowest as I said 1.16.99, and sure many never went to far, a couple of weeks ago it was reported on the TV and media that fuel had risen due to the fact that hardly anyone is going anywhere, strange that, because everywhere I go now it's taking me just under twice as long due to traffic, the fuel price has risen thanks to the oil companies upping the price because now everyone is going out so they are cashing in.
Yes the Hospital cost was paid by the UK tax payer, as agreed by the rules set out when in the EU...I am a UK tax payer, Mrs B is also, as I have 3 business's you really don't want to see my tax bills, even I don't want to see them. Well as Diesel is cheaper in Spain where is the comparison to running a car in the UK to Spain? Wages are always cheaper in another country due to the lower cost of living, and many decent hard working people, here, are having a struggle on the so called high UK wages. You might get £10 per hour in Mc Donald's but you will probably only do 10 / 20 hours a week...So I am led to believe.
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Basically it is a case of living where you can afford and accepting that lifestyle. For British nationals the UK usually offers more generous state benefits than other countries, but this has caused the UK to be labelled ‘’benefits paradise’’ with little scrutiny of any Tom, Dick or Harry no matter where they come from. It does seem that all UK governments have just bled the taxpayer as an easy way to fund this policy.
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